Hi All:
Might be a fsd question …
Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem filter can not be
filtered
from top ?
-prokash
This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a while), bottom line
is don’t do this. Consider your product A requires being on top, then
a new neat product B comes along and it requires being on top, bottom
line is you have unhappy customers!
This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to ask why do you
want to be on top?
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
----- Original Message -----
From: “Prokash Sinha”
To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> Hi All:
>
> Might be a fsd question …
>
> Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem filter can not be
> filtered
> from top ?
>
> -prokash
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
Thanx Don.
Pls dont worry about other products, then also either programmatically or by
preserving some configuration can we do this.
If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I will take it
offline later, but not now.
thanx
prokash
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a while), bottom line
is don’t do this. Consider your product A requires being on top, then
a new neat product B comes along and it requires being on top, bottom
line is you have unhappy customers!
This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to ask why do you
want to be on top?
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
----- Original Message -----
From: “Prokash Sinha”
To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> Hi All:
>
> Might be a fsd question …
>
> Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem filter can not be
> filtered
> from top ?
>
> -prokash
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
—
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http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
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To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any other
filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design flaw.
=====================
Mark Roddy
-----Original Message-----
From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …Thanx Don.
Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do this.If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
will take it offline later, but not now.thanx
prokash-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
unhappy customers!This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
ask why do you want to be on top?Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting----- Original Message -----
From: “Prokash Sinha”
> To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
>
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
>
>
> > Hi All:
> >
> > Might be a fsd question …
> >
> > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> filter can not
> > be filtered from top ?
> >
> > -prokash
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
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Thanx to both of you. It sounds very familiar !.
There is atleast an illegitimate way, and I’m sure that I dont like !
Benson might me be picking the signal from extra-terristal (spell error).
-prokash
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Roddy, Mark
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:39 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any other
filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design flaw.
=====================
Mark Roddy
-----Original Message-----
From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …Thanx Don.
Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do this.If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
will take it offline later, but not now.thanx
prokash-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
unhappy customers!This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
ask why do you want to be on top?Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting----- Original Message -----
From: “Prokash Sinha”
> To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
>
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
>
>
> > Hi All:
> >
> > Might be a fsd question …
> >
> > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> filter can not
> > be filtered from top ?
> >
> > -prokash
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
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–
Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
“Roddy, Mark” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any other
> filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design flaw.
>
>
> =====================
> Mark Roddy
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
> > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > Thanx Don.
> >
> > Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
> > programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do this.
> >
> > If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
> > will take it offline later, but not now.
> >
> > thanx
> > prokash
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
> > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
> > while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
> > A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
> > along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
> > unhappy customers!
> >
> > This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
> > ask why do you want to be on top?
> >
> > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> > Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: “Prokash Sinha”
> > To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
> >
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> > Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > > Hi All:
> > >
> > > Might be a fsd question …
> > >
> > > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> > filter can not
> > > be filtered from top ?
> > >
> > > -prokash
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > —
> > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > >
> > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com To
> unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@stratus.com To
> unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
>
Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
But then again you are right it is R Q R.
-prokash
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:01 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
Ah, the quintessential Red Queens Race
–
Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
“Roddy, Mark” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any other
> filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design flaw.
>
>
> =====================
> Mark Roddy
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
> > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > Thanx Don.
> >
> > Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
> > programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do this.
> >
> > If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
> > will take it offline later, but not now.
> >
> > thanx
> > prokash
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
> > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
> > while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
> > A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
> > along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
> > unhappy customers!
> >
> > This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
> > ask why do you want to be on top?
> >
> > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> > Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: “Prokash Sinha”
> > To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
> >
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> > Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > > Hi All:
> > >
> > > Might be a fsd question …
> > >
> > > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> > filter can not
> > > be filtered from top ?
> > >
> > > -prokash
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > —
> > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > >
> > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com To
> unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@stratus.com To
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>
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>Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s life.
