Gossip (was before RE: CD /DVD read only filter)

> If a human has access to data, then they

have access to data. There is no way to stop them from disseminating
that data if they chose to do so. Worst case, they memorize it or write
it down on a napkin and take it home.

I think we are getting far from the initial problem here. Pardon me for this
flaming: It will be lot of fun to see someone writing down to a napkin the
roughly 10 000 000 000 bytes a DVD contains. :-p Either you are writing very
small or you have quite a big napkin.

Somewhere there is a reason why people use our CD/DVD recording products
rather than napkins (or floppy, this weird kind of extended napkin!).

I guess you will get the point that nobody will get out with much data once
you locked usb ports, floppy, optical storage, etc. for the basic user
thanks to software. While privileged user may still output their data
without the need of a screw-driver to get back in the recorder some people
suggested to take out.

Best regards,

David Burg


David Burg
Software Development,
InCD and Low Level Drivers Project Leader

Nero AG phone: +49 (0)7248 928 327 (room line) Internal VoIP
-363
Im Stoeckmaedle 18 fax: +49 (0)7248 928 299
76307 Karlsbad email: xxxxx@nero.com
Germany http://www.nero.com

Hi David,

You are right that perhaps this is a bit off topic. And actually, I
don’t think you are flaming, you have an absolutely valid point that I’m
surprised no one else made before now. You can’t memorize Gigabytes of
data, so the approach of locking down output devices would work to
prevent indiscriminate copying and pirating of software packages, etc…

But you could memorize an algorithm or a list of sales contacts. And
source code usually zips and fits very nicely onto extended napkins
(floppys, or even Email attachments). All of these could be much more
damaging than the simple CD copy you protected yourself from. Guess it
depends what exactly you are trying to do and what the perceptions are.

Best Regards,
-Mike

David Burg wrote:

>If a human has access to data, then they
>have access to data. There is no way to stop them from disseminating
>that data if they chose to do so. Worst case, they memorize it or write
>it down on a napkin and take it home.
>
>

I think we are getting far from the initial problem here. Pardon me for this
flaming: It will be lot of fun to see someone writing down to a napkin the
roughly 10 000 000 000 bytes a DVD contains. :-p Either you are writing very
small or you have quite a big napkin.

Somewhere there is a reason why people use our CD/DVD recording products
rather than napkins (or floppy, this weird kind of extended napkin!).

I guess you will get the point that nobody will get out with much data once
you locked usb ports, floppy, optical storage, etc. for the basic user
thanks to software. While privileged user may still output their data
without the need of a screw-driver to get back in the recorder some people
suggested to take out.

Best regards,

David Burg


David Burg
Software Development,
InCD and Low Level Drivers Project Leader

Nero AG phone: +49 (0)7248 928 327 (room line) Internal VoIP
-363
Im Stoeckmaedle 18 fax: +49 (0)7248 928 299
76307 Karlsbad email: xxxxx@nero.com
Germany http://www.nero.com


Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256

You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@hologic.com
To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com

With one of our (Seagate) USB 1" drives I have a mega-extended napkin of 5
gigs. So block the CD, it’s only 600 meg anyway.

What David Burg said is true. If data is accessible to a ten toed biped in
unencrypted form, rest assured that ten toed biped will find a way to pilfer
it if they want to. If you fear write-able CD/DVDs then remove them.
However, before long you will end up with no floppies, no USB ports, no
printer ports and most likely no any kind of ports with possible
bi-directional data. Hmmm … sounds like a monitor only. Oh yeah better put
the monitor in an EMF proof container since much can be learned from EM
fields.


The personal opinion of
Gary G. Little

“Michael Becker” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Hi David,
>
> You are right that perhaps this is a bit off topic. And actually, I don’t
> think you are flaming, you have an absolutely valid point that I’m
> surprised no one else made before now. You can’t memorize Gigabytes of
> data, so the approach of locking down output devices would work to prevent
> indiscriminate copying and pirating of software packages, etc…
> But you could memorize an algorithm or a list of sales contacts. And
> source code usually zips and fits very nicely onto extended napkins
> (floppys, or even