Just an FYI, a new Win7 beta WDK is available (along with Win7 free and
checked builds) on MSDN downloads. I put Windows 7 in the search box and it
took me to the right place.
Jan
I received a message today about Win7, Client and Server, being available on the connect site too. I saw the WDK, SDK, symbols, free, checked, release notes, and language packs.
“Jan Bottorff” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
Just an FYI, a new Win7 beta WDK is available (along with Win7 free and checked builds) on MSDN downloads. I put Windows 7 in the search box and it took me to the right place.
Jan
> Just an FYI, a new Win7 beta WDK is available (along with
Win7 free and checked builds) on MSDN downloads. I put
Windows 7 in the search box and it took me to the right
place.
Hi Jan,
Because I was downloading WDK and its corresponding tools, they sent me a mail and the link took me to Microsoft Connect “Windows Ecosystem Home”. Almost everything are there - Free/Checked build of OS, WDK and debugging symbols… etc
Best regards,
WH Tan
> -----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
xxxxx@gmail.com
Sent: 08 January 2009 08:10
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads nowBecause I was downloading WDK and its corresponding tools,
they sent me a mail and the link took me to Microsoft Connect
“Windows Ecosystem Home”. Almost everything are there -
Free/Checked build of OS, WDK and debugging symbols… etc
… and WLK v1.3 which will let you WHQL test on Windows 7 Beta.
Tim Green
Development Engineer
DisplayLink (UK) Limited
Registered in England No. 04811048
> Just an FYI, a new Win7 beta WDK is available…
And in additional to that, it looks like Windows Server 2008 R2 Beta is released on MSDN as well.
WH Tan
Let me preface by saying that I have not tried to install the publicly
released version of the WDK yet, but I had all kinds of problems
installing both the (DDC) 6801.0 WDK and the 7000 WDK before was
publicly available, and I know of at least two other people who have had
similar issues.
In a nutshell, there’s a new installer, and on my dev machine, it failed
and in a recurring msft story, corrupted pretty much every msft product
that I had installed - basically Office, Visual Studio and everything
that uses the godforsaken Document Explorer. The result was is that
Windows reports them as not installed correctly, but I also couldn’t
repair them via the control panel, and when I tried to reinstall things
like the 6001 or reinstall Office from the DVD, those failed as well,
because Windows reports that I have a more recent version installed.
So, I had to uninstall everything, and that created different problems,
which I don’t think that I can fix without reinstalling Windows.
So, I would personally not recommend installing it on a dev machine,
until there’s some feedback that all is well with the public version of
the installer, which very well could have changed since I last tried
(not all that long ago). I would instead install it on more expendable
machine, like a target, tar it up, copy it and extract it. This will
not (I think) install the documentation correctly, but everything else
will work, including Office.
I believe that the root cause of the problem is that installer
bootstraps a new version of .NET, which causes problems due to
versioning, if you can believe that, and when this gets screwed up,
everything else MSFT fails.
Two words - static linking.
My two cents,
mm
Jan Bottorff wrote:
Just an FYI, a new Win7 beta WDK is available (along with Win7 free and
checked builds) on MSDN downloads. I put Windows 7 in the search box and
it took me to the right place.Jan
I actually got early access to the 7000 WDK, and had no problems other than
it would not install while WinDBG was running, and that it has a superset of
the WinDBG install problems. But I had no problems with it on my dev
machine and have been using it extensively for a couple of weeks.
–
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
“Martin O’Brien” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Let me preface by saying that I have not tried to install the publicly
> released version of the WDK yet, but I had all kinds of problems
> installing both the (DDC) 6801.0 WDK and the 7000 WDK before was publicly
> available, and I know of at least two other people who have had similar
> issues.
