Hello all,
Before I attempt, I was wondering it softice could run in a VM. This new
machine is running 32bit Vista on x64 dual.
Although softice is dead, I was hoping I could have a VM that would be
compatiable… Something just for those special occasions where the OS
doesn’t really matter.
However, I’m not sure if this would even work… As invasive as it is, can
it run in a VM at all without an conflict?
Thanks,
Matt
SoftICE used to function inside of an older version of VMWare, but not
VPC, but that was a while ago. If my memory serves me correctly, you
had to set to values in the vmx (virtual machine configuration file)
that had to do with mouse and video, and that hope that the video
worked. This information is on VMWare’s website, I believe. This was
all a long time ago, and very well may be incorrect, but either way I
seriously doubt that support for VPC was ever added. Visual SoftICE
should run, I believe, but again only under VMWare, unless VPC support
was added, which I also doubt, if that helps you.
The best case scenario here is that you would be able to do this under
XP SP2 or prior (I think that’s it).
Good luck,
mm
Matthew Martin wrote:
Hello all,
Before I attempt, I was wondering it softice could run in a VM. This new
machine is running 32bit Vista on x64 dual.Although softice is dead, I was hoping I could have a VM that would be
compatiable… Something just for those special occasions where the OS
doesn’t really matter.However, I’m not sure if this would even work… As invasive as it is,
can it run in a VM at all without an conflict?Thanks,
Matt
It’s been over three years now, but I remember we used to have a problem
running on top of VmWare. I don’t know the nature of it because by the time
it surfaced, I no longer managed that software group. SoftICE sits between
the hardware and the OS, and as such it may compete for hooks and other low
level resources with a software such as VmWare.
If you really want SoftICE to run under 32-bit Vista, you can try to add a
set of Vista directives to the OSI data file. Most of its contents comes
from running Windbg commands on the OS, so, it isn’t as daunting as it
looks.
If you need it to run under 64-bit Vista, one of our guys found a way to
defeat the locking mechanism (“if it is software it can be defeated”, that
was his motto) but, alas, he’s joined the Empire when the DriverStudio
development group collapsed at Compuware.
Alberto.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Matthew Martin”
To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:06 AM
Subject: [ntdev] SoftIce + Virtual PC 2007?
> Hello all,
>
> Before I attempt, I was wondering it softice could run in a VM. This new
> machine is running 32bit Vista on x64 dual.
>
> Although softice is dead, I was hoping I could have a VM that would be
> compatiable… Something just for those special occasions where the OS
> doesn’t really matter.
>
> However, I’m not sure if this would even work… As invasive as it is, can
> it run in a VM at all without an conflict?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
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hmmm,
I’m not going to try and force anything… At least not on a new machine…
(I would
like to enjoy it before I screw it up and have to repair)
“SoftICE sits between the hardware and the OS, and as such it may compete
for hooks and other low level resources with a software such as VmWare.”
Yes, this is what I was thinking… Oh well, if anyone can confirm this will
work,
I’ll give it a try. Otherwise, it sounds like an older machine I’m bored
with
would be a perfect candidate, and a lot easier.
Thanks Martin and Alberto, I don’t think I’ll be a ‘cowboy’ here.
Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: “Alberto Moreira”
To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ntdev] SoftIce + Virtual PC 2007?
> It’s been over three years now, but I remember we used to have a problem
> running on top of VmWare. I don’t know the nature of it because by the
> time it surfaced, I no longer managed that software group. SoftICE sits
> between the hardware and the OS, and as such it may compete for hooks and
> other low level resources with a software such as VmWare.
>
> If you really want SoftICE to run under 32-bit Vista, you can try to add a
> set of Vista directives to the OSI data file. Most of its contents comes
> from running Windbg commands on the OS, so, it isn’t as daunting as it
> looks.
>
> If you need it to run under 64-bit Vista, one of our guys found a way to
> defeat the locking mechanism (“if it is software it can be defeated”, that
> was his motto) but, alas, he’s joined the Empire when the DriverStudio
> development group collapsed at Compuware.
>
> Alberto.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Matthew Martin”
> To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:06 AM
> Subject: [ntdev] SoftIce + Virtual PC 2007?
>
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Before I attempt, I was wondering it softice could run in a VM. This new
>> machine is running 32bit Vista on x64 dual.
