Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?)

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1

I’ve got hardware that for legacy reasons I have to support. I have 2 versions of a driver for it that needs to be enhanced, one version written with the older DDK (like 4 years ago) that just goes out and steps on pretty much whatever the NT PnP layer does. I’ve got another version that has a patched version of DriverWorks that supposedly works. I’m not thrilled with the concept of using a patched version of DriverWorks and I’m not thrilled with the older driver’s approach either. What else is there? Is there any other approach/toolchain? Is the ISA PnP stuff in the newer version of the DDk any better (for NT4) than it used to be? Does it work?

Any comments or advice would be appreciated.

(Maybe I ought to renam this thread …

Thanks,

John

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:53 PM
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Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?

PnP on NT40 ? For compatibilty reasons ? What do you want do to ?

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:33 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?

> If one wants to do ISA PnP on WinNT 4 (don’t ask why it has to do with
compatibility, etc.) What’s the best choice? DriverWorks? Does anything
else support ISA PnP on WinNT 4?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:36 PM
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I don’t believe the hardware you describe is PnP. At least that is my
impression. In which case, all you needs is a legacy ISA driver. Given the
driver was written for NT4 it never was PNP since NT4 does not support PNP.
You can give an ISA driver in 2k some PNP like features by defining the
LogConfig in the INF file and providing some resource definitions.

If you define a legacy ISA driver Power management will disallow a lot of
things, but that may not be an issue. I am not sure if the same holds true
when you use the PNPISA interface type. But again, your older ISA driver
probably didn’t have power management issues anyway.

–
Gary G. Little
Have Computer, Will Travel …
909-698-3191
909-551-2105

“Miramonti, John” wrote in message
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I’ve got hardware that for legacy reasons I have to support. I have 2
versions of a driver for it that needs to be enhanced, one version written
with the older DDK (like 4 years ago) that just goes out and steps on pretty
much whatever the NT PnP layer does. I’ve got another version that has a
patched version of DriverWorks that supposedly works. I’m not thrilled with
the concept of using a patched version of DriverWorks and I’m not thrilled
with the older driver’s approach either. What else is there? Is there any
other approach/toolchain? Is the ISA PnP stuff in the newer version of the
DDk any better (for NT4) than it used to be? Does it work?

Any comments or advice would be appreciated.

(Maybe I ought to renam this thread …

Thanks,

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:53 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?

PnP on NT40 ? For compatibilty reasons ? What do you want do to ?

----- Original Message -----
From: “Miramonti, John”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:33 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?

> If one wants to do ISA PnP on WinNT 4 (don’t ask why it has to do with
compatibility, etc.) What’s the best choice? DriverWorks? Does anything
else support ISA PnP on WinNT 4?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:36 PM
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> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?
>
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Trust me it’s PnP. And NT does supported a limited amount of PnP ISA (that’s what the PNPISA driver is for!) Power management is not an issue for this application.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary G. Little [mailto:xxxxx@aerosurf.net]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:45 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
Jungo WinDriver?)

I don’t believe the hardware you describe is PnP. At least that is my
impression. In which case, all you needs is a legacy ISA driver. Given the
driver was written for NT4 it never was PNP since NT4 does not support PNP.
You can give an ISA driver in 2k some PNP like features by defining the
LogConfig in the INF file and providing some resource definitions.

If you define a legacy ISA driver Power management will disallow a lot of
things, but that may not be an issue. I am not sure if the same holds true
when you use the PNPISA interface type. But again, your older ISA driver
probably didn’t have power management issues anyway.

–
Gary G. Little
Have Computer, Will Travel …
909-698-3191
909-551-2105

“Miramonti, John” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…

I’ve got hardware that for legacy reasons I have to support. I have 2
versions of a driver for it that needs to be enhanced, one version written
with the older DDK (like 4 years ago) that just goes out and steps on pretty
much whatever the NT PnP layer does. I’ve got another version that has a
patched version of DriverWorks that supposedly works. I’m not thrilled with
the concept of using a patched version of DriverWorks and I’m not thrilled
with the older driver’s approach either. What else is there? Is there any
other approach/toolchain? Is the ISA PnP stuff in the newer version of the
DDk any better (for NT4) than it used to be? Does it work?

Any comments or advice would be appreciated.

(Maybe I ought to renam this thread …

Thanks,

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:53 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?

PnP on NT40 ? For compatibilty reasons ? What do you want do to ?

----- Original Message -----
From: “Miramonti, John”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:33 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?

> If one wants to do ISA PnP on WinNT 4 (don’t ask why it has to do with
compatibility, etc.) What’s the best choice? DriverWorks? Does anything
else support ISA PnP on WinNT 4?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: christopher tsui [mailto:xxxxx@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:36 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?
>
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NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on
NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of
drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are
still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.

Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a little
help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch files that
wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the OSR web site
) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
development
time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds, and probably a
fall back to the native DDK functions… )

You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of building
drivers within Visual Studio environments.

