Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial + null cable)

Hi All,

I’m using a Belkin USB to serial cable adapter on my laptop with a null
cable that works just fine (when I connect two desktop)

The Hyper terminal test doesn’t seem to work for me on any com port. I
have fallowed trough the instruction and even tried few Ideas from a
previous thread that was published here but still…nothing helps, any
good or bad ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Maybe other hardware(usb to serial adapter) recommendations

Regards,

Daniel

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A problem with the serial port of your laptop perhaps?

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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 18:19
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Subject: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial + null cable)

Hi All,

I’m using a Belkin USB to serial cable adapter on my laptop with a null
cable that works just fine (when I connect two desktop)

The Hyper terminal test doesn’t seem to work for me on any com port. I have
fallowed trough the instruction and even tried few Ideas from a previous
thread that was published here but still.nothing helps, any good or bad
ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Maybe other hardware(usb to serial adapter) recommendations

Regards,

Daniel

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I use a PPA Int’l Item #3312 that I got a Fry’s for about $20. It uses a Prolific Serial port driver to enumerate a serial port. This will only work for the host system. I do use a RJ-45 cable to connect the two computers with a serial to RJ-45 adapter on both ends - one of which has the pins crossed to form a null modem connection. Ethernet cables are much better than cheap serial cables.
“Edouard A.” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
A problem with the serial port of your laptop perhaps?

From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Arosh
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 18:19
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial + null cable)

Hi All,

I’m using a Belkin USB to serial cable adapter on my laptop with a null cable that works just fine (when I connect two desktop)

The Hyper terminal test doesn’t seem to work for me on any com port. I have fallowed trough the instruction and even tried few Ideas from a previous thread that was published here but still.nothing helps, any good or bad ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Maybe other hardware(usb to serial adapter) recommendations

Regards,

Daniel

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I have a Keyspan USB adapter that is *awful*. It maxes out at 38,400,
and even there it seems flaky. I think it was marked “PDA adapter”,
which is apparently code for “crappy data rates”. I have another from
Micro Innovations that has been fine. It comes up as a Prolific
Technology PL2303 Serial Port in the USB vendor id db.

-sd

On Oct 26, 2006, at 5:35 PM, David J. Craig wrote:

I use a PPA Int’l Item #3312 that I got a Fry’s for about $20. It
uses a Prolific Serial port driver to enumerate a serial port.
This will only work for the host system. I do use a RJ-45 cable to
connect the two computers with a serial to RJ-45 adapter on both
ends - one of which has the pins crossed to form a null modem
connection. Ethernet cables are much better than cheap serial cables.
“Edouard A.” wrote in message news:
> xxxxx@windbg…
> A problem with the serial port of your laptop perhaps?
>
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> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Arosh
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 18:19
> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
> Subject: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial +
> null cable)
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> Hi All,
>
> I?m using a Belkin USB to serial cable adapter on my laptop with a
> null cable that works just fine (when I connect two desktop)
>
> The Hyper terminal test doesn?t seem to work for me on any com
> port. I have fallowed trough the instruction and even tried few
> Ideas from a previous thread that was published here but still?
> nothing helps, any good or bad ideas will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Maybe other hardware(usb to serial adapter) recommendations
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
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>
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Several of the inexpensive USB to Serial adapters are based upon the same chipset. They seem to have the same drive too. I downloaded one from the website and it was the same as on the 80mm CD that came with the device and a couple of years old. Why can’t the others get it right?
“Steve Dispensa” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
I have a Keyspan USB adapter that is awful. It maxes out at 38,400, and even there it seems flaky. I think it was marked “PDA adapter”, which is apparently code for “crappy data rates”. I have another from Micro Innovations that has been fine. It comes up as a Prolific Technology PL2303 Serial Port in the USB vendor id db.

-sd

On Oct 26, 2006, at 5:35 PM, David J. Craig wrote:

I use a PPA Int’l Item #3312 that I got a Fry’s for about $20. It uses a Prolific Serial port driver to enumerate a serial port. This will only work for the host system. I do use a RJ-45 cable to connect the two computers with a serial to RJ-45 adapter on both ends - one of which has the pins crossed to form a null modem connection. Ethernet cables are much better than cheap serial cables.
“Edouard A.” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
A problem with the serial port of your laptop perhaps?