Do I seem hostile?
–
Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
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“Prokash Sinha” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
>
> But then again you are right it is R Q R.
>
> -prokash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:01 PM
> To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
>
>
> Ah, the quintessential Red Queens Race
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
> “Roddy, Mark” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any other
> > filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design flaw.
> >
> >
> > =====================
> > Mark Roddy
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx Don.
> > >
> > > Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
> > > programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do this.
> > >
> > > If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
> > > will take it offline later, but not now.
> > >
> > > thanx
> > > prokash
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
> > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > >
> > >
> > > This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
> > > while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
> > > A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
> > > along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
> > > unhappy customers!
> > >
> > > This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
> > > ask why do you want to be on top?
> > >
> > > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> > > Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: “Prokash Sinha”
> > > To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi All:
> > > >
> > > > Might be a fsd question …
> > > >
> > > > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> > > filter can not
> > > > be filtered from top ?
> > > >
> > > > -prokash
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > —
> > > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > > >
> > > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to
xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > >
> > >
> > > —
> > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com To
> > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@stratus.com To
> > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com
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>
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>
>
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 15:14, Bill McKenzie wrote:
>Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s life.
Do I seem hostile?
well, thei list might seem a bit hostile lately…
Hey, how can I be serious about this ?
I was very vocal to act like a fire fighter on this list. Then again, all
the
people who could answer my questions, did and still does…
That is my way of appreciating, hope you got it.
thanx
prokash
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:14 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s life.
Do I seem hostile?
–
Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
“Prokash Sinha” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
>
> But then again you are right it is R Q R.
>
> -prokash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:01 PM
> To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
>
>
> Ah, the quintessential Red Queens Race
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
> “Roddy, Mark” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any other
> > filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design flaw.
> >
> >
> > =====================
> > Mark Roddy
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx Don.
> > >
> > > Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
> > > programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do this.
> > >
> > > If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
> > > will take it offline later, but not now.
> > >
> > > thanx
> > > prokash
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
> > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > >
> > >
> > > This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
> > > while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
> > > A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
> > > along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
> > > unhappy customers!
> > >
> > > This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
> > > ask why do you want to be on top?
> > >
> > > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> > > Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: “Prokash Sinha”
> > > To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi All:
> > > >
> > > > Might be a fsd question …
> > > >
> > > > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> > > filter can not
> > > > be filtered from top ?
> > > >
> > > > -prokash
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > —
> > > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > > >
> > > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to
xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > >
> > >
> > > —
> > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com To
> > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
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Well, I didn’t believe you really though I meant you harm
–
Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
“Prokash Sinha” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> Hey, how can I be serious about this ?
>
> I was very vocal to act like a fire fighter on this list. Then again, all
> the
> people who could answer my questions, did and still does…
>
> That is my way of appreciating, hope you got it.
>
> thanx
> prokash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
>
>
> >Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
>
> What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s life.
>
> Do I seem hostile?
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
> “Prokash Sinha” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
> >
> > But then again you are right it is R Q R.
> >
> > -prokash
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:01 PM
> > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > Ah, the quintessential Red Queens Race
> >
> > –
> > Bill McKenzie
> > Compuware Corporation
> > Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> > http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
> >
> >
> > “Roddy, Mark” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > >
> > > Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any
other
> > > filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design
flaw.
> > >
> > >
> > > =====================
> > > Mark Roddy
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Don.
> > > >
> > > > Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
> > > > programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do this.
> > > >
> > > > If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
> > > > will take it offline later, but not now.
> > > >
> > > > thanx
> > > > prokash
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
> > > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
> > > > while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
> > > > A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
> > > > along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
> > > > unhappy customers!
> > > >
> > > > This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
> > > > ask why do you want to be on top?
> > > >
> > > > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> > > > Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: “Prokash Sinha”
> > > > To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> > > > Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All:
> > > > >
> > > > > Might be a fsd question …
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> > > > filter can not
> > > > > be filtered from top ?
