Why Are Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 OsLoader.exe Symbols No Longer Available?

Good day, fine OSR Online folks!

I’ve been using http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols for at least a couple of years now as a symbol server with the Debugging Tools for Windows. Recently I was surprised when the .PDB files for OsLoader.exe were no longer available for download. I believe that they used to be. By contrast, the .PDB for Notepad.exe is still available. I am discussing the fine Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 operating systems, here.

Does anyone happen to know why (or if) they disappeared, or if they archived somewhere else?

Please and thank you!

How are you determining that they are not available? I don’t have an XP
system in front of me to try this at the moment, but turn on noisy symbol
loading (!sym noisy) and post the output during the failure here.

-scott
OSR

wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…

Good day, fine OSR Online folks!

I’ve been using http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols for at least a
couple of years now as a symbol server with the Debugging Tools for Windows.
Recently I was surprised when the .PDB files for OsLoader.exe were no longer
available for download. I believe that they used to be. By contrast, the
.PDB for Notepad.exe is still available. I am discussing the fine Windows
XP and Windows Server 2003 operating systems, here.

Does anyone happen to know why (or if) they disappeared, or if they archived
somewhere else?

Please and thank you!

Ok, sorry for the delay… Noisy output yields:

0:000> .reload /f @“C:\docume~1\me\desktop\osloader.exe”
SYMSRV:
c:\tmp\osloader.pdb\DC7F8535EB6345E799311BAEB7F2D6241\osloader.pdb not found
SYMSRV:
http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols/osloader.pdb/DC7F8535EB6345E79931
1BAEB7F2D6241/osloader.pdb not found
DBGHELP: C:\docume~1\me\desktop\osloader.pdb - file not found
DBGHELP: osloader.pdb - file not found
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols
for C:\docume~1\me\desktop\osloader.exe -
DBGHELP: osloader - export symbols

It might be worth noting that this is an OSLoader with version 5.1.2600.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158).

  • Shao Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Scott Noone
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 09:50
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] Why Are Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 OsLoader.exe
Symbols No Longer Available?

How are you determining that they are not available? I don’t have an XP
system in front of me to try this at the moment, but turn on noisy symbol
loading (!sym noisy) and post the output during the failure here.

-scott
OSR

wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…

Good day, fine OSR Online folks!

I’ve been using http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols for at least a
couple of years now as a symbol server with the Debugging Tools for Windows.

Recently I was surprised when the .PDB files for OsLoader.exe were no longer

available for download. I believe that they used to be. By contrast, the
.PDB for Notepad.exe is still available. I am discussing the fine Windows
XP and Windows Server 2003 operating systems, here.

Does anyone happen to know why (or if) they disappeared, or if they archived

somewhere else?

Please and thank you!


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Definitely appears to be simply missing from the symbol server. Given that
this is XP SP2, I would say that you have absolutely zero chance of this
getting fixed.

However, it does appear as though the correct PDB is provided in the symbol
pack:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463028.aspx

0:000> lmv mosloader
start end module name
00400000 00477000 OSLOADER (pdb symbols)
f:\symbols\xp\exe\osloader.pdb
Loaded symbol image file: OSLOADER.EXE
Mapped memory image file: E:\test\OSLOADER.EXE
Image path: E:\test\OSLOADER.EXE
Image name: OSLOADER.EXE
Timestamp: Wed Aug 04 01:59:25 2004 (41107B3D)
CheckSum: 000441CB
ImageSize: 00077000
File version: 5.1.2600.2180
Product version: 5.1.2600.2180
File flags: 0 (Mask 3F)
File OS: 40004 NT Win32
File type: 1.0 App
File date: 00000000.00000000
Translations: 0409.04b0
CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
InternalName: osloader.exe
OriginalFilename: osloader.exe
ProductVersion: 5.1.2600.2180
FileVersion: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
FileDescription: Boot Loader
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

-scott
OSR

“Shao Miller” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…

Ok, sorry for the delay… Noisy output yields:

0:000> .reload /f @“C:\docume~1\me\desktop\osloader.exe”
SYMSRV:
c:\tmp\osloader.pdb\DC7F8535EB6345E799311BAEB7F2D6241\osloader.pdb not found
SYMSRV:
http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols/osloader.pdb/DC7F8535EB6345E79931
1BAEB7F2D6241/osloader.pdb not found
DBGHELP: C:\docume~1\me\desktop\osloader.pdb - file not found
DBGHELP: osloader.pdb - file not found
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols
for C:\docume~1\me\desktop\osloader.exe -
DBGHELP: osloader - export symbols

It might be worth noting that this is an OSLoader with version 5.1.2600.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158).

  • Shao Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Scott Noone
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 09:50
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] Why Are Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 OsLoader.exe
Symbols No Longer Available?

How are you determining that they are not available? I don’t have an XP
system in front of me to try this at the moment, but turn on noisy symbol
loading (!sym noisy) and post the output during the failure here.

-scott
OSR

wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…

Good day, fine OSR Online folks!

I’ve been using http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols for at least a
couple of years now as a symbol server with the Debugging Tools for Windows.

Recently I was surprised when the .PDB files for OsLoader.exe were no longer

available for download. I believe that they used to be. By contrast, the
.PDB for Notepad.exe is still available. I am discussing the fine Windows
XP and Windows Server 2003 operating systems, here.

Does anyone happen to know why (or if) they disappeared, or if they archived

somewhere else?

Please and thank you!


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