RE: [NTDEV][WINXP]Cherry bombs, Verifier and XP ...

What the heck? Is every driver developer a wannabe demolition-man? I must
say that the final scene of “Fight Club” did evoke fond memories of youthful
indiscretions and fantasies.

Mark Roddy
xxxxx@hollistech.com
www.hollistech.com
603 321 1032
WindowsNT Windows 2000 Consulting Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Everhart, Glenn (FUSA) [mailto:xxxxx@FirstUSA.com]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:27 PM
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Subject: [ntdev] RE: [NTDEV][WINXP]Cherry bombs, Verifier and XP …

Playing with chemicals was pretty popular in the Sputnik generation; my
friends fortunately never got hurt. Back then (1958-59) I got handed
a question of how to send 2 conversations on one RF frequency, thought up
a transmitter that boosted one conversation’s audio by 10KHz with a plate
modulated Hartley oscillator. The thing was nonlinear as h*** and while it
did indeed transmit (and receiver received) 2 conversations, it turned out
to be wonderful for jamming everything nearby from the low AM broadcast
band up to high VHF TV. It got so every time someone’s TV in the
neighborhood
developed some problem, they’d ask if I had been transmitting again.
Fortunately
I was never on too long at a time…

All of which shows kids are apt to play at the edges of permissible
behavior.

Sometimes I think cherry bombs, contact explosives (in small amounts!), and
radio transmitters would be less damaging than some of the sports du jour
such as DoS attacks…

Kids need some outlets…

Glenn Everhart
(reply to xxxxx@gce.com please)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:51 PM
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Subject: [ntdev] RE: [NTDEV][WINXP]Cherry bombs, Verifier and XP …

Not a very good cherry bomb if it went out. All of my cherry bombs had waxed
fuses and did quite well under water.

Of course, I always thought I could make a better “cracker” than those for
sale at ‘South of the Border’, so I set out to make the ultimate “cracker”.

  • Steel box (about the size of a packet of cigs).
  • small hole (large enough to fill it with the powder from 5 16 gauge
    shells).
  • What to do with the buck-shot? Pour that in too to create shrapnel.
  • Insert a long fuse in the hole.
  • Wrapped the box in a whole roll of duct tape to cap the hole.

Well, I lit it and the fuse burned a perfect exhaust hole through the tape.
Remember those flowering “crackers” than spin on the ground making all sorts
of colors? Well, this puppy was that plus some (10 fold).

When that baby got lit, it took off in the air sponging and whistling… All
the while spraying buck-shot all over the place. Panic issued, people
ducking. I think I hid behind the large BBQ in the back yard until it was
over. Windows broken, doors with holes; needless to say, my parents we none
too happy.

Sometimes I feel the same when debugging some of my drivers.

Jamey

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Gary Little
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:01 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] [NTDEV][WINXP]Cherry bombs, Verifier and XP …

When I was a kid in the '50s, growing up among the mesquite trees in West
Texas, every summer us kids would look forward to the 4th of
July. We’d plan
on how we’d use the firecrackers, that’s what we called fire
works, to blow
up this or that, or scare someone. And there was always talk of how to get
the super bango boomer … the atomic bomb … those little round balls of
concentrated destruction. The one’s that rumor said some high
school student
used to blow out every toilette in the high school. Oh yeah! A
Cherry bomb!

Well one year we got one of those Cherry Bombs. Oh man were we gonna make
some noise. We had it all planned. Yup, we were gonna blow up some
toilettes. Damn straight! Gushers of water would inundate that little town
of Andrews, Texas. We huddled over that white throne, placing the bomb on
the toilette seat … lighting the match … setting it to the fuse …
tipping it … flushing the commode and then running like hell so we
wouldn’t get drowned…

There was no bang … Andrews never recorded the great flood of
'56, and we
learned about disappointment, and that lit fuses and water don’t mix.

Disappointment continues into the middle age years when you dutifully
install Whistler, build 2462, to catch some bugs. Yessir … I was gonna
stomp a big gushy one … but the fuse on my cherry bomb hit the water and
fizzled. I told WinDbg to break into the target … went to the command
window … typed in “!verifier 0xf” and watched the fuse go out when
verifier replied

“8017ee20: Unable to get verifier list”

Windows XP, Whistler build 2462
Global flag Pool Tagging enabled
Driver Verifier enabled settings
Special pool
Pool tracking
Force IRQL checking
Deadlock detection

Why can’t verifier find it’s own “verifier list”? There are times
> when I hate computers.
>
> (Hey … I could have just gotten on and bitched.)
>
> Gary
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