Hi,
Is there a way to dump memory to a file while in softice debugging session?
I tried to search around and read softice docs and no help.
After looking at this this post, I’m sure many people will respond to give
up the old softice 
I also know that that debug.exe may be able to
achieve the same debugging purpose.
But, please note I’m only looking for this approach in softice, if anybody
has done that in the past.
Thanks in advance!
Chandra
Use !dump command of IceExt
personally I would use the “rmdir /S /Q” command from the shell on the
softice directory, but that is just me.
Mark Roddy
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> Use !dump command of IceExt
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I’m using SoftIce for DOS. Is there a IceExt for DOS?
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Uh, are you working in a DOS system, not NT or higher?
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I’m using SoftIce for DOS. Is there a IceExt for DOS?
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Use !dump command of IceExt
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No. Mostly I work NT, no DOS. But, in this case I have to debug a boot
loader in 16-bit environment.
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Gary G. Little wrote:
> Uh, are you working in a DOS system, not NT or higher?
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> in this case I have to debug a boot loader in 16-bit environment.
What about using emulator like QEMU for this purpose - IIRC it supports Windows hosts. Probably if you combine it somehow with Cygwin you will be able to run QEMU with your code in one terminal window and
GDB in another, i.e. do the whole thing the way it gets done under Linux host. It seems to be easier than doing it right on a physical machine, don’t you think…
Anton Bassov
If you have access to an Arium, you could do it that way as well.
Good luck,
mm
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in this case I have to debug a boot loader in 16-bit environment.
What about using emulator like QEMU for this purpose - IIRC it supports
Windows hosts. Probably if you combine it somehow with Cygwin you will be
able to run QEMU with your code in one terminal window and GDB in another,
i.e. do the whole thing the way it gets done under Linux host. It seems to
be easier than doing it right on a physical machine, don’t you think…
Anton Bassov
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> If you have access to an Arium, you could do it that way as well.
Well, the beauty of QEMU is that if you have no access to it at the moment you can get the one right on the spot
without having to explain to your boss why you believe some extra tool has to be purchased.OTOH, I would not get surprized if Arium, by virtue of being a commercial product, offers more features than QEMU does…
Anton Bassov
Note that I said if you already have access to an Arium. Not sure that I’d
buy one just for this purpose.
What an Arium would offer one here are integrated debugging (as opposed to
QEMU by itself) and use of the actual machine BIOS v. QEMU’s particular
emulation which may be important in the case of a loader.
mm
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If you have access to an Arium, you could do it that way as well.
Well, the beauty of QEMU is that if you have no access to it at the moment
you can get the one right on the spot without having to explain to your boss
why you believe some extra tool has to be purchased.OTOH, I would not get
surprized if Arium, by virtue of being a commercial product, offers more
features than QEMU does…
Anton Bassov
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Get an Arium… Or an alternative (and, significantly less expensive) would be to try Bochs (http://bochs.sourceforge.net/).
We use an Arium to debug boot-time stuff here at OSR, but I *do* know folks who’ve very successfully used Bochs. It slow as HECK to get set up. But once you get it set up, they swear it’s pretty good to sue.
Peter
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Supposedly you can connect windbg to AMD’s AMD64 simulator.
mm
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Get an Arium… Or an alternative (and, significantly less expensive) would
be to try Bochs (http://bochs.sourceforge.net/).
We use an Arium to debug boot-time stuff here at OSR, but I *do* know folks
who’ve very successfully used Bochs. It slow as HECK to get set up. But
once you get it set up, they swear it’s pretty good to sue.
Peter
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Debugging windows qemu is rather awful. Mostly it is printf debug only.
Mark Roddy
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:56 PM, wrote:
> > in this case I have to debug a boot loader in 16-bit environment.
>
> What about using emulator like QEMU for this purpose - IIRC it supports
> Windows hosts. Probably if you combine it somehow with Cygwin you will be
> able to run QEMU with your code in one terminal window and
> GDB in another, i.e. do the whole thing the way it gets done under Linux
> host. It seems to be easier than doing it right on a physical machine,
> don’t you think…
>
> Anton Bassov
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>Is there a way to dump memory to a file while in softice debugging session?
SoftICE is discontinued since 2004.
There was never ever any version of SoftICE which supported Vista or later OS.
Why are you using it?
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On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:56 AM, wrote:
> What about using emulator like QEMU for this purpose
I think Bochs is a superior alternative to Qemu when it comes to
debugging, at the expense of emulation speed.
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Aram Hăvărneanu
Thanks to Anton, MarkR and everyone else. Looks like there is no way a dump
memory to file through DOS SoftICE.
BTW, I’m aware of QEMU and Boch’s and used Boch’s once to debug MBR but the
disk layout of Boch’s image I manually created was not the same from where I
copied the MBR from so the MBR debugging errored out towards the
beginning… I will explore this further.
To Maxim’s point
SoftICE is discontinued since 2004.
Why are you using it?
As I said before, I’m aware of SoftICE being retired, but still its a
effective debugger for 16-bit boot loader. My issue is I can’t dump debugged
16-bit memory to a file.
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:56 AM, wrote:
> > What about using emulator like QEMU for this purpose
>
> I think Bochs is a superior alternative to Qemu when it comes to
> debugging, at the expense of emulation speed.
>
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