IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus...

Hi !
I make a simple protection application and I use the FILEMON sources…

But I have a question… in few times in (Windows NT/2000/XP) the driver
have conflits with Norton Antivirus monitor…

How the better way to correct this conflict problems ?

In few times, the computer crash…

Regards,

Marcos

Nice of you to steal someone else’s work. That source code is available for
license from sysinternals.

“Marcos Velasco” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
>
> Hi !
> I make a simple protection application and I use the FILEMON sources…
>
> But I have a question… in few times in (Windows NT/2000/XP) the driver
> have conflits with Norton Antivirus monitor…
>
> How the better way to correct this conflict problems ?
>
> In few times, the computer crash…
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcos
>
>
>

Hi Marcos,

A couple of things…

  1. FILEMON Source is not free software and should only really be used for
    reference, and even then it is better to use the sfilter sample from
    microsoft.

  2. We will need a bit more information that “My computer crashes” in order
    to help. What bugcheck code are you seeing?

Regards

Ben Curley
DESlock+ Lead Programmer
Data Encryption Systems Ltd.

Tel: +44 (0)1823 352357 (Main)
Tel: +44 (0)1823 358320 (Direct Dial)

Web: http://www.deslock.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcos Velasco [mailto:xxxxx@uol.com.br]
Sent: 17 November 2003 18:00
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…

Hi !
I make a simple protection application and I use the FILEMON sources…

But I have a question… in few times in (Windows NT/2000/XP) the driver
have conflits with Norton Antivirus monitor…

How the better way to correct this conflict problems ?

In few times, the computer crash…

Regards,

Marcos


Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17

You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@des.co.uk
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Hi !

I use the FILEMON because is the unique application with source code
available…

My program is not commercial… is for my own use and I try change and I
make a new version based in FILEMON… I dont steal the work… I only use
part of the source because documentation is not found easy in Internet…

My question is:
“How the better way to correct this conflict problems ?”

And not… “Why you dont license the source code from SysInternals ?”

Thank you

Marcos

----- Original Message -----
From: “David J. Craig”
Newsgroups: ntfsd
To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:11 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] Re: IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…

> Nice of you to steal someone else’s work. That source code is available
for
> license from sysinternals.
>
> “Marcos Velasco” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
> >
> > Hi !
> > I make a simple protection application and I use the FILEMON sources…
> >
> > But I have a question… in few times in (Windows NT/2000/XP) the driver
> > have conflits with Norton Antivirus monitor…
> >
> > How the better way to correct this conflict problems ?
> >
> > In few times, the computer crash…
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marcos
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@uol.com.br
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com

Hi !
The “Blue screen” in few times in machines with Norton Antivirus…

Maybe this problem exists with anothers applications too…

Thank you

Marcos

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:16 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…

>
> Hi Marcos,
>
> A couple of things…
>
> 1. FILEMON Source is not free software and should only really be used for
> reference, and even then it is better to use the sfilter sample from
> microsoft.
>
> 2. We will need a bit more information that “My computer crashes” in order
> to help. What bugcheck code are you seeing?
>
> Regards
>
> Ben Curley
> DESlock+ Lead Programmer
> Data Encryption Systems Ltd.
>
> Tel: +44 (0)1823 352357 (Main)
> Tel: +44 (0)1823 358320 (Direct Dial)
>
> Web: http://www.deslock.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcos Velasco [mailto:xxxxx@uol.com.br]
> Sent: 17 November 2003 18:00
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntfsd] IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…
>
> Hi !
> I make a simple protection application and I use the FILEMON sources…
>
> But I have a question… in few times in (Windows NT/2000/XP) the driver
> have conflits with Norton Antivirus monitor…
>
> How the better way to correct this conflict problems ?
>
> In few times, the computer crash…
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcos
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
> https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@des.co.uk
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
> —
> Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@uol.com.br
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com

Let me guess - Stop code 0x7F, first parameter 8.