From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Arosh
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 18:19
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial + null cable)

Hi All,

I?m using a Belkin USB to serial cable adapter on my laptop with a null cable that works just fine (when I connect two desktop)

The Hyper terminal test doesn?t seem to work for me on any com port. I have fallowed trough the instruction and even tried few Ideas from a previous thread that was published here but still?nothing helps, any good or bad ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Maybe other hardware(usb to serial adapter) recommendations

Regards,

Daniel

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On the other hand, I have several 4-port USB/serial adapters from
Keyspan that I use all the time to debug with, frequently multiple debug
sessions at the same time (we do cluster stuff that sometimes requires
breaking into multiple machines at the same time). It works very well,
running multiple 100Kb connections at the same time without issues.

Ou pay your money, you take your chances, I guess…

From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Steve Dispensa
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:41 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial +
null cable)

I have a Keyspan USB adapter that is *awful*. It maxes out at 38,400,
and even there it seems flaky. I think it was marked “PDA adapter”,
which is apparently code for “crappy data rates”. I have another from
Micro Innovations that has been fine. It comes up as a Prolific
Technology PL2303 Serial Port in the USB vendor id db.

-sd

On Oct 26, 2006, at 5:35 PM, David J. Craig wrote:

I use a PPA Int’l Item #3312 that I got a Fry’s for about $20. It uses
a Prolific Serial port driver to enumerate a serial port. This will
only work for the host system. I do use a RJ-45 cable to connect the
two computers with a serial to RJ-45 adapter on both ends - one of which
has the pins crossed to form a null modem connection. Ethernet cables
are much better than cheap serial cables.

“Edouard A.” >
wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg news:xxxxx

A problem with the serial port of your laptop perhaps?

From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
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mailto:xxxxx] On Behalf Of Daniel Arosh
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 18:19
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial +
null cable)

Hi All,

I’m using a Belkin USB to serial cable adapter on my laptop with
a null cable that works just fine (when I connect two desktop)

The Hyper terminal test doesn’t seem to work for me on any com
port. I have fallowed trough the instruction and even tried few Ideas
from a previous thread that was published here but still…nothing
helps, any good or bad ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Maybe other hardware(usb to serial adapter) recommendations

Regards,

Daniel

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Hi all,

Thank you Dave, Steve, David and Edouard !

I have this Belkin F5U109, apparently I need F5U103,( at least that is
what Belkin support told me F5U103 ) which is unavailable for me at the
moment.

I can get a hold on does two listed below in a couple of days, so if
anyone can tell me if he ever used any of them for kernel debugging or
maybe in knows this chip set ( Prolific PL-2303) is fine for the
purpose of KD.

Thanks Again !

1st. option:

ST-LAB USB TO RS232

Spec:

Part No.: USB-SERIAL-4
Chipset : Prolific PL-2303
Bus Interface : USB 1.1
Features:
* Fully compliant with USB 1.1
* Supports RS232 serial interface
* Data Transfer Rate: over 1Mbps
* Length: 1.5m
OS Supports : Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP
Linux Kernel V2.4 or later
Connectors : 1 x USB Type A Male; 1 X DB9 Male
Accessories : 1 x Manual, 1 x Driver CD

2nd. Option:

Y-105 USB TO RS232

Have a great weekend !


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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dave Beaver
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:38 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial +
null cable)

On the other hand, I have several 4-port USB/serial adapters from
Keyspan that I use all the time to debug with, frequently multiple debug
sessions at the same time (we do cluster stuff that sometimes requires
breaking into multiple machines at the same time). It works very well,
running multiple 100Kb connections at the same time without issues.

Ou pay your money, you take your chances, I guess…

From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Steve Dispensa
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:41 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial +
null cable)

I have a Keyspan USB adapter that is *awful*. It maxes out at 38,400,
and even there it seems flaky. I think it was marked “PDA adapter”,
which is apparently code for “crappy data rates”. I have another from
Micro Innovations that has been fine. It comes up as a Prolific
Technology PL2303 Serial Port in the USB vendor id db.

-sd

On Oct 26, 2006, at 5:35 PM, David J. Craig wrote:

I use a PPA Int’l Item #3312 that I got a Fry’s for about $20. It uses
a Prolific Serial port driver to enumerate a serial port. This will
only work for the host system. I do use a RJ-45 cable to connect the
two computers with a serial to RJ-45 adapter on both ends - one of which
has the pins crossed to form a null modem connection. Ethernet cables
are much better than cheap serial cables.

