ISA resources

Anybody knows how the ISA detection works? ISA doesn’t support PNP.
So, how does the OS to detect the ISA device and allocate the good
resources? An ISA device has usually a jumper to select address and
IRQ. So, while the system is booting up, which tasks the BIOS (POST)
does to gather those information. It’s different from PCI device which
it supports PNP.

Regards

CHristian

> Anybody knows how the ISA detection works? ISA doesn’t support PNP.

ISAPnP was out there since 1995.

So, how does the OS to detect the ISA device and allocate the good
resources?

For non-PnP ISA, there is no detection. The user must choose the addresses
manually from the options provided to him, the options are from LogConfig
statement in INF file.

Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

There is some ‘ISA’ detection on startup to identify all those well known
legacy devices that are at least theoretically on the ISA bus.

=====================
Mark Roddy

-----Original Message-----
From: Maxim S. Shatskih [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:24 PM
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Subject: [ntdev] Re: ISA resources

> Anybody knows how the ISA detection works? ISA doesn’t support PNP.

ISAPnP was out there since 1995.

> So, how does the OS to detect the ISA device and allocate the good
> resources?

For non-PnP ISA, there is no detection. The user must choose
the addresses manually from the options provided to him, the
options are from LogConfig statement in INF file.

Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com


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But The BIOS has detected my ISA card when I boot the system. The bios
detects the good I/O address + IRQ, How can it do it?

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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:24 PM
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Subject: [ntdev] Re: ISA resources

Anybody knows how the ISA detection works? ISA doesn’t support PNP.

ISAPnP was out there since 1995.

So, how does the OS to detect the ISA device and allocate the good
resources?

For non-PnP ISA, there is no detection. The user must choose the
addresses
manually from the options provided to him, the options are from
LogConfig
statement in INF file.

Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com


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Christian Grenier wrote:

But The BIOS has detected my ISA card when I boot the system. The bios
detects the good I/O address + IRQ, How can it do it?

If you see resources attributed to your ISA card on the POST report,
your ISA card must be Plug and Play. Like Maxim said, ISAPnP has been
around for almost 9 years.

See if you can find the book “Programming Plug and Play”,
by James Kelsey. I have the first edition (c)1995 Sams publishing.
ISBN 0-672-30703-0. All your questions will be
answered there.

Here is a link where they have this book cheap:

http://www.halfpricecomputerbooks.com/results.php?PHPSESSID=38d7bdbea149ef97b2092fccfa174c21&terms=0-672-30703-0&so=isbn&submit=Go!

George Blat
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At 11:42 AM 10/17/2003, you wrote:

Christian Grenier wrote:
>But The BIOS has detected my ISA card when I boot the system. The bios
>detects the good I/O address + IRQ, How can it do it?

If you see resources attributed to your ISA card on the POST report, your
ISA card must be Plug and Play. Like Maxim said, ISAPnP has been around
for almost 9 years.

Hello George,

Saturday, October 18, 2003, 9:04:07 AM, you wrote:

GB> See if you can find the book “Programming Plug and Play”,
GB> by James Kelsey. I have the first edition (c)1995 Sams publishing.
GB> ISBN 0-672-30703-0. All your questions will be
GB> answered there.

GB> Here is a link where they have this book cheap:

GB> http://www.halfpricecomputerbooks.com/results.php?PHPSESSID=38d7bdbea149ef97b2092fccfa174c21&terms=0-672-30703-0&so=isbn&submit=Go!

This URL is invalid: “There are currently no books with an item
matching “0-672-30703-0”. Please browse by category through our available stock,
try our search tips and solutions on the right, or search again with different terms.”

MA

I guess they make it work with a cookie they stored in
my computer. Just go back to

http://www.halfpricecomputerbooks.com

and once there do a search (top right hand side) on ISBN for 0-672-30703-0.
That’s how I got to that.

They sell them for us$ 9.99 a copy. The original price was us$ 39.99.

Thanks,

George Blat

At 05:34 PM 10/17/2003, you wrote:

Hello George,

Saturday, October 18, 2003, 9:04:07 AM, you wrote:

GB> See if you can find the book “Programming Plug and Play”,
GB> by James Kelsey. I have the first edition (c)1995 Sams publishing.
GB> ISBN 0-672-30703-0. All your questions will be
GB> answered there.

GB> Here is a link where they have this book cheap:

GB>
http://www.halfpricecomputerbooks.com/results.php?PHPSESSID=38d7bdbea149ef97b2092fccfa174c21&terms=0-672-30703-0&so=isbn&submit=Go!

This URL is invalid: “There are currently no books with an item
matching “0-672-30703-0”. Please browse by category through our available
stock,
try our search tips and solutions on the right, or search again with
different terms.”

MA


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Another link to this book:

http://www.halfpricecomputerbooks.com/book/0672307030

I think this one doesn’t depend on my cookies, so it will work
for you.

George

At 06:13 PM 10/17/2003, you wrote:

I guess they make it work with a cookie they stored in
my computer. Just go back to

http://www.halfpricecomputerbooks.com

and once there do a search (top right hand side) on ISBN for
0-672-30703-0. That’s how I got to that.

They sell them for us$ 9.99 a copy. The original price printed in the
cover is us$ 39.99

Thanks,

George Blat

At 05:34 PM 10/17/2003, you wrote:
>Hello George,
>
>Saturday, October 18, 2003, 9:04:07 AM, you wrote:
>
>GB> See if you can find the book “Programming Plug and Play”,
>GB> by James Kelsey. I have the first edition (c)1995 Sams publishing.
>GB> ISBN 0-672-30703-0. All your questions will be
>GB> answered there.
>
>GB> Here is a link where they have this book cheap:
>
>GB>
>http://www.halfpricecomputerbooks.com/results.php?PHPSESSID=38d7bdbea149ef97b2092fccfa174c21&terms=0-672-30703-0&so=isbn&submit=Go!
>
>This URL is invalid: “There are currently no books with an item
>matching “0-672-30703-0”. Please browse by category through our available
>stock,
>try our search tips and solutions on the right, or search again with
>different terms.”
>
>MA

Hello George,

Saturday, October 18, 2003, 10:40:44 AM, you wrote:

GB> Another link to this book:

GB> http://www.halfpricecomputerbooks.com/book/0672307030

GB> I think this one doesn’t depend on my cookies, so it will work
GB> for you.

GB> George

Yes, I also have found this link. Thank you in advance!

Michael