Well it works … sort of. I get 2 or 3 BSODs on the laptop daily in
UPnPFramework. Not to mention the general loss of connect that happens at
odd times, or the target hanging doing a send to an unresponsive host …
which will probably BSOD when I reset it to clear the comm hang.
I think a lot of the problem is Belkens drivers. WHQL warned me too, with
its bitch boxes about Belkens drivers not having been certified. I certainly
can attest to that, and understand why Belken/Etek did not get them
certified. 
Thinking it might be 2000/XP compatability, I went to Belkens URL and
downloaded the XP drivers. While they did work better than the 2000 drivers
that came on the install CD, there still the problems mentioned above. I
then looked at the dates of the files … August of 2001. Anyone got later
BelkenEtek USB to Serial drivers that work reliably on XP?
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“Gary G. Little” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
> Well it works … sort of. I get 2 or 3 BSODs on the laptop daily in
> UPnPFramework. Not to mention the general loss of connect that happens at
> odd times, or the target hanging doing a send to an unresponsive host …
> which will probably BSOD when I reset it to clear the comm hang.
[snip]
Well, here’s part of your problem right there. Turn off the UPnP stuff,
unless you really have a use for it. Disable the UPnP Device Host and the
SSDP Discovery services. If none of your network connected devices
disappears, you didn’t need it. If something does disappear, you can
probably connect it another way.
Phil
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E-mail address is pointed at a domain squatter. Use reply-to instead.
Thanks Phil.
This is a Sony GRV550 filled to the max with a whole bunch of crap for
vidio, audio, photography and gaming that is doing nothing but occupying
disk space. Looks like I need to round file a mess of stuff. When I bought
it at Circuit City, I asked if I could get one with only XP and Office
installed. The look I got was like I was an old fool … oh well … tohs
and the toy generation.
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909-551-2105
“Phil Barila” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
> “Gary G. Little” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
> >
> > Well it works … sort of. I get 2 or 3 BSODs on the laptop daily in
> > UPnPFramework. Not to mention the general loss of connect that happens
at
> > odd times, or the target hanging doing a send to an unresponsive host
…
> > which will probably BSOD when I reset it to clear the comm hang.
>
> [snip]
>
> Well, here’s part of your problem right there. Turn off the UPnP stuff,
> unless you really have a use for it. Disable the UPnP Device Host and the
> SSDP Discovery services. If none of your network connected devices
> disappears, you didn’t need it. If something does disappear, you can
> probably connect it another way.
>
> Phil
> –
> Philip D. Barila
> Seagate Technology, LLC
> (720) 684-1842
> E-mail address is pointed at a domain squatter. Use reply-to instead.
>
>
>
>
FWIW, I have a Belkin F5U109 usb-> serial adapter with drivers from
Belkin (12/7/2002 v1.20.1207.1) and upon booting the target, I’ll see
---- snip ----
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.1.0009.0
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Opened \.\com1
Waiting to reconnect…
Connected to Windows NT 4 1381 x86 compatible target, ptr64 FALSE
Kernel Debugger connection established.
Symbol search path is:
symsrv*symsrv.dll*\jackson\wintools\symsrv;srv*\jackson\wintools\downloadstore*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;d:\funk\proxy4\build\debug;d:\funk\proxy4\host\kernel\build\chk_w2k\i386;d:\funk\proxy4\host\kernel\build\fre_w2k\i386
Executable search path is:
---- snip ----
And I never get any further. Can’t break into the target, etc.
Looks like the Belkin adapters/drivers could just be junk… I know the
adapter works though, because I’ve controlled another machine (an alpha)
over the serial port using this adapter… I’ve mucked with settings in
the driver’s properties pages, but to no avail…
sean
Gary G. Little wrote:
Thanks Phil.
This is a Sony GRV550 filled to the max with a whole bunch of crap for
vidio, audio, photography and gaming that is doing nothing but occupying
disk space. Looks like I need to round file a mess of stuff. When I bought
it at Circuit City, I asked if I could get one with only XP and Office
installed. The look I got was like I was an old fool … oh well … tohs
and the toy generation.