“Edouard A.” >
wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg news:xxxxx

A problem with the serial port of your laptop perhaps?

From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com
mailto:xxxxx] On Behalf Of Daniel Arosh
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 18:19
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial +
null cable)

Hi All,

I’m using a Belkin USB to serial cable adapter on my laptop with
a null cable that works just fine (when I connect two desktop)

The Hyper terminal test doesn’t seem to work for me on any com
port. I have fallowed trough the instruction and even tried few Ideas
from a previous thread that was published here but still…nothing
helps, any good or bad ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Maybe other hardware(usb to serial adapter) recommendations

Regards,

Daniel

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On Oct 27, 2006, at 8:03 AM, Daniel Arosh wrote:

I can get a hold on does two listed below in a couple of days, so
if anyone can tell me if he ever used any of them for kernel
debugging or maybe in knows this chip set ( Prolific PL-2303) is
fine for the purpose of KD.

That’s the chipset that David and I both said works for us.

-Steve

I have also had good experiences with Prolific’s chipsets. There are a couple of different retailers that sell them under various brands - look for ones that use ser2pl.sys.

BTW, a word of caution, to this point I have *not* seen x64 drivers for the Prolific chipset convertors. If you are running on x64, you might have to resort to something ugly like redirecting the USB device to a 32-bit VM and debugging from there.


Ken Johnson (Skywing)
Windows SDK MVP
http://www.nynaeve.net

“Daniel Arosh” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…

Hi all,

Thank you Dave, Steve, David and Edouard !

I have this Belkin F5U109, apparently I need F5U103,( at least that is what Belkin support told me F5U103 ) which is unavailable for me at the moment.

I can get a hold on does two listed below in a couple of days, so if anyone can tell me if he ever used any of them for kernel debugging or maybe in knows this chip set ( Prolific PL-2303) is fine for the purpose of KD.

Thanks Again !

1st. option:

ST-LAB USB TO RS232

Spec:

Part No.: USB-SERIAL-4
Chipset : Prolific PL-2303
Bus Interface : USB 1.1
Features:
* Fully compliant with USB 1.1
* Supports RS232 serial interface
* Data Transfer Rate: over 1Mbps
* Length: 1.5m
OS Supports : Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP
Linux Kernel V2.4 or later
Connectors : 1 x USB Type A Male; 1 X DB9 Male
Accessories : 1 x Manual, 1 x Driver CD

2nd. Option:

Y-105 USB TO RS232

Have a great weekend !

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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Dave Beaver
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:38 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: RE: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial + null cable)

On the other hand, I have several 4-port USB/serial adapters from Keyspan that I use all the time to debug with, frequently multiple debug sessions at the same time (we do cluster stuff that sometimes requires breaking into multiple machines at the same time). It works very well, running multiple 100Kb connections at the same time without issues.

Ou pay your money, you take your chances, I guess…

From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Steve Dispensa
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:41 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial + null cable)

I have a Keyspan USB adapter that is awful. It maxes out at 38,400, and even there it seems flaky. I think it was marked “PDA adapter”, which is apparently code for “crappy data rates”. I have another from Micro Innovations that has been fine. It comes up as a Prolific Technology PL2303 Serial Port in the USB vendor id db.

-sd

On Oct 26, 2006, at 5:35 PM, David J. Craig wrote:

I use a PPA Int’l Item #3312 that I got a Fry’s for about $20. It uses a Prolific Serial port driver to enumerate a serial port. This will only work for the host system. I do use a RJ-45 cable to connect the two computers with a serial to RJ-45 adapter on both ends - one of which has the pins crossed to form a null modem connection. Ethernet cables are much better than cheap serial cables.

“Edouard A.” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…

A problem with the serial port of your laptop perhaps?

From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Arosh
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 18:19
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: [windbg] Hyper terminal failure (Belkin usb to serial + null cable)

Hi All,

I’m using a Belkin USB to serial cable adapter on my laptop with a null cable that works just fine (when I connect two desktop)

The Hyper terminal test doesn’t seem to work for me on any com port. I have fallowed trough the instruction and even tried few Ideas from a previous thread that was published here but still.nothing helps, any good or bad ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Maybe other hardware(usb to serial adapter) recommendations

Regards,

Daniel

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