>
> In a nutshell, there’s a new installer, and on my dev machine, it failed
> and in a recurring msft story, corrupted pretty much every msft product
> that I had installed - basically Office, Visual Studio and everything that
> uses the godforsaken Document Explorer. The result was is that Windows
> reports them as not installed correctly, but I also couldn’t repair them
> via the control panel, and when I tried to reinstall things like the 6001
> or reinstall Office from the DVD, those failed as well, because Windows
> reports that I have a more recent version installed. So, I had to
> uninstall everything, and that created different problems, which I don’t
> think that I can fix without reinstalling Windows.
>
> So, I would personally not recommend installing it on a dev machine, until
> there’s some feedback that all is well with the public version of the
> installer, which very well could have changed since I last tried (not all
> that long ago). I would instead install it on more expendable machine,
> like a target, tar it up, copy it and extract it. This will not (I think)
> install the documentation correctly, but everything else will work,
> including Office.
>
> I believe that the root cause of the problem is that installer bootstraps
> a new version of .NET, which causes problems due to versioning, if you
> can believe that, and when this gets screwed up, everything else MSFT
> fails.
>
> Two words - static linking.
>
> My two cents,
>
> mm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jan Bottorff wrote:
>> Just an FYI, a new Win7 beta WDK is available (along with Win7 free and
>> checked builds) on MSDN downloads. I put Windows 7 in the search box and
>> it took me to the right place.
>> Jan
>
I wish I could say the same. I only know a handful of people that have
reported results either way, but as they have been mixed, I thought I’d
post a warning, but I’d certainly be more than happy to be wrong or
overreacting.
mm
Don Burn wrote:
I actually got early access to the 7000 WDK, and had no problems other than
it would not install while WinDBG was running, and that it has a superset of
the WinDBG install problems. But I had no problems with it on my dev
machine and have been using it extensively for a couple of weeks.
>But I had no problems with it on my dev machine and have been using it
extensively for a couple of weeks.
I must be cursed then, I’m currently sitting in WDK limbo. The 7000 WDK
doesn’t like me enough to install (gets to step 5 of 116 and then undoes
itself) and 6801 likes me too much and won’t uninstall. I have pretty much
every D/WDK from NT 3.51 on installed on my workstation and this is the
first time I’ve had an issue.
Working on getting it sorted out, hopefully there’s some kind of resolution
that will help others.
-scott
–
Scott Noone
Software Engineer
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osronline.com
“Don Burn” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>I actually got early access to the 7000 WDK, and had no problems other than
>it would not install while WinDBG was running, and that it has a superset
>of the WinDBG install problems. But I had no problems with it on my dev
>machine and have been using it extensively for a couple of weeks.
>
>
> –
> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> Website: http://www.windrvr.com
> Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
>
>
>
>
> “Martin O’Brien” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>> Let me preface by saying that I have not tried to install the publicly
>> released version of the WDK yet, but I had all kinds of problems
>> installing both the (DDC) 6801.0 WDK and the 7000 WDK before was publicly
>> available, and I know of at least two other people who have had similar
>> issues.
>>
>> In a nutshell, there’s a new installer, and on my dev machine, it failed
>> and in a recurring msft story, corrupted pretty much every msft product
>> that I had installed - basically Office, Visual Studio and everything
>> that uses the godforsaken Document Explorer. The result was is that
>> Windows reports them as not installed correctly, but I also couldn’t
>> repair them via the control panel, and when I tried to reinstall things
>> like the 6001 or reinstall Office from the DVD, those failed as well,
>> because Windows reports that I have a more recent version installed. So,
>> I had to uninstall everything, and that created different problems, which
>> I don’t think that I can fix without reinstalling Windows.
>>
>> So, I would personally not recommend installing it on a dev machine,
>> until there’s some feedback that all is well with the public version of
>> the installer, which very well could have changed since I last tried (not
>> all that long ago). I would instead install it on more expendable
>> machine, like a target, tar it up, copy it and extract it. This will not
>> (I think) install the documentation correctly, but everything else will
>> work, including Office.
>>
>> I believe that the root cause of the problem is that installer bootstraps
>> a new version of .NET, which causes problems due to versioning, if you
>> can believe that, and when this gets screwed up, everything else MSFT
>> fails.