>>
>> Although softice is dead, I was hoping I could have a VM that would be
>> compatiable… Something just for those special occasions where the OS
>> doesn’t really matter.
>>
>> However, I’m not sure if this would even work… As invasive as it is,
>> can it run in a VM at all without an conflict?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> —
>> NTDEV is sponsored by OSR
>>
>> For our schedule of WDF, WDM, debugging and other seminars visit:
>> http://www.osr.com/seminars
>>
>> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
>> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
>
> —
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>
Alberto,
I guess you mean changing the OSINFO.DAT file to fit the offsets and other stuff in Vista32.
Did you have any success using this approach ? In other words, were you eventually able to run Soft ICE under Vista32?
Inaki.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] En nombre de Alberto Moreira
Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 09 de enero de 2008 13:56
Para: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Asunto: Re: [ntdev] SoftIce + Virtual PC 2007?
It’s been over three years now, but I remember we used to have a problem
running on top of VmWare. I don’t know the nature of it because by the time
it surfaced, I no longer managed that software group. SoftICE sits between
the hardware and the OS, and as such it may compete for hooks and other low
level resources with a software such as VmWare.
If you really want SoftICE to run under 32-bit Vista, you can try to add a
set of Vista directives to the OSI data file. Most of its contents comes
from running Windbg commands on the OS, so, it isn’t as daunting as it
looks.
If you need it to run under 64-bit Vista, one of our guys found a way to
defeat the locking mechanism (“if it is software it can be defeated”, that
was his motto) but, alas, he’s joined the Empire when the DriverStudio
development group collapsed at Compuware.
Alberto.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Matthew Martin”
To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:06 AM
Subject: [ntdev] SoftIce + Virtual PC 2007?
> Hello all,
>
> Before I attempt, I was wondering it softice could run in a VM. This new
> machine is running 32bit Vista on x64 dual.
>
> Although softice is dead, I was hoping I could have a VM that would be
> compatiable… Something just for those special occasions where the OS
> doesn’t really matter.
>
> However, I’m not sure if this would even work… As invasive as it is, can
> it run in a VM at all without an conflict?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
> —
> NTDEV is sponsored by OSR
>
> For our schedule of WDF, WDM, debugging and other seminars visit:
> http://www.osr.com/seminars
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
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I didn’t. But this is how the SoftICE team got it to work on new OS’s. By
the time Vista was out, however, I was long gone!
Alberto.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Iñaki Castillo”
To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:16 AM
Subject: RE: [ntdev] SoftIce + Virtual PC 2007?
Alberto,
I guess you mean changing the OSINFO.DAT file to fit the offsets and other
stuff in Vista32.
Did you have any success using this approach ? In other words, were you
eventually able to run Soft ICE under Vista32?
Inaki.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] En nombre de Alberto Moreira
Enviado el: miércoles, 09 de enero de 2008 13:56
Para: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Asunto: Re: [ntdev] SoftIce + Virtual PC 2007?
It’s been over three years now, but I remember we used to have a problem
running on top of VmWare. I don’t know the nature of it because by the time
it surfaced, I no longer managed that software group. SoftICE sits between
the hardware and the OS, and as such it may compete for hooks and other low
level resources with a software such as VmWare.
If you really want SoftICE to run under 32-bit Vista, you can try to add a
set of Vista directives to the OSI data file. Most of its contents comes
from running Windbg commands on the OS, so, it isn’t as daunting as it
looks.
If you need it to run under 64-bit Vista, one of our guys found a way to
defeat the locking mechanism (“if it is software it can be defeated”, that
was his motto) but, alas, he’s joined the Empire when the DriverStudio
development group collapsed at Compuware.
Alberto.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Matthew Martin”
To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:06 AM
Subject: [ntdev] SoftIce + Virtual PC 2007?
> Hello all,
>
> Before I attempt, I was wondering it softice could run in a VM. This new
> machine is running 32bit Vista on x64 dual.
>
> Although softice is dead, I was hoping I could have a VM that would be
> compatiable… Something just for those special occasions where the OS
> doesn’t really matter.
>
> However, I’m not sure if this would even work… As invasive as it is, can
> it run in a VM at all without an conflict?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
> —
> NTDEV is sponsored by OSR
>
> For our schedule of WDF, WDM, debugging and other seminars visit:
> http://www.osr.com/seminars
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
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