Whistler and Win98SE

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Hello,

I’m about to embark on debugging a driver under Whistler. I have chosen
(mostly for reasons of mental health) to keep running Win98SE on my
development system. I don’t want to change over to Win2K unless I really
have to…

The problem is that I want to use WinDBG to debug the Whistler driver, while
using my Win98 system as the “console.” I just tried installing NT 4 on an
old laptop, but NT 4 does not like the SCSI hard drive in my docking
station.

Is there any way I can run the console end of WinDBG from my Win98 system?

Thanks,

Evan Hillman

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Hmm. How to respond? First, I’ll opine that choosing to remain on Win98SE
instead of Win2K is akin to choosing to drive your balky 65 bug with a
questionable ignition system instead of the brand new BMW. I have used
both, and I won’t depend on Win98SE for anything except games. I can’t say
anything about upgrading, though, I started with clean disks.

As far as your real question goes, it’s not clear what you want to do. What
is “console”? Does Whistler have a redirectable console window? Are you
trying to use a laptop with NT 4 as the debugger, and you have the Whistler
debuggee console redirected to your Win98 system? 3 systems? Do I have the
right picture? If so, try Win2K on the laptop.

Better yet, install Win2K on a clean disk on your development system,
install all your apps, then attach the Win98SE disk and move your data over.
Then use it for your “console” and debugger. Or use the laptop for your
console.

Phil

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* Intel Corp. | Not speaking for Intel

-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Hillman [mailto:xxxxx@home.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:02 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] Whistler and Win98SE

Hello,

I’m about to embark on debugging a driver under Whistler. I have chosen
(mostly for reasons of mental health) to keep running Win98SE on my
development system. I don’t want to change over to Win2K unless I really
have to…

The problem is that I want to use WinDBG to debug the Whistler driver, while
using my Win98 system as the “console.” I just tried installing NT 4 on an
old laptop, but NT 4 does not like the SCSI hard drive in my docking
station.

Is there any way I can run the console end of WinDBG from my Win98 system?

Thanks,

Evan Hillman

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Mostly the fact that the system came with Win 98 installed, all the apps I
have work, I would have to upgrade some apps to use Win2k, and the
technician I communicated with at Dell said he had tried to upgrade his
personal system (which was identical to mine) and really hosed it. He
reverted to Win98.

My colleagues suggest that the only safe way to upgrade is to reformat,
install Win2k then reinstall all the apps. Big pain.

So the short answer is, it ain’t too broke, so I don’t want to fix it. The
pain of change is greater than the pain of staying the same…

Note I have made no arguments about why Win98 itself is better than Win2K.

-Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Wesley Witt [mailto:xxxxx@veritas.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 1:35 PM
To: ‘xxxxx@home.com’
Subject: RE: [windbg] Whistler and Win98SE

if you really care about your mental healt you’ll delete wind-blows-98 as
fast as you can. what possible reason could you have for using win98 as a
dev platform? what a nightmare! beyond the fact that win98 as a pathetic
excuse for an os, you will NEVER have the indended experience and i would
bet that tools like the debugger will not work properly, if at all, on
win98. you are WAY better off running win2k on ALL your windows machines.
really, all jokes and sarcasm aside, why would you run win98 now or ever?

-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Hillman [mailto:xxxxx@home.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 11:02 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] Whistler and Win98SE

Hello,

I’m about to embark on debugging a driver under Whistler. I have chosen
(mostly for reasons of mental health) to keep running Win98SE on my
development system. I don’t want to change over to Win2K unless I really
have to…

The problem is that I want to use WinDBG to debug the Whistler
driver, while
using my Win98 system as the “console.” I just tried installing
NT 4 on an
old laptop, but NT 4 does not like the SCSI hard drive in my docking
station.

Is there any way I can run the console end of WinDBG from my Win98 system?

Thanks,

Evan Hillman

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