5

Lot’s here…hmmm. Again, we’re not concerned with W2K/XP, I know we can do it there.

  • Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?

  • does it support PnP ISA?

  • Does Oney’s wizard support PnP ISA on WinNT 4? (Where do I get it to see?)

  • DriverWorks advertises that they do, and they sort of do, but pieces are broken, hence the patches we put in (with the DriverWorks people’s help).

  • Since no one else has responded, my guess is that nothing has changed, and it’s the same choice, (in other words I’ll continue with the patched DriverWorks or the cobbled PnP code I’ve already got).

  • I am interested in building drivers inside the 'Studio, but I’ll tackle that after I answer this question. Thanks.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@Compaqnet.be]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:44 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
Jungo WinDriver?)

NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on
NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of
drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are
still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.

Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a little
help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch files that
wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the OSR web site
) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
development
time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds, and probably a
fall back to the native DDK functions… )

You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of building
drivers within Visual Studio environments.

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6

WDM is only supported on 2k and beyond. NT4 uses old style non-PNP
device drivers.

As far as I remember, NT4 has no ISAPNP support. You need the BIOS to
assign resources to your device and your driver needs to either know
where to look (through some means of your own - registry setting,
ntdetect knows your type of device and reports it in the hardware tree
somehow, etc…) or it needs to probe about the system looking for a
controller and claim the resources for it.

Your guess that “nothing has changed” is accurate.

-p

-----Original Message-----
From: Miramonti, John [mailto:xxxxx@livco.com]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:50 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List

Lot’s here…hmmm. Again, we’re not concerned with W2K/XP, I know we
can do it there.

  • Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?

  • does it support PnP ISA?

  • Does Oney’s wizard support PnP ISA on WinNT 4? (Where do I get it to
    see?)

  • DriverWorks advertises that they do, and they sort of do, but pieces
    are broken, hence the patches we put in (with the DriverWorks people’s
    help).

  • Since no one else has responded, my guess is that nothing has changed,
    and it’s the same choice, (in other words I’ll continue with the patched
    DriverWorks or the cobbled PnP code I’ve already got).

  • I am interested in building drivers inside the 'Studio, but I’ll
    tackle that after I answer this question. Thanks.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@Compaqnet.be]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:44 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
Jungo WinDriver?)

NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on NT40,
are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of drivers
must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are still
supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.

Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a
little help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch
files that wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the
OSR web site
) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
development time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds,
and probably a fall back to the native DDK functions… )

You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of
building drivers within Visual Studio environments.

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7

Let’s summarize :

  • there is NO newer NT40 DDK
  • there is NO support for PnP ISA or WDM on NT40 ( unless you “read” the
    PnPPorts sample which is just a CPL applet )
    Just give me the name of a “DriverWorks” sample for NT40 that supports PnP
    .
  • Oney’s wizard supports at least theWDM

----- Original Message -----
From: “Miramonti, John”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or Jungo
WinDriver?)

> Lot’s here…hmmm. Again, we’re not concerned with W2K/XP, I know we can
do it there.
>
> - Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?
> - does it support PnP ISA?
>
> - Does Oney’s wizard support PnP ISA on WinNT 4? (Where do I get it to
see?)
> - DriverWorks advertises that they do, and they sort of do, but pieces are
broken, hence the patches we put in (with the DriverWorks people’s help).
>
> - Since no one else has responded, my guess is that nothing has changed,
and it’s the same choice, (in other words I’ll continue with the patched
DriverWorks or the cobbled PnP code I’ve already got).
>
> - I am interested in building drivers inside the 'Studio, but I’ll tackle
that after I answer this question. Thanks.
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@Compaqnet.be]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:44 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> Jungo WinDriver?)
>
>
>
> NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
> Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on
> NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of
> drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are
> still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.
>
> Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a little
> help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch files that
> wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the OSR web site
> ) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
> party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
> functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
> development
> time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds, and probably a
> fall back to the native DDK functions… )
>
> You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of building
> drivers within Visual Studio environments.
>
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8

OK, I think I have the communication trouble :
Numega supports a private “Device Access Architecture” (DAA) that claims to
enable
to write the same code for WDM and NT40 legacy stuff ( and even al the
rest ). Has
someone experience with that exotic animal ?

----- Original Message -----
From: “Miramonti, John”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or Jungo
WinDriver?)

