Re: How to share storage device on logical block acce- ss level?

First, its a hard problem. Second, a good NAS box does the same thing,
without the problem of a truly scalable distributed lock manager.

-----Original Message-----
From: Smith, Joel [mailto:xxxxx@ntpsoftware.com]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:37 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Re: How to share storage device on logical block acce ss
level?

Why, do you suppose, is there no commercial cluster file system for
Windows? It there something in the design of the OS that precludes the
development of a true cluster FS (perhaps this is intimated by your last
paragraph) or is there simply no commercial market for such a thing?

-Joel

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@veritas.com [mailto:xxxxx@veritas.com
mailto:xxxxx ]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:17 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Re: How to share storage device on logical block access
level?

On 02/21/02, ““Anton Kolomyeytsev” ” wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a storage device (hard disk) that is accessable from more then one
> machine in the same time (let’s assume it’s a SCSI hard disk on shared
> SCSI
> bus). While the device is only readen everything is OK, but how can I make

> this device writable by more then one client in the same time? How to keep

> the file caches consistant? Any ideas? Anybody works with clusters here?
> File system drive will not work I need to use existing one (maybe modified

> with filter driver but I’d prefer not to do so…)
>
> Regards,
> Anton
>
> P.S. For now I do store the written data in the different space so the
> hard
> disk is “partially shared”. Only the data that was never touched by
> writing.
>
> —
I worked on “Digital Clusters for Windows NT” several years ago, and we
determined that there was no simple answer. Thus we developed the
“sequential sharing” model for shared SCSI disk usage, which MSCS still
uses today. At any given time, only one node is allowed to access a shared
disk.

Many other people have replied, but only Andy Champ has given you a clue
about the answer. The answer is - you can’t do it without a true cluster
filesystem, running on all computers sharing the disk, and communicating
with each other. Other operating systems have achieved this in the past
(the classic is DEC’s VMS Clusters, released in 1984). But as of today, no
commercial cluster filesytem has been released for NT.

You could not get the right results with a simple filter driver, and might
even have troubles with a full filesytstem driver too, since the NT cache
manager is also involved in writing to disk.

Good luck!
Carl Appellof
VERITAS Software Global Corporation


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