>>
>> Two words - static linking.
>>
>> My two cents,
>>
>> mm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jan Bottorff wrote:
>>> Just an FYI, a new Win7 beta WDK is available (along with Win7 free and
>>> checked builds) on MSDN downloads. I put Windows 7 in the search box and
>>> it took me to the right place.
>>> Jan
>>
>
>
>
For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having. We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have installation issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta alias.
> -----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
xxxxx@microsoft.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:40 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads nowI apologize for the installation issues that some people are
having. We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While
you should be able to install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta
WDK (7000) on the same machine (I have), it seems to be
causing some people problems, so I would recommend
uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000.
Would you also recommend to uninstall 6924?
Till now I didn’t have any issue with coexistence of several Win7 WDKs
at one machine. The only real issue is with WinDbg as every Win7 WDK
installation resists on uninstallation of it and then it reinstalls the
same version again. I guess I already reported it but I’m not quite
sure.
Best regards,
Michal Vodicka
UPEK, Inc.
[xxxxx@upek.com, http://www.upek.com]
What I want to do is:
- install the wdk on a system_a at c:\ddk\7000
- zip it, say “tar -czf ddk7000.tar.gz c:\ddk\7000” on system_A.
- unzip it, say tar -xzf ddk7000.tar.gz to system_B where system_b has never seen the install cd.
I want to be able compile drivers from system_B. I don’t care doc, samples, windbg or dot net. All I need is the compiler and libs and headers. It’s been working for all ddks but the win7 ones (because of the code review thingy). I doesn’t work even I ask nicely “no review please” in the setenv command line. Has anyone gotten it going that way?
thanks,
Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
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Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:39:30 AM
Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having. We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have installation issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta alias.
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Do you mean OACR?
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What I want to do is:
- install the wdk on a system_a at c:\ddk\7000
- zip it, say “tar -czf ddk7000.tar.gz c:\ddk\7000” on system_A.
- unzip it, say tar -xzf ddk7000.tar.gz to system_B where system_b has never seen the install cd.
I want to be able compile drivers from system_B. I don’t care doc, samples, windbg or dot net. All I need is the compiler and libs and headers. It’s been working for all ddks but the win7 ones (because of the code review thingy). I doesn’t work even I ask nicely “no review please” in the setenv command line. Has anyone gotten it going that way?
thanks,
Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
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Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:39:30 AM
Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having. We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have installation issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta alias.
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Exactly. How do I shut it off?
Thanks,
Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 1:43:32 PM
Subject: RE: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
Do you mean OACR?
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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:42 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
What I want to do is:
1) install the wdk on a system_a at c:\ddk\7000
2) zip it, say “tar -czf ddk7000.tar.gz c:\ddk\7000” on system_A.
3) unzip it, say tar -xzf ddk7000.tar.gz to system_B where system_b has never seen the install cd.
I want to be able compile drivers from system_B. I don’t care doc, samples, windbg or dot net. All I need is the compiler and libs and headers. It’s been working for all ddks but the win7 ones (because of the code review thingy). I doesn’t work even I ask nicely “no review please” in the setenv command line. Has anyone gotten it going that way?
thanks,
–
Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
----- Original Message ----
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To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:39:30 AM
Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having. We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have installation issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta alias.
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Calvin,
It is hard to find in the doc’s you have to search for OACR.
Basically there are ini files in the OACR directory in the WDK that you can
use to turn it off, or you can modify the shortcut to start the build
with -noacr on the setenv arguments.
The problem with these approaches is that if you are like me an use a
number of environments, you are changing a ton of properties, and more
important I have customers who want development to be done on a terminal
server system with shared development environments, where it is “illegal to
change the WDK as loaded”. I don’t object to such logic since I normally
set my WDK directories to read only, since I worked at one point for a
company where if you modified the build environment you were fired for
cause.
For the above environments, the snooze option over on the tool tray is
the only way, but having to do it every hour is enough for me scream. If I
was first exposed to PreFast with OACR enabled, I would be denouncing it as
some the worst stuff out there.