> Lot’s here…hmmm. Again, we’re not concerned with W2K/XP, I know we can
do it there.
>
> - Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?
> - does it support PnP ISA?
>
> - Does Oney’s wizard support PnP ISA on WinNT 4? (Where do I get it to
see?)
> - DriverWorks advertises that they do, and they sort of do, but pieces are
broken, hence the patches we put in (with the DriverWorks people’s help).
>
> - Since no one else has responded, my guess is that nothing has changed,
and it’s the same choice, (in other words I’ll continue with the patched
DriverWorks or the cobbled PnP code I’ve already got).
>
> - I am interested in building drivers inside the 'Studio, but I’ll tackle
that after I answer this question. Thanks.
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@Compaqnet.be]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:44 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> Jungo WinDriver?)
>
>
>
> NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
> Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on
> NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of
> drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are
> still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.
>
> Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a little
> help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch files that
> wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the OSR web site
> ) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
> party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
> functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
> development
> time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds, and probably a
> fall back to the native DDK functions… )
>
> You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of building
> drivers within Visual Studio environments.
>
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9

No … NT4 doesn’t. The interface you mention is WDM and WDM was not
incorporated into the NT code base until Windows 2000. Looks like we have a
semantics problem. Yes 2000 and XP have versions of 5 and 5.1, but when y0ou
use the NT on this group, it means NT4.

–
Gary G. Little
Have Computer, Will Travel …
909-698-3191
909-551-2105

“Miramonti, John” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…

Trust me it’s PnP. And NT does supported a limited amount of PnP ISA (that’s
what the PNPISA driver is for!) Power management is not an issue for this
application.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary G. Little [mailto:xxxxx@aerosurf.net]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:45 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
Jungo WinDriver?)

I don’t believe the hardware you describe is PnP. At least that is my
impression. In which case, all you needs is a legacy ISA driver. Given the
driver was written for NT4 it never was PNP since NT4 does not support PNP.
You can give an ISA driver in 2k some PNP like features by defining the
LogConfig in the INF file and providing some resource definitions.

If you define a legacy ISA driver Power management will disallow a lot of
things, but that may not be an issue. I am not sure if the same holds true
when you use the PNPISA interface type. But again, your older ISA driver
probably didn’t have power management issues anyway.

–
Gary G. Little
Have Computer, Will Travel …
909-698-3191
909-551-2105

“Miramonti, John” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…

I’ve got hardware that for legacy reasons I have to support. I have 2
versions of a driver for it that needs to be enhanced, one version written
with the older DDK (like 4 years ago) that just goes out and steps on pretty
much whatever the NT PnP layer does. I’ve got another version that has a
patched version of DriverWorks that supposedly works. I’m not thrilled with
the concept of using a patched version of DriverWorks and I’m not thrilled
with the older driver’s approach either. What else is there? Is there any
other approach/toolchain? Is the ISA PnP stuff in the newer version of the
DDk any better (for NT4) than it used to be? Does it work?

Any comments or advice would be appreciated.

(Maybe I ought to renam this thread …

Thanks,

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:53 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?

PnP on NT40 ? For compatibilty reasons ? What do you want do to ?

----- Original Message -----
From: “Miramonti, John”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:33 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?

> If one wants to do ISA PnP on WinNT 4 (don’t ask why it has to do with
compatibility, etc.) What’s the best choice? DriverWorks? Does anything
else support ISA PnP on WinNT 4?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: christopher tsui [mailto:xxxxx@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:36 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?
>
>
> Just use the DDK.
>
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NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
Drivers that supported devices that were automaticallly
detected on NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind
of drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although
legacy drivers are still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to
use WDM.

Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a little
help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or
batch files that wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at
the OSR web site ) that allows comfortable programming
in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third party librairies are always wrappers of
existing, documented driver functions. They will speed up
coding, but slow down the overall development time when problems occur (
support requests , work arounds, and probably a
fall back to the native DDK functions… )

You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of building
drivers within Visual Studio environments.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Miramonti, John”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:17 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or Jungo
WinDriver?)

> I’ve got hardware that for legacy reasons I have to support. I have 2
versions of a driver for it that needs to be enhanced, one version written
with the older DDK (like 4 years ago) that just goes out and steps on pretty
much whatever the NT PnP layer does. I’ve got another version that has a
patched version of DriverWorks that supposedly works. I’m not thrilled with
the concept of using a patched version of DriverWorks and I’m not thrilled
with the older driver’s approach either. What else is there? Is there any
other approach/toolchain? Is the ISA PnP stuff in the newer version of the
DDk any better (for NT4) than it used to be? Does it work?
>
> Any comments or advice would be appreciated.
>
> (Maybe I ought to renam this thread …
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:53 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Numega DriverWorks or Jungo WinDriver?
>
>
>
> PnP on NT40 ? For compatibilty reasons ? What do you want do to ?
>
>
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> > If one wants to do ISA PnP on WinNT 4 (don’t ask why it has to do with
> compatibility, etc.) What’s the best choice? DriverWorks? Does anything
> else support ISA PnP on WinNT 4?
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> > Thanks,
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> > John
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> > Just use the DDK.
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>- Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?

No. WDM is supported on 98, 98SE, Me, w2k, XP and .NET betas only.

  • does it support PnP ISA?

Yes. But, since NT4 is not WDM OS, no decent ISAPnP support on NT4.

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