–
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Have Computer, will travel …
909-698-3191
909-551-2105
“Phil Barila” wrote in message
>news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
>
>>“Gary G. Little” wrote in message
>>
>>
>news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
>
>>>Well it works … sort of. I get 2 or 3 BSODs on the laptop daily in
>>>UPnPFramework. Not to mention the general loss of connect that happens
>>>
>>>
>at
>
>
>>>odd times, or the target hanging doing a send to an unresponsive host
>>>
>>>
>…
>
>
>>>which will probably BSOD when I reset it to clear the comm hang.
>>>
>>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>Well, here’s part of your problem right there. Turn off the UPnP stuff,
>>unless you really have a use for it. Disable the UPnP Device Host and the
>>SSDP Discovery services. If none of your network connected devices
>>disappears, you didn’t need it. If something does disappear, you can
>>probably connect it another way.
>>
>>Phil
>>–
>>Philip D. Barila
>>Seagate Technology, LLC
>>(720) 684-1842
>>E-mail address is pointed at a domain squatter. Use reply-to instead.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Hmmm, makes you wonder if the Belkin driver boys and girls co-habit this
list, or ever taken a course from Walter. Maybe they should.
I have been using the F5U103 set of drivers. I cut the bps down from 115.2K
to 57.6K and thus far (knock on wood) I have had a good day of debug. Have
you lowered the bps, Sean?
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“Sean Bullington” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
> FWIW, I have a Belkin F5U109 usb-> serial adapter with drivers from
> Belkin (12/7/2002 v1.20.1207.1) and upon booting the target, I’ll see
>
> ---- snip ----
> Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.1.0009.0
> Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> Opened \.\com1
> Waiting to reconnect…
> Connected to Windows NT 4 1381 x86 compatible target, ptr64 FALSE
> Kernel Debugger connection established.
> Symbol search path is:
>
symsrvsymsrv.dll\jackson\wintools\symsrv;srv*\jackson\wintools\downloads
tore*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;d:\funk\proxy4\build\debug;d
:\funk\proxy4\host\kernel\build\chk_w2k\i386;d:\funk\proxy4\host\kernel\buil
d\fre_w2k\i386
> Executable search path is:
> ---- snip ----
>
> And I never get any further. Can’t break into the target, etc.
>
> Looks like the Belkin adapters/drivers could just be junk… I know the
> adapter works though, because I’ve controlled another machine (an alpha)
> over the serial port using this adapter… I’ve mucked with settings in
> the driver’s properties pages, but to no avail…
>
> sean
>
> Gary G. Little wrote:
>
> >Thanks Phil.
> >
> > This is a Sony GRV550 filled to the max with a whole bunch of crap for
> >vidio, audio, photography and gaming that is doing nothing but occupying
> >disk space. Looks like I need to round file a mess of stuff. When I
bought
> >it at Circuit City, I asked if I could get one with only XP and Office
> >installed. The look I got was like I was an old fool … oh well … tohs
> >and the toy generation.
> >
> >–
> >Gary G. Little
> >Have Computer, will travel …
> >909-698-3191
> >909-551-2105
> >
> >“Phil Barila” wrote in message
> >news:xxxxx@windbg…
> >
> >
> >>“Gary G. Little” wrote in message
> >>
> >>
> >news:xxxxx@windbg…
> >
> >
> >>>Well it works … sort of. I get 2 or 3 BSODs on the laptop daily in
> >>>UPnPFramework. Not to mention the general loss of connect that happens
> >>>
> >>>
> >at
> >
> >
> >>>odd times, or the target hanging doing a send to an unresponsive host
> >>>
> >>>
> >…
> >
> >
> >>>which will probably BSOD when I reset it to clear the comm hang.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>[snip]
> >>
> >>Well, here’s part of your problem right there. Turn off the UPnP stuff,
> >>unless you really have a use for it. Disable the UPnP Device Host and
the
> >>SSDP Discovery services. If none of your network connected devices
> >>disappears, you didn’t need it. If something does disappear, you can
> >>probably connect it another way.