–
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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“Calvin Guan” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Exactly. How do I shut it off?
>
> Thanks,
> –
> Calvin Guan
> Broadcom Corp.
> Connecting Everything(r)
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Doron Holan
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 1:43:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> Do you mean OACR?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Calvin Guan
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:42 PM
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Subject: Re: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> What I want to do is:
> 1) install the wdk on a system_a at c:\ddk\7000
> 2) zip it, say “tar -czf ddk7000.tar.gz c:\ddk\7000” on system_A.
> 3) unzip it, say tar -xzf ddk7000.tar.gz to system_B where system_b has
> never seen the install cd.
>
> I want to be able compile drivers from system_B. I don’t care doc,
> samples, windbg or dot net. All I need is the compiler and libs and
> headers. It’s been working for all ddks but the win7 ones (because of the
> code review thingy). I doesn’t work even I ask nicely “no review please”
> in the setenv command line. Has anyone gotten it going that way?
>
> thanks,
> –
> Calvin Guan
> Broadcom Corp.
> Connecting Everything(r)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: “xxxxx@microsoft.com”
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:39:30 AM
> Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and
> especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please
> send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an
> invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
>
> I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having.
> We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to
> install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I
> have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend
> uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have installation
> issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we
> can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta
> alias.
>
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-nooacr on the cmd line when starting the build env
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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:55 PM
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Exactly. How do I shut it off?
Thanks,
Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 1:43:32 PM
Subject: RE: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
Do you mean OACR?
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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:42 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
What I want to do is:
1) install the wdk on a system_a at c:\ddk\7000
2) zip it, say “tar -czf ddk7000.tar.gz c:\ddk\7000” on system_A.
3) unzip it, say tar -xzf ddk7000.tar.gz to system_B where system_b has never seen the install cd.
I want to be able compile drivers from system_B. I don’t care doc, samples, windbg or dot net. All I need is the compiler and libs and headers. It’s been working for all ddks but the win7 ones (because of the code review thingy). I doesn’t work even I ask nicely “no review please” in the setenv command line. Has anyone gotten it going that way?
thanks,
–
Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
----- Original Message ----
From: “xxxxx@microsoft.com”
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:39:30 AM
Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having. We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have installation issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta alias.
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Don,
This is OT but if you set the WDK directories to RO how so you get prefast
to work?
Bill Wandel
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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]
On Behalf Of Don Burn
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:13 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
Calvin,
It is hard to find in the doc’s you have to search for OACR.
Basically there are ini files in the OACR directory in the WDK that you can
use to turn it off, or you can modify the shortcut to start the build with
-noacr on the setenv arguments.
The problem with these approaches is that if you are like me an use a
number of environments, you are changing a ton of properties, and more
important I have customers who want development to be done on a terminal
server system with shared development environments, where it is “illegal to
change the WDK as loaded”. I don’t object to such logic since I normally
set my WDK directories to read only, since I worked at one point for a
company where if you modified the build environment you were fired for
cause.
For the above environments, the snooze option over on the tool tray is
the only way, but having to do it every hour is enough for me scream. If I
was first exposed to PreFast with OACR enabled, I would be denouncing it as
some the worst stuff out there.
–
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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“Calvin Guan” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Exactly. How do I shut it off?
>
> Thanks,
> –
> Calvin Guan
> Broadcom Corp.
> Connecting Everything(r)
>
>
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Doron Holan
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 1:43:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> Do you mean OACR?
>
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> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Calvin Guan
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:42 PM
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Subject: Re: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> What I want to do is:
> 1) install the wdk on a system_a at c:\ddk\7000
> 2) zip it, say “tar -czf ddk7000.tar.gz c:\ddk\7000” on system_A.
> 3) unzip it, say tar -xzf ddk7000.tar.gz to system_B where system_b has
> never seen the install cd.
