Re: 3rd party Device driver development tool or pure - wdm driver development..Which is the bes

As one example of Forth’s extreme power is the staggering number of operating
systems, device drivers, applications, other languages, utility software, and
countless other commercially available programs written in it. Oops, no, I’m
sorry, that’s C. :wink:

Regards,

Paul Bunn, UltraBac.com, 425-644-6000
Microsoft MVP - WindowsNT/2000
http://www.ultrabac.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Moreira, Alberto [mailto:xxxxx@compuware.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:25 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: 3rd party Device driver development tool or pure
wdm driver development…Which is the best???

If you step through code to debug Forth, you deserve what you get. Forth is
the most powerful language out there, hands down, period - but it requires a
total repositioning of one’s thought processes. Forth, like Lisp, is one of
those few languages that allow you to compile code on the fly, run it, and
discard it. It’s dynamic binding in its extreme incarnation!

Alberto.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Little [mailto:xxxxx@Broadstor.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:06 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: 3rd party Device driver development tool or pure
wdm driver development…Which is the best???

Yeah … any one here ever stepped through assembly to debug a FORTH
program? How many times do I have to go through ReadNextInstruction!!!

Gary G. Little
Staff Engineer
Broadband Storage, Inc.
xxxxx@broadstor.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Young [mailto:xxxxx@youngendeavors.com]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:41 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: 3rd party Device driver development tool or pure wdm
driver development…Which is the best???

I really have to disagree with you on this one. Debugging C++ can be a real
PITA. Debuggers need to be much more sophisticated to deal with things like
inheritance in C++. Having to drill down though several layers of
abstraction in order to find the value of an inherited variable is not my
idea of easy.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Moreira, Alberto
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:21 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: 3rd party Device driver development tool or pure
wdm driver development…Which is the best???

Let me plug in my own here :slight_smile:

…As for debugging, you’re going to have to do it anyway, and debugging
other
people’s code can be hard - call it DDK or class library, it’s the same. But
debugging C++ is a lot easier than debugging C code…


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