> > > > >
> > > > > -prokash
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > —
> > > > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > > > >
> > > > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to
> xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > —
> > > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > >
> > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com To
> > > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > —
> > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > >
> > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@stratus.com To
> > > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > —
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> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> —
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> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
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>
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>
>
I did not get this last sentence though !
If I did harm, I am sorry.
But this RQR might start again, that is why I said.
Sorry again.
-prokash
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:29 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
Well, I didn’t believe you really though I meant you harm
–
Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
“Prokash Sinha” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> Hey, how can I be serious about this ?
>
> I was very vocal to act like a fire fighter on this list. Then again, all
> the
> people who could answer my questions, did and still does…
>
> That is my way of appreciating, hope you got it.
>
> thanx
> prokash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
>
>
> >Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
>
> What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s life.
>
> Do I seem hostile?
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
> “Prokash Sinha” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
> >
> > But then again you are right it is R Q R.
> >
> > -prokash
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:01 PM
> > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > Ah, the quintessential Red Queens Race
> >
> > –
> > Bill McKenzie
> > Compuware Corporation
> > Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> > http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
> >
> >
> > “Roddy, Mark” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > >
> > > Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any
other
> > > filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design
flaw.
> > >
> > >
> > > =====================
> > > Mark Roddy
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Don.
> > > >
> > > > Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
> > > > programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do this.
> > > >
> > > > If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
> > > > will take it offline later, but not now.
> > > >
> > > > thanx
> > > > prokash
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
> > > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
> > > > while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
> > > > A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
> > > > along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
> > > > unhappy customers!
> > > >
> > > > This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
> > > > ask why do you want to be on top?
> > > >
> > > > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> > > > Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: “Prokash Sinha”
> > > > To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> > > > Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All:
> > > > >
> > > > > Might be a fsd question …
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> > > > filter can not
> > > > > be filtered from top ?
> > > > >
> > > > > -prokash
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > —
> > > > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > > > >
> > > > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to
> xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > —
> > > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > >
> > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com To
> > > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > —
> > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > >
> > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@stratus.com To
> > > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com
> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
>
>
>
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I was just trying to joke back with you, no harm, no foul.
–
Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
“Prokash Sinha” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> I did not get this last sentence though !
>
> If I did harm, I am sorry.
>
> But this RQR might start again, that is why I said.
>
> Sorry again.
> -prokash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:29 PM
> To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
>
>
> Well, I didn’t believe you really though I meant you harm
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
> “Prokash Sinha” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > Hey, how can I be serious about this ?
> >
> > I was very vocal to act like a fire fighter on this list. Then again,
all
> > the
> > people who could answer my questions, did and still does…
> >
> > That is my way of appreciating, hope you got it.
> >
> > thanx
> > prokash
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:14 PM
> > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > >Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
> >
> > What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s
life.
> >
> > Do I seem hostile?
> >
> > –
> > Bill McKenzie
> > Compuware Corporation
> > Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> > http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
> >
> >
> > “Prokash Sinha” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > >
> > > Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
> > >
> > > But then again you are right it is R Q R.
> > >
> > > -prokash
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:01 PM
> > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > >
> > >
> > > Ah, the quintessential Red Queens Race
> > >
> > > –
> > > Bill McKenzie
> > > Compuware Corporation
> > > Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer
tool:
> > > http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > “Roddy, Mark” wrote in message
> > news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > > >
> > > > Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any
> other
> > > > filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design
> flaw.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =====================
> > > > Mark Roddy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx Don.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
> > > > > programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do
this.
> > > > >
> > > > > If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
> > > > > will take it offline later, but not now.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanx
> > > > > prokash
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
> > > > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
> > > > > while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
> > > > > A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
> > > > > along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
> > > > > unhappy customers!
> > > > >
> > > > > This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
> > > > > ask why do you want to be on top?
