symbol less debugging

i want to know how to debug machines that dnt have symbols them. i have a
client side driver crash, and all they can give me is a small 64 k dump of
it. they cannot give more dump as they cannot transmit that through email,
due to size problems. how do i debug such a crash without symbols. the free
build of the driver is there. i have read the articles about the debugging
in osr, and i ned something more than that!

a p

You really need symbols (or at least binaries) in order to be able to debug summary dumps. The default for virtually all Microsoft build environments is to generate .pdbs even for release/free builds, BTW.


Ken Johnson (Skywing)
Windows SDK MVP
http://www.nynaeve.net
“A P” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
i want to know how to debug machines that dnt have symbols them. i have a client side driver crash, and all they can give me is a small 64 k dump of it. they cannot give more dump as they cannot transmit that through email, due to size problems. how do i debug such a crash without symbols. the free build of the driver is there. i have read the articles about the debugging in osr, and i ned something more than that!

a p

ok i have the symbols with me at by dev environemnt…so i have to to get
he 64k dump and match it with them right?

On 1/15/07, Skywing wrote:
>
> You really need symbols (or at least binaries) in order to be able to
> debug summary dumps. The default for virtually all Microsoft build
> environments is to generate .pdbs even for release/free builds, BTW.
>
> –
> Ken Johnson (Skywing)
> Windows SDK MVP
> http://www.nynaeve.net
>
> “A P” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
> i want to know how to debug machines that dnt have symbols them. i have a
> client side driver crash, and all they can give me is a small 64 k dump of
> it. they cannot give more dump as they cannot transmit that through email,
> due to size problems. how do i debug such a crash without symbols. the free
> build of the driver is there. i have read the articles about the debugging
> in osr, and i ned something more than that!
>
> a p
>
>
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Assuming you don’t have a symbol server set up, place them in a directory referred to by your symbol path and the debugger should pick them up automagically.


Ken Johnson (Skywing)
Windows SDK MVP
http://www.nynaeve.net
“A P” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
ok i have the symbols with me at by dev environemnt…so i have to to get he 64k dump and match it with them right?

On 1/15/07, Skywing < xxxxx@valhallalegends.com> wrote:
You really need symbols (or at least binaries) in order to be able to debug summary dumps. The default for virtually all Microsoft build environments is to generate .pdbs even for release/free builds, BTW.


Ken Johnson (Skywing)
Windows SDK MVP
http://www.nynaeve.net
“A P” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
i want to know how to debug machines that dnt have symbols them. i have a client side driver crash, and all they can give me is a small 64 k dump of it. they cannot give more dump as they cannot transmit that through email, due to size problems. how do i debug such a crash without symbols. the free build of the driver is there. i have read the articles about the debugging in osr, and i ned something more than that!

a p


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well, but is the 64K DUMP ENOUGH TO do debugging?

On 1/15/07, Skywing wrote:
>
> Assuming you don’t have a symbol server set up, place them in a directory
> referred to by your symbol path and the debugger should pick them up
> automagically.
>
> –
> Ken Johnson (Skywing)
> Windows SDK MVP
> http://www.nynaeve.net
>
> “A P” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
> ok i have the symbols with me at by dev environemnt…so i have to to get
> he 64k dump and match it with them right?
>
>
>
>
> On 1/15/07, Skywing < xxxxx@valhallalegends.com> wrote:
> >
> > You really need symbols (or at least binaries) in order to be able to
> > debug summary dumps. The default for virtually all Microsoft build
> > environments is to generate .pdbs even for release/free builds, BTW.
> >
> > –
> > Ken Johnson (Skywing)
> > Windows SDK MVP
> > http://www.nynaeve.net
> >
> > “A P” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
> > i want to know how to debug machines that dnt have symbols them. i have
> > a client side driver crash, and all they can give me is a small 64 k dump of
> > it. they cannot give more dump as they cannot transmit that through email,
> > due to size problems. how do i debug such a crash without symbols. the free
> > build of the driver is there. i have read the articles about the debugging
> > in osr, and i ned something more than that!
> >
> > a p
> >
> >
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Depends on the problem you’re investigating. You are almost certain to need access to symbols in order to make any progress with a summary dump.


Ken Johnson (Skywing)
Windows SDK MVP
http://www.nynaeve.net
“A P” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
well, but is the 64K DUMP ENOUGH TO do debugging?

On 1/15/07, Skywing wrote:
Assuming you don’t have a symbol server set up, place them in a directory referred to by your symbol path and the debugger should pick them up automagically.


Ken Johnson (Skywing)
Windows SDK MVP
http://www.nynaeve.net
“A P” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
ok i have the symbols with me at by dev environemnt…so i have to to get he 64k dump and match it with them right?

On 1/15/07, Skywing < xxxxx@valhallalegends.com> wrote:
You really need symbols (or at least binaries) in order to be able to debug summary dumps. The default for virtually all Microsoft build environments is to generate .pdbs even for release/free builds, BTW.


Ken Johnson (Skywing)
Windows SDK MVP
http://www.nynaeve.net
“A P” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
i want to know how to debug machines that dnt have symbols them. i have a client side driver crash, and all they can give me is a small 64 k dump of it. they cannot give more dump as they cannot transmit that through email, due to size problems. how do i debug such a crash without symbols. the free build of the driver is there. i have read the articles about the debugging in osr, and i ned something more than that!

a p


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