>
> I want to be able compile drivers from system_B. I don’t care doc,
> samples, windbg or dot net. All I need is the compiler and libs and
> headers. It’s been working for all ddks but the win7 ones (because of the
> code review thingy). I doesn’t work even I ask nicely “no review please”
> in the setenv command line. Has anyone gotten it going that way?
>
> thanks,
> –
> Calvin Guan
> Broadcom Corp.
> Connecting Everything(r)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: “xxxxx@microsoft.com”
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:39:30 AM
> Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and
> especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please
> send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an
> invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
>
> I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having.
> We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to
> install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I
> have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend
> uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have installation
> issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we
> can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta
> alias.
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tried -nooacr as mentioned in the thread. but the “oacr process” still barfing and the build stopped. If the ddk was installed, it’s ok to move it to other dir afterward.
Let me try it again and post the exact failure message.
thanks,
Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
----- Original Message ----
From: Doron Holan
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Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 2:21:57 PM
Subject: RE: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
-nooacr on the cmd line when starting the build env
d
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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Calvin Guan
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
Exactly. How do I shut it off?
Thanks,
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Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
----- Original Message ----
From: Doron Holan
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 1:43:32 PM
Subject: RE: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
Do you mean OACR?
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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:42 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
What I want to do is:
1) install the wdk on a system_a at c:\ddk\7000
2) zip it, say “tar -czf ddk7000.tar.gz c:\ddk\7000” on system_A.
3) unzip it, say tar -xzf ddk7000.tar.gz to system_B where system_b has never seen the install cd.
I want to be able compile drivers from system_B. I don’t care doc, samples, windbg or dot net. All I need is the compiler and libs and headers. It’s been working for all ddks but the win7 ones (because of the code review thingy). I doesn’t work even I ask nicely “no review please” in the setenv command line. Has anyone gotten it going that way?
thanks,
–
Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
----- Original Message ----
From: “xxxxx@microsoft.com”
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:39:30 AM
Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having. We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have installation issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta alias.
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I have not tried it with the current version, but I have not had problems in
the past. I never build anything in the WDK directory area, I keep it
pure.
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Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
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Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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“Bill Wandel” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Don,
> This is OT but if you set the WDK directories to RO how so you get prefast
> to work?
>
> Bill Wandel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]
> On Behalf Of Don Burn
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:13 PM
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Subject: Re:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> Calvin,
>
> It is hard to find in the doc’s you have to search for OACR.
> Basically there are ini files in the OACR directory in the WDK that you
> can
> use to turn it off, or you can modify the shortcut to start the build with
> -noacr on the setenv arguments.
>
> The problem with these approaches is that if you are like me an use a
> number of environments, you are changing a ton of properties, and more
> important I have customers who want development to be done on a terminal
> server system with shared development environments, where it is “illegal
> to
> change the WDK as loaded”. I don’t object to such logic since I normally
> set my WDK directories to read only, since I worked at one point for a
> company where if you modified the build environment you were fired for
> cause.
>
> For the above environments, the snooze option over on the tool tray is
> the only way, but having to do it every hour is enough for me scream. If
> I
> was first exposed to PreFast with OACR enabled, I would be denouncing it
> as
> some the worst stuff out there.
>
>
> –
> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> Website: http://www.windrvr.com
> Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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> “Calvin Guan” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>> Exactly. How do I shut it off?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> –
>> Calvin Guan
>> Broadcom Corp.
>> Connecting Everything(r)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Doron Holan
>> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
>> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 1:43:32 PM
>> Subject: RE: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>>
>> Do you mean OACR?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Calvin Guan
>> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:42 PM
>> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
>> Subject: Re: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>>
>> What I want to do is:
>> 1) install the wdk on a system_a at c:\ddk\7000
>> 2) zip it, say “tar -czf ddk7000.tar.gz c:\ddk\7000” on system_A.
>> 3) unzip it, say tar -xzf ddk7000.tar.gz to system_B where system_b has
>> never seen the install cd.
