Read raw sectors off CD-ROM

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1

Hi,

I am trying to read raw sectors of a CD-ROM using CreateFile and
ReadFile. When I try to read a sector that is not ISO 9660 then the
read fails. I want to be able to read raw sectors from a CD without
using ASPI as NT/2000/XP has not got support for it by default and I
also don’t want to use DeviceIoControl with IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_TROUGH as
you need admin privileges as of NT5 or above.

Any help would greatly be appreciated
Regards,

Ceri

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Write a driver to pass IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH requests to the CD-ROM
driver. That is what everyone else does. ASPI is a standard way to do the
same, but it is not available unless an Adaptec controller is present (or
some other approved hardware/software package).

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [ntfsd] Read raw sectors off CD-ROM

>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to read raw sectors of a CD-ROM using CreateFile and
> ReadFile. When I try to read a sector that is not ISO 9660 then the
> read fails. I want to be able to read raw sectors from a CD without
> using ASPI as NT/2000/XP has not got support for it by default and I
> also don’t want to use DeviceIoControl with IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_TROUGH as
> you need admin privileges as of NT5 or above.
>
> Any help would greatly be appreciated
> Regards,
>
> Ceri
>
>
>
>
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David,

A Driver would be no good in this case as the program will be stored on
the CD and run off the CD to play audio (not a standard audio CD so the
CDROM audio IOCTL’s wont work). So I don’t want to carry the baggage
and the problems of a driver with the CD as the user will need to
install the driver first.

Regards,
Ceri

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To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Re: Read raw sectors off CD-ROM

Write a driver to pass IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH requests to the CD-ROM
driver. That is what everyone else does. ASPI is a standard way to do
the
same, but it is not available unless an Adaptec controller is present
(or
some other approved hardware/software package).

----- Original Message -----
From: “Ceri Coburn”
To: “File Systems Developers”
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: [ntfsd] Read raw sectors off CD-ROM

>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to read raw sectors of a CD-ROM using CreateFile and
> ReadFile. When I try to read a sector that is not ISO 9660 then the
> read fails. I want to be able to read raw sectors from a CD without
> using ASPI as NT/2000/XP has not got support for it by default and I
> also don’t want to use DeviceIoControl with IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_TROUGH as
> you need admin privileges as of NT5 or above.
>
> Any help would greatly be appreciated
> Regards,
>
> Ceri
>
>
>
>

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Then you have a problem. I don’t think any solution is possible other than
rewriting the OS to permit you to do it your way. All burning software
requires one of three things: 1) ASPI 2) Administrator access for SPTI
3) Device driver(s) to get past administrator access problem.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Ceri Coburn”
To: “File Systems Developers”
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: [ntfsd] Re: Read raw sectors off CD-ROM

> David,
>
> A Driver would be no good in this case as the program will be stored on
> the CD and run off the CD to play audio (not a standard audio CD so the
> CDROM audio IOCTL’s wont work). So I don’t want to carry the baggage
> and the problems of a driver with the CD as the user will need to
> install the driver first.
>
> Regards,
> Ceri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of David J. Craig
> Sent: 10 June 2002 16:31
> To: File Systems Developers
> Subject: [ntfsd] Re: Read raw sectors off CD-ROM
>
> Write a driver to pass IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH requests to the CD-ROM
> driver. That is what everyone else does. ASPI is a standard way to do
> the
> same, but it is not available unless an Adaptec controller is present
> (or
> some other approved hardware/software package).
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Ceri Coburn”
> To: “File Systems Developers”
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:10 AM
> Subject: [ntfsd] Read raw sectors off CD-ROM
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to read raw sectors of a CD-ROM using CreateFile and
> > ReadFile. When I try to read a sector that is not ISO 9660 then the
> > read fails. I want to be able to read raw sectors from a CD without
> > using ASPI as NT/2000/XP has not got support for it by default and I
> > also don’t want to use DeviceIoControl with IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_TROUGH as
> > you need admin privileges as of NT5 or above.
> >
> > Any help would greatly be appreciated
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ceri
> >
> >
> >
> >
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David,

Thanks for your help anyways.

Regards,
Ceri

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Sent: 10 June 2002 17:04
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Re: Read raw sectors off CD-ROM

Then you have a problem. I don’t think any solution is possible other
than
rewriting the OS to permit you to do it your way. All burning software
requires one of three things: 1) ASPI 2) Administrator access for
SPTI
3) Device driver(s) to get past administrator access problem.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Ceri Coburn”
To: “File Systems Developers”
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: [ntfsd] Re: Read raw sectors off CD-ROM

> David,
>
> A Driver would be no good in this case as the program will be stored
on
> the CD and run off the CD to play audio (not a standard audio CD so
the
> CDROM audio IOCTL’s wont work). So I don’t want to carry the baggage
> and the problems of a driver with the CD as the user will need to
> install the driver first.
>
> Regards,
> Ceri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of David J. Craig
> Sent: 10 June 2002 16:31
> To: File Systems Developers
> Subject: [ntfsd] Re: Read raw sectors off CD-ROM
>
> Write a driver to pass IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH requests to the CD-ROM
> driver. That is what everyone else does. ASPI is a standard way to
do
> the
> same, but it is not available unless an Adaptec controller is present
> (or
> some other approved hardware/software package).
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Ceri Coburn”
> To: “File Systems Developers”
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:10 AM
> Subject: [ntfsd] Read raw sectors off CD-ROM
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to read raw sectors of a CD-ROM using CreateFile and
> > ReadFile. When I try to read a sector that is not ISO 9660 then the
> > read fails. I want to be able to read raw sectors from a CD without
> > using ASPI as NT/2000/XP has not got support for it by default and I
> > also don’t want to use DeviceIoControl with IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_TROUGH
as
> > you need admin privileges as of NT5 or above.
> >
> > Any help would greatly be appreciated
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ceri
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Hello David,

DJC> ASPI is a standard way to do the same, but it is not available
DJC> unless an Adaptec controller is present (or some other approved
DJC> hardware/software package).

Since version 4.7, there are no more hardware conditions like this to
comply with. But one doesn’t know how long it will last. It seems that
this is a consequence of the spin-off of Roxio with the CD-ROM burning
software.

–
Best Regards
Pierre Duhem
Logiciels & Services Duhem, Paris (France)
xxxxx@macdisk.com

7

Use IOCTL_CDROM_RAW_READ _.

Jamey

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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:11 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Read raw sectors off CD-ROM

Hi,

I am trying to read raw sectors of a CD-ROM using CreateFile and
ReadFile. When I try to read a sector that is not ISO 9660 then the
read fails. I want to be able to read raw sectors from a CD without
using ASPI as NT/2000/XP has not got support for it by default and I
also don’t want to use DeviceIoControl with IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_TROUGH as
you need admin privileges as of NT5 or above.

Any help would greatly be appreciated
Regards,

Ceri

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> I am trying to read raw sectors of a CD-ROM using CreateFile and

ReadFile. When I try to read a sector that is not ISO 9660 then the

Try IOCTL_CDROM_RAW_READ. This is upper a level then SPTI, but lower
then ReadFile.

Max