> >>
> >>Phil
> >>–
> >>Philip D. Barila
> >>Seagate Technology, LLC
> >>(720) 684-1842
> >>E-mail address is pointed at a domain squatter. Use reply-to instead.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Yah I even went down to 9600 (cringe!) but got the same results… I
just snagged the latest XP drivers off the Belkin site… I’ll give
those a go and see if it improves the situation any… I don’t use the
usb adapter for my main debugging machine, but I figured it would be
nice if I’m ever visiting a client and want to do any debugging or
something from my laptop…
Now if everyone would just force the inclusion of firewire devices on
all machines and make all machines XP SP1 or better, it would make my
life much easier
sean
Gary G. Little wrote:
Hmmm, makes you wonder if the Belkin driver boys and girls co-habit this
list, or ever taken a course from Walter. Maybe they should.
I have been using the F5U103 set of drivers. I cut the bps down from 115.2K
to 57.6K and thus far (knock on wood) I have had a good day of debug. Have
you lowered the bps, Sean?
–
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Have Computer, will travel …
909-698-3191
909-551-2105
“Sean Bullington” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
>
>>FWIW, I have a Belkin F5U109 usb-> serial adapter with drivers from
>>Belkin (12/7/2002 v1.20.1207.1) and upon booting the target, I’ll see
>>
>>---- snip ----
>>Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.1.0009.0
>>Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>
>>Opened \.\com1
>>Waiting to reconnect…
>>Connected to Windows NT 4 1381 x86 compatible target, ptr64 FALSE
>>Kernel Debugger connection established.
>>Symbol search path is:
>>
>>
>>
>symsrvsymsrv.dll\jackson\wintools\symsrv;srv*\jackson\wintools\downloads
>tore*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;d:\funk\proxy4\build\debug;d
>:\funk\proxy4\host\kernel\build\chk_w2k\i386;d:\funk\proxy4\host\kernel\buil
>d\fre_w2k\i386
>
>
>>Executable search path is:
>>---- snip ----
>>
>>And I never get any further. Can’t break into the target, etc.
>>
>>Looks like the Belkin adapters/drivers could just be junk… I know the
>>adapter works though, because I’ve controlled another machine (an alpha)
>>over the serial port using this adapter… I’ve mucked with settings in
>>the driver’s properties pages, but to no avail…
>>
>>sean
>>
>>Gary G. Little wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thanks Phil.
>>>
>>>This is a Sony GRV550 filled to the max with a whole bunch of crap for
>>>vidio, audio, photography and gaming that is doing nothing but occupying
>>>disk space. Looks like I need to round file a mess of stuff. When I
>>>
>>>
>bought
>
>
>>>it at Circuit City, I asked if I could get one with only XP and Office
>>>installed. The look I got was like I was an old fool … oh well … tohs
>>>and the toy generation.
>>>
>>>–
>>>Gary G. Little
>>>Have Computer, will travel …
>>>909-698-3191
>>>909-551-2105
>>>
>>>“Phil Barila” wrote in message
>>>news:xxxxx@windbg…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>“Gary G. Little” wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>news:xxxxx@windbg…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Well it works … sort of. I get 2 or 3 BSODs on the laptop daily in
>>>>>UPnPFramework. Not to mention the general loss of connect that happens
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>at
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>odd times, or the target hanging doing a send to an unresponsive host
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>which will probably BSOD when I reset it to clear the comm hang.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>[snip]
>>>>
>>>>Well, here’s part of your problem right there. Turn off the UPnP stuff,
>>>>unless you really have a use for it. Disable the UPnP Device Host and
>>>>
>>>>
>the
>
>
>>>>SSDP Discovery services. If none of your network connected devices
>>>>disappears, you didn’t need it. If something does disappear, you can
>>>>probably connect it another way.
>>>>
>>>>Phil
>>>>–
>>>>Philip D. Barila
>>>>Seagate Technology, LLC
>>>>(720) 684-1842
>>>>E-mail address is pointed at a domain squatter. Use reply-to instead.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Well I got the latest driver from the Belkin site for my adapter, and
it’s the same version I had before. Sigh.