If you want to exacerbate this, turn on driver verifier - that will
generally force this to happen rather quickly - this is a stack overflow
condition and happens when you get enough file system filters of ANY type
installed on the system.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
http://www.osronline.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcos Velasco [mailto:xxxxx@uol.com.br]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:42 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…

Hi !
The “Blue screen” in few times in machines with Norton Antivirus…

Maybe this problem exists with anothers applications too…

Thank you

Marcos

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:16 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…

>
> Hi Marcos,
>
> A couple of things…
>
> 1. FILEMON Source is not free software and should only really be used for
> reference, and even then it is better to use the sfilter sample from
> microsoft.
>
> 2. We will need a bit more information that “My computer crashes” in order
> to help. What bugcheck code are you seeing?
>
> Regards
>
> Ben Curley
> DESlock+ Lead Programmer
> Data Encryption Systems Ltd.
>
> Tel: +44 (0)1823 352357 (Main)
> Tel: +44 (0)1823 358320 (Direct Dial)
>
> Web: http://www.deslock.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcos Velasco [mailto:xxxxx@uol.com.br]
> Sent: 17 November 2003 18:00
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntfsd] IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…
>
> Hi !
> I make a simple protection application and I use the FILEMON sources…
>
> But I have a question… in few times in (Windows NT/2000/XP) the driver
> have conflits with Norton Antivirus monitor…
>
> How the better way to correct this conflict problems ?
>
> In few times, the computer crash…
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcos
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
> https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@des.co.uk
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
> —
> Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@uol.com.br
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Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
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Look at NAV’s web site. There is a FAQ that discusses increasing the
kernel stack to work around this problem. NAV appears to be very stack
hungry and basically can’t interoperate with other filters.

Also, look at the OSR FAQ that discusses techniques you can use to
“defer” requests to a worker thread when the stack is very low. These
techniques are frequently used and work.

/TomH

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Mason [mailto:xxxxx@osr.com]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 12:46 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…

Let me guess - Stop code 0x7F, first parameter 8.

If you want to exacerbate this, turn on driver verifier - that will
generally force this to happen rather quickly - this is a stack overflow
condition and happens when you get enough file system filters of ANY
type
installed on the system.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
http://www.osronline.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcos Velasco [mailto:xxxxx@uol.com.br]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:42 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…

Hi !
The “Blue screen” in few times in machines with Norton Antivirus…

Maybe this problem exists with anothers applications too…

Thank you

Marcos

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:16 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…

>
> Hi Marcos,
>
> A couple of things…
>
> 1. FILEMON Source is not free software and should only really be used
for
> reference, and even then it is better to use the sfilter sample from
> microsoft.
>
> 2. We will need a bit more information that “My computer crashes” in
order
> to help. What bugcheck code are you seeing?
>
> Regards
>
> Ben Curley
> DESlock+ Lead Programmer
> Data Encryption Systems Ltd.
>
> Tel: +44 (0)1823 352357 (Main)
> Tel: +44 (0)1823 358320 (Direct Dial)
>
> Web: http://www.deslock.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcos Velasco [mailto:xxxxx@uol.com.br]
> Sent: 17 November 2003 18:00
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: [ntfsd] IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…
>
> Hi !
> I make a simple protection application and I use the FILEMON
sources…
>
> But I have a question… in few times in (Windows NT/2000/XP) the
driver
> have conflits with Norton Antivirus monitor…
>
> How the better way to correct this conflict problems ?
>
> In few times, the computer crash…
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcos
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
> https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@des.co.uk
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
> —
> Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@uol.com.br
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FILEMON is not a way to go for production drivers, only for lab testing
tools.
Use SFILTER (from MS IFS Kit) as a template to build the real FS filter.

Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

----- Original Message -----
From: “Marcos Velasco”
To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 8:59 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] IFS conflits with Norton Antivirus…

> Hi !
> I make a simple protection application and I use the FILEMON sources…
>
> But I have a question… in few times in (Windows NT/2000/XP) the driver
> have conflits with Norton Antivirus monitor…
>
> How the better way to correct this conflict problems ?
>
> In few times, the computer crash…
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcos
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@storagecraft.com
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com