>>
>> I want to be able compile drivers from system_B. I don’t care doc,
>> samples, windbg or dot net. All I need is the compiler and libs and
>> headers. It’s been working for all ddks but the win7 ones (because of the
>> code review thingy). I doesn’t work even I ask nicely “no review please”
>> in the setenv command line. Has anyone gotten it going that way?
>>
>> thanks,
>> –
>> Calvin Guan
>> Broadcom Corp.
>> Connecting Everything(r)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: “xxxxx@microsoft.com”
>> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
>> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:39:30 AM
>> Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>>
>> For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and
>> especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please
>> send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an
>> invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
>>
>> I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having.
>> We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to
>> install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I
>> have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend
>> uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have
>> installation
>
>> issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we
>> can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta
>> alias.
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>
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It works for all ddk but win7. In fact, all of my ddk are source-controlled by perforce, that implies all ddks are read-only. hence I quickly and accurately reproduce a build machine and any binary we built years ago. I believe build tools, environments are part of source necessary to create a repeatable product.
Calvin Guan
Broadcom Corp.
Connecting Everything(r)
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From: Bill Wandel
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 2:40:04 PM
Subject: RE: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
Don,
This is OT but if you set the WDK directories to RO how so you get prefast
to work?
Bill Wandel
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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]
On Behalf Of Don Burn
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:13 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
Calvin,
It is hard to find in the doc’s you have to search for OACR.
Basically there are ini files in the OACR directory in the WDK that you can
use to turn it off, or you can modify the shortcut to start the build with
-noacr on the setenv arguments.
The problem with these approaches is that if you are like me an use a
number of environments, you are changing a ton of properties, and more
important I have customers who want development to be done on a terminal
server system with shared development environments, where it is “illegal to
change the WDK as loaded”. I don’t object to such logic since I normally
set my WDK directories to read only, since I worked at one point for a
company where if you modified the build environment you were fired for
cause.
For the above environments, the snooze option over on the tool tray is
the only way, but having to do it every hour is enough for me scream. If I
was first exposed to PreFast with OACR enabled, I would be denouncing it as
some the worst stuff out there.
–
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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“Calvin Guan” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Exactly. How do I shut it off?
>
> Thanks,
> –
> Calvin Guan
> Broadcom Corp.
> Connecting Everything(r)
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Doron Holan
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 1:43:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> Do you mean OACR?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Calvin Guan
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:42 PM
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Subject: Re: [ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> What I want to do is:
> 1) install the wdk on a system_a at c:\ddk\7000
> 2) zip it, say “tar -czf ddk7000.tar.gz c:\ddk\7000” on system_A.
> 3) unzip it, say tar -xzf ddk7000.tar.gz to system_B where system_b has
> never seen the install cd.
>
> I want to be able compile drivers from system_B. I don’t care doc,
> samples, windbg or dot net. All I need is the compiler and libs and
> headers. It’s been working for all ddks but the win7 ones (because of the
> code review thingy). I doesn’t work even I ask nicely “no review please”
> in the setenv command line. Has anyone gotten it going that way?
>
> thanks,
> –
> Calvin Guan
> Broadcom Corp.
> Connecting Everything(r)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: “xxxxx@microsoft.com”
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:39:30 AM
> Subject: RE:[ntdev] New Win7 WDK and OS builds on MSDN downloads now
>
> For those who would like to participate in beta testing Windows 7 and
> especially the Windows 7 WDK, if you do not already have access, please
> send an email to wdkbeta at microsoft.com and I will send you an
> invitation to join the WDK Win7 beta program.
>
> I apologize for the installation issues that some people are having.
> We’re still trying to sort out the issues. While you should be able to
> install the M3 WDK (6801) and the Beta WDK (7000) on the same machine (I
> have), it seems to be causing some people problems, so I would recommend
> uninstalling 6801 before you install 7000. Also, if you have installation
> issues, PLEASE send us your install log (%TEMP%\wdk-kitsetup.log) so we
> can try to track down what went wrong. You can email it to the wdkbeta
> alias.
>
> —
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>
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