> > > > >
> > > > > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> > > > > Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: “Prokash Sinha”
> > > > > To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> > > > > Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Might be a fsd question …
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> > > > > filter can not
> > > > > > be filtered from top ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -prokash
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > —
> > > > > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@acm.org
> > > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to
> > xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > —
> > > > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > > >
> > > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com To
> > > > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > —
> > > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > > >
> > > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@stratus.com To
> > > > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > —
> > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > >
> > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com
> > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com
> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@vormetric.com
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
>
>
>
Opps !
I’m surely checkmate.
thanx though
-prokash
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:35 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
I was just trying to joke back with you, no harm, no foul.
–
Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
“Prokash Sinha” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> I did not get this last sentence though !
>
> If I did harm, I am sorry.
>
> But this RQR might start again, that is why I said.
>
> Sorry again.
> -prokash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:29 PM
> To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
>
>
> Well, I didn’t believe you really though I meant you harm
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
> “Prokash Sinha” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > Hey, how can I be serious about this ?
> >
> > I was very vocal to act like a fire fighter on this list. Then again,
all
> > the
> > people who could answer my questions, did and still does…
> >
> > That is my way of appreciating, hope you got it.
> >
> > thanx
> > prokash
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:14 PM
> > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> >
> >
> > >Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
> >
> > What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s
life.
> >
> > Do I seem hostile?
> >
> > –
> > Bill McKenzie
> > Compuware Corporation
> > Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> > http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
> >
> >
> > “Prokash Sinha” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > >
> > > Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
> > >
> > > But then again you are right it is R Q R.
> > >
> > > -prokash
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Bill McKenzie
> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:01 PM
> > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > >
> > >
> > > Ah, the quintessential Red Queens Race
> > >
> > > –
> > > Bill McKenzie
> > > Compuware Corporation
> > > Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer
tool:
> > > http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > “Roddy, Mark” wrote in message
> > news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > > >
> > > > Whatever you do to try to keep yourself on top can be done by any
> other
> > > > filter. Sound familiar? You can’t win at that game. It is a design
> flaw.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =====================
> > > > Mark Roddy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@vormetric.com]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx Don.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pls dont worry about other products, then also either
> > > > > programmatically or by preserving some configuration can we do
this.
> > > > >
> > > > > If not then also fine, that is why I said legitimately. I
> > > > > will take it offline later, but not now.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanx
> > > > > prokash
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Don Burn
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:09 PM
> > > > > To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
> > > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a
> > > > > while), bottom line is don’t do this. Consider your product
> > > > > A requires being on top, then a new neat product B comes
> > > > > along and it requires being on top, bottom line is you have
> > > > > unhappy customers!
> > > > >
> > > > > This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to
> > > > > ask why do you want to be on top?
> > > > >
> > > > > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> > > > > Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: “Prokash Sinha”
> > > > > To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> > > > > Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Might be a fsd question …
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem
> > > > > filter can not
> > > > > > be filtered from top ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -prokash
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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I had a situation when I had to be on top. I have a FSFD which is a
classical FSFD loaded before file systems, registering file system
callbacks, used for AV file monitor. Some of our customers used ZIP-magic on
their workplaces. ZIP-magic is a software that represents .ZIP archives as
usual folders. It loads its FSFDs after user logon. This means that their
filter are installed on top of mine. And that means, that if an infected
file is in .ZIP archive it can be launched because operations on that file
never get to my filter. Though I found a solution for that, I’d love to know
if there is some clean way for such a scenario.
-htfv
----- Original Message -----
From: “Don Burn”
To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:09 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> This is an old question (though I haven’t seen it for a while), bottom
line
> is don’t do this. Consider your product A requires being on top, then
> a new neat product B comes along and it requires being on top, bottom
> line is you have unhappy customers!
>
> This is one of those questions, where the best thing is to ask why do you
> want to be on top?
