Re: Re: [ntdev] Question regarding export drivers

Sure Doron.

Let’s say if I have array of similar resources (for convenience, assume
four same sized memory blobs) and the driver only maintains which consumer
uses which resource and gates access to other resources. Apart from this,
there is no other functionality needed.

The list of APIs will be say,
GetResource(consumerId) - returns a resource id
AccessResource(consumerId, resourceId)
PutResource(consumerId, resourceId).

I was trying to check if this simple functionality can be achieved by using
simple shared library.

Best regards,
Chakri

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Don Burn wrote:

> Lets step back and ask the “standard question” why do you wish to use an
> export driver? I.E. What problem are you trying to solve, by doing this?
> There are a lot of solutions to code sharing in the kernel, what is the
> problem you are trying to solve?
>
>
> Don Burn
> Windows Driver Consulting
> Website: http://www.windrvr.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:
> xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Driver Learner
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ntdev] Re: [ntdev] Question regarding export drivers
>
> First of all, thanks a lot for the responses. I am so grateful to get
> responses on such an off topic.
>
> “There’s really no good mechanism to manage a shared export driver across
> multiple driver packages” - exactly what I found with my experiments and
> hence the question if the driver can act as both regular driver and export
> driver.
>
>
> Doron,
> Can you elaborate on load order problems?
>
>
> If I am able to work around whatever problems are, will such driver be
> eligible for certification?
>
>
> Regards,
> Chakri
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Martin O’Brien <
> xxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> So true – unless you really need them (which sometimes you do),
> DLL’s are just more trouble than they are worth, IMO.
>
>
>
> mm
>
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 7:35 AM
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> Subject: [ntdev] Re: [ntdev] Question regarding export drivers
>
>
>
> Note that source code can easily be shared via encapsulation in a
> static library. This produces a duplicated memory footprint, but avoids
> all load order and versioning issued associated with sharing
>
>
>
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> There’s really no good mechanism to manage a shared export driver
> across multiple driver packages. Since, as Doron pointed out, the
> versioning is done at the package level, it’s very easy for package B,
> which contains an older version of the export driver, to install and roll
> the export driver back to something older than package A requires.
>
>
>
> PNP also doesn’t know how to shut down an export driver, so when
> you install package B PNP will copy the export driver, but may not be able
> to ensure that it unloads and the newer version loads.
>
>
>
> Generally the rule is not to try and share drivers between
> packages.
>
>
>
> -p
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>
>
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:
> xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Doron Holan
> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 9:06 PM
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> Subject: RE: [ntdev] Question regarding export drivers
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>
>
> 1 yes, but it can get a little complicated with respect to load
> order
>
> 2 each package should install the export driver
>
> 3 versioning is done at the driver package level for pnp install,
> not at the binary level, so export drives are versioned by the containing
> pnp driver package that installs it
>
>
>
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:
> xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Driver Learner
> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:49 PM
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Question regarding export drivers
>
>
>
> Hello Gurus,
>
>
>
> I have few questions on export drivers.
>
> 1. Can an export driver also implement and act as regular driver?
>
> 2. If more than one driver uses the export driver, how should it
> be packaged for install?
>
> 3. How is versioning maintained for the export driver? Is it same
> as regular driver?
>
>
>
> My questions are in pure academic interest and maybe dumb. Please
> bear with me.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Chakri
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