So I tried fiddling with it again, and got the same results. However,
this time it gave me a neat screen with a blue background and white
writing on it…
I basically did:
- install new driver with adapter unplugged, reboot
- plug in adapter, let windows find driver for adapter
- start windbg
- connect to my target, watch it freeze and do nothing when I hit ctrl-break
- belkin usb to serial adapter
- unplugged the belkin usb adapter (windbg is still open on the host
machine)
- close windbg
boom
---- snip ----
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
…
*** U2S2KXPB.SYS - Address …
---- snip ----
And wouldn’t you know it, that just happens to be the driver that was
installed when I plugged in the adapter. So I guess for now I’d warn
anyone against using the F5U109 adapter and instead go with the F5U103
that Gary got to work…
:<br>
Someday when I have nothing better to do with 8 or 10 hours of my life
I’ll return to try and get this working again…
sean
Goo’ness Sean, you sound like me … an old curmudgeon.
YOu might stop the BSODS by doing what Phil suggested … Kill the SSDS
wservice on the laptop.
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Have Computer, will travel …
909-698-3191
909-551-2105
“Sean Bullington” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
> Well I got the latest driver from the Belkin site for my adapter, and
> it’s the same version I had before. Sigh.
> So I tried fiddling with it again, and got the same results. However,
> this time it gave me a neat screen with a blue background and white
> writing on it…
> I basically did:
> - install new driver with adapter unplugged, reboot
> - plug in adapter, let windows find driver for adapter
> - start windbg
> - connect to my target, watch it freeze and do nothing when I hit
ctrl-break
> - belkin usb to serial adapter
> - unplugged the belkin usb adapter (windbg is still open on the host
> machine)
> - close windbg
>
> boom
>
> ---- snip ----
> DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
> …
> *** U2S2KXPB.SYS - Address …
> ---- snip ----
>
> And wouldn’t you know it, that just happens to be the driver that was
> installed when I plugged in the adapter. So I guess for now I’d warn
> anyone against using the F5U109 adapter and instead go with the F5U103
> that Gary got to work…
>
> :<br>>
> Someday when I have nothing better to do with 8 or 10 hours of my life
> I’ll return to try and get this working again…
>
> sean
>
>
>
>
>
spelling spelling spelling …
That is the SSDP service …
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“Gary G. Little” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
> Goo’ness Sean, you sound like me … an old curmudgeon.
>
> YOu might stop the BSODS by doing what Phil suggested … Kill the SSDS
> wservice on the laptop.
>
> –
> Gary G. Little
> Have Computer, will travel …
> 909-698-3191
> 909-551-2105
>
> “Sean Bullington” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
> >
> > Well I got the latest driver from the Belkin site for my adapter, and
> > it’s the same version I had before. Sigh.
> > So I tried fiddling with it again, and got the same results. However,
> > this time it gave me a neat screen with a blue background and white
> > writing on it…
> > I basically did:
> > - install new driver with adapter unplugged, reboot
> > - plug in adapter, let windows find driver for adapter
> > - start windbg
> > - connect to my target, watch it freeze and do nothing when I hit
> ctrl-break
> > - belkin usb to serial adapter
> > - unplugged the belkin usb adapter (windbg is still open on the host
> > machine)
> > - close windbg
> >
> > boom
> >
> > ---- snip ----
> > DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
> > …
> > *** U2S2KXPB.SYS - Address …
> > ---- snip ----
> >
> > And wouldn’t you know it, that just happens to be the driver that was
> > installed when I plugged in the adapter. So I guess for now I’d warn
> > anyone against using the F5U109 adapter and instead go with the F5U103
> > that Gary got to work…
> >
> > :<br>> >
> > Someday when I have nothing better to do with 8 or 10 hours of my life
> > I’ll return to try and get this working again…
> >
> > sean
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Too many acronyms
Nah that doesn’t seem to affect it, I can get the system to crash with
and without the service running…
I just did a quick look at the crash dump… The U2S2KXPB.SYS driver
crashes in a read from non-paged pool, so I’m guessing it has something
to do with the fact that WinDBG has the driver open while I rip the
device out, which causes the driver to do some type of suprise removal
handling, but it doesn’t do it right… and then when WinDBG closes
(which most likely does a close on the com port it had open), the driver
tries to clean up what has already been removed and trips over itself…
but that’s just my guess…
*shrug* who knows… for now I’ll just demote the adapter to use in
hyperterm and never rip it out of the box while an app has it open
sean
Gary G. Little wrote:
spelling spelling spelling …
That is the SSDP service …
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“Gary G. Little” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
>
>>Goo’ness Sean, you sound like me … an old curmudgeon.