>
> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Prokash Sinha”
> To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM
> Subject: [ntdev] Is there any legitimate way for …
>
>
> > Hi All:
> >
> > Might be a fsd question …
> >
> > Is there any legitimate way to ensure that a filsystem filter can not be
> > filtered
> > from top ?
> >
> > -prokash
> >
> >
> >
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“Alexey Logachyov” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> never get to my filter. Though I found a solution for that, I’d love to
know
> if there is some clean way for such a scenario.
>
> -htfv
>
No, there is sadly no solution to this in the current design.
Yes, while this would be better asked (and answered) over in NTFSD, I think
we’ve got the answer.
Peter
OSR
Well, William, there are times when Dirty Harry does seem more hospitable.
:))
–
Gary G. Little
Seagate Technologies, LLC
“Steve Dispensa” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 15:14, Bill McKenzie wrote:
> > >Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
> >
> > What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s
life.
> >
> > Do I seem hostile?
>
> well, thei list might seem a bit hostile lately…
>
>
>
>
>
>
Well, I’m not sure about William the Dirty Harry. But no one dare to call me
Dirty. Yes I agree that that could have been applicable uptil yesterday.
But not today, I’had my shower after couple days. To be exact after 3 days,
and the temperature here is hoovering around 100F. If any one has a
thermometer, that does not take that far, it is bit comforting for them,
since the modulo might apply. That is why I like those 4 cyldr car that has
a modulo to 100000 miles. if I can keep it clean, and drive that far, I can
sell it by cheating lot of people…
-prokash
----- Original Message -----
From: “Gary G. Little”
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:30 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> Well, William, there are times when Dirty Harry does seem more hospitable.
> :))
>
> –
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> “Steve Dispensa” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 15:14, Bill McKenzie wrote:
> > > >Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
> > >
> > > What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s
> life.
> > >
> > > Do I seem hostile?
> >
> > well, thei list might seem a bit hostile lately…
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Thanx again.
-prokash
----- Original Message -----
From: “Peter Viscarola”
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
>
> “Alexey Logachyov” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > never get to my filter. Though I found a solution for that, I’d love to
> know
> > if there is some clean way for such a scenario.
> >
> > -htfv
> >
>
> No, there is sadly no solution to this in the current design.
>
> Yes, while this would be better asked (and answered) over in NTFSD, I
think
> we’ve got the answer.
>
> Peter
> OSR
>
>
>
>
>
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It looks like we have a cultural breakdown guys.
Prokash, Dirty Harry is the name of the famous “tough cop” character Clint
Eastwood played in many famous American movies: Dirty Harry, The Enforcer,
etc…
I would consider it a complement if someone likened me to Dirty Harry
Regards,
Jamey Kirby, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Inc.
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Prokash Sinha
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:17 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
Well, I’m not sure about William the Dirty Harry. But no one dare to call me
Dirty. Yes I agree that that could have been applicable uptil yesterday.
But not today, I’had my shower after couple days. To be exact after 3 days,
and the temperature here is hoovering around 100F. If any one has a
thermometer, that does not take that far, it is bit comforting for them,
since the modulo might apply. That is why I like those 4 cyldr car that has
a modulo to 100000 miles. if I can keep it clean, and drive that far, I can
sell it by cheating lot of people…
-prokash
----- Original Message -----
From: “Gary G. Little”
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:30 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Is there any legitimate way for …
> Well, William, there are times when Dirty Harry does seem more hospitable.
> :))
>
> –
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> “Steve Dispensa” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 15:14, Bill McKenzie wrote:
> > > >Pls dont kill me man, I’ve two beautiful boys( 9+, 6+ ) to take care.
> > >
> > > What is that all about? I don’t ever remember threatening anyone’s
> life.
> > >
> > > Do I seem hostile?
> >
> > well, thei list might seem a bit hostile lately…
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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