please suggest a good unit testing tool for KMDF usb driver. also will be good if its liecence free…
xxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
please suggest a good unit testing tool for KMDF usb driver. also will be good if its liecence free…
Have you taken a look at what Windows Logo Kit has to offer yet for
Windows driver testing?
yeah…heard about tht tool but its tool complex n heavy…is there any 3rd party tool to do so.
THE WINDOWS LOGO KIT DOES NOT TEST DRIVERS ONLY THE PATIENCE OF ITS USERS.
Sorry, but the criteria in the WLK for unclassified is what I call minimum
to pass a driver to QA, not a test environment.
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Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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“sduff” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> xxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
>> please suggest a good unit testing tool for KMDF usb driver. also will be
>> good if its liecence free…
>
> Have you taken a look at what Windows Logo Kit has to offer yet for
> Windows driver testing?
>
Don Burn wrote:
THE WINDOWS LOGO KIT DOES NOT TEST DRIVERS ONLY THE PATIENCE OF ITS USERS.
Sorry, but the criteria in the WLK for unclassified is what I call minimum
to pass a driver to QA, not a test environment.
How about actually doing something about it?
AFAIK, Microsoft is still hiring test engineers.
“Hagen Patzke” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Don Burn wrote:
>> THE WINDOWS LOGO KIT DOES NOT TEST DRIVERS ONLY THE PATIENCE OF ITS
>> USERS. Sorry, but the criteria in the WLK for unclassified is what I call
>> minimum to pass a driver to QA, not a test environment.
>
> How about actually doing something about it?
> AFAIK, Microsoft is still hiring test engineers.
What do you propose we do about it? Some of us have been having this
discussion with Microsoft for over 10 years. Once in a while you get
someone to listen, and then they get transferred or terminated. Note: that
six years ago last spring there was a near riot when the concept of DTM was
presented, one of the points hammered home after that was there were
inadequate tests to help driver writers. Since then nothing has been
acomplished, and the tests that were there have become harder to use thanks
to DTM.
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Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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Don Burn wrote:
>> THE WINDOWS LOGO KIT DOES NOT TEST DRIVERS ONLY THE PATIENCE OF ITS
>> USERS. Sorry, but the criteria in the WLK for unclassified is what I call
>> minimum to pass a driver to QA, not a test environment.
Hagen Patzke wrote:
> How about actually doing something about it?
> AFAIK, Microsoft is still hiring test engineers.
Don Burn wrote:
What do you propose we do about it?
Work from the inside. Apply for a position as DTM/test developer.
Don, with your reputation you can probably get a position in MS where
you can change something.
Are you applying? Actually the current positions are pretty low level, and
pays a lot less than any decent driver consultant makes. I did have
discussions with a previous director level person at Microsoft about
consulting to help them fix their testing environment, but as I pointed out
they change the organization so often that this did not occur.
Sorry, but this is a really stupid suggestion on how to fix the problem.
Joining an organization as an entry level dev, does not help this problem.
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Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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“Hagen Patzke” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Don Burn wrote:
>>>> THE WINDOWS LOGO KIT DOES NOT TEST DRIVERS ONLY THE PATIENCE OF ITS
>>>> USERS. Sorry, but the criteria in the WLK for unclassified is what I
>>>> call minimum to pass a driver to QA, not a test environment.
>
> Hagen Patzke wrote:
>>> How about actually doing something about it?
>>> AFAIK, Microsoft is still hiring test engineers.
>
> Don Burn wrote:
>> What do you propose we do about it?
>
>
> Work from the inside. Apply for a position as DTM/test developer.
>
> Don, with your reputation you can probably get a position in MS where you
> can change something.
>
cfix (http://cfix.sf.net/) supports kernel mode unit tests and might
suit your needs.
I am the author of cfix, so feel free to contact me in case you
experience any problems with it. Any kind of feedback is welcome.
–Johannes
xxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
yeah…heard about tht tool but its tool complex n heavy…is there
any 3rd party tool to do so.
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Johannes Passing - http://int3.de/
Don Burn wrote:
Are you applying?
No, (a) I like my current job very much, and (b) I currently don’t have
your level of expertise in the matter under discussion.
I did have discussions with a previous director level person at
Microsoft about consulting to help them fix their testing
environment, but as I pointed out they change the organization so
often that this did not occur.
So you *did* actually try. Good! And it’s a pity that MS missed on
the chance to get you working for them (DTM fixing or otherwise).
Sorry, but this is a really stupid suggestion on how to fix the
problem. Joining an organization as an entry level dev, does not help
this problem.
Please read again, Don - I did not suggest *that*. In my response to
your initial reply I said “Don, with your reputation you can probably
get a position in MS where you can change something.”
Does this sound like I refer to an entry-level position?
Unfortunately, obviously I am wrong and you can *not* get a position in
MS where you can improve the testing environment for us all.
Thanks for trying, and please keep it up!
Don Burn wrote:
Actually the current positions are pretty low level, and
pays a lot less than any decent driver consultant makes.
You might want to look at the current issue of “The NT Insider”, p.18.
DEFINITELY LOW LEVEL.
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Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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“Hagen Patzke” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Don Burn wrote:
>> Actually the current positions are pretty low level, and pays a lot less
>> than any decent driver consultant makes.
>
> You might want to look at the current issue of “The NT Insider”, p.18.
>