>>
>>YOu might stop the BSODS by doing what Phil suggested … Kill the SSDS
>>wservice on the laptop.
>>
>>–
>>Gary G. Little
>>Have Computer, will travel …
>>909-698-3191
>>909-551-2105
>>
>>
>>
>
>
The first thing I do after buying a new computer is to wipe the hard
drive and start from scratch. You should see how many useless services
are installed on something like a Compaq, for example (I count around 9
compaq something-or-other). Not to mention the weird hidden partition
Dell puts on your hard drive (for god knows what purpose). Better to be
in control.
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Gary G. Little
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:34 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] Re: USB to RS-232 and WinDbg on a GRV550 laptop
Thanks Phil.
This is a Sony GRV550 filled to the max with a whole bunch
of crap for vidio, audio, photography and gaming that is
doing nothing but occupying disk space. Looks like I need to
round file a mess of stuff. When I bought it at Circuit City,
I asked if I could get one with only XP and Office installed.
The look I got was like I was an old fool … oh well …
tohs and the toy generation.
–
Gary G. Little
Have Computer, will travel …
909-698-3191
909-551-2105
“Phil Barila” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
> “Gary G. Little” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
> >
> > Well it works … sort of. I get 2 or 3 BSODs on the laptop daily in
> > UPnPFramework. Not to mention the general loss of connect that
> > happens
at
> > odd times, or the target hanging doing a send to an unresponsive
> > host
…
> > which will probably BSOD when I reset it to clear the comm hang.
>
> [snip]
>
> Well, here’s part of your problem right there. Turn off the UPnP
> stuff, unless you really have a use for it. Disable the UPnP Device
> Host and the SSDP Discovery services. If none of your network
> connected devices disappears, you didn’t need it. If something does
> disappear, you can probably connect it another way.
>
> Phil
> –
> Philip D. Barila
> Seagate Technology, LLC
> (720) 684-1842
> E-mail address is pointed at a domain squatter. Use reply-to instead.
>
>
>
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I can understand that. Sony has loaded this thing with a buncvh of crap I
niether need nor wanted to pay for … but had to to get the 16" screen.
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“Nicholas Ryan” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
>
> The first thing I do after buying a new computer is to wipe the hard
> drive and start from scratch. You should see how many useless services
> are installed on something like a Compaq, for example (I count around 9
> compaq something-or-other). Not to mention the weird hidden partition
> Dell puts on your hard drive (for god knows what purpose). Better to be
> in control.
>
> - Nicholas Ryan
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Gary G. Little
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:34 AM
> > To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
> > Subject: [windbg] Re: USB to RS-232 and WinDbg on a GRV550 laptop
> >
> >
> > Thanks Phil.
> >
> > This is a Sony GRV550 filled to the max with a whole bunch
> > of crap for vidio, audio, photography and gaming that is
> > doing nothing but occupying disk space. Looks like I need to
> > round file a mess of stuff. When I bought it at Circuit City,
> > I asked if I could get one with only XP and Office installed.
> > The look I got was like I was an old fool … oh well …
> > tohs and the toy generation.
> >
> > –
> > Gary G. Little
> > Have Computer, will travel …
> > 909-698-3191
> > 909-551-2105
> >
> > “Phil Barila” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@windbg…
> >
> > “Gary G. Little” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@windbg…
> > >
> > > Well it works … sort of. I get 2 or 3 BSODs on the laptop daily in
>
> > > UPnPFramework. Not to mention the general loss of connect that
> > > happens
> at
> > > odd times, or the target hanging doing a send to an unresponsive
> > > host
> …
> > > which will probably BSOD when I reset it to clear the comm hang.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Well, here’s part of your problem right there. Turn off the UPnP
> > stuff, unless you really have a use for it. Disable the UPnP Device
> > Host and the SSDP Discovery services. If none of your network
> > connected devices disappears, you didn’t need it. If something does
> > disappear, you can probably connect it another way.
> >
> > Phil
> > –
> > Philip D. Barila
> > Seagate Technology, LLC
> > (720) 684-1842
> > E-mail address is pointed at a domain squatter. Use reply-to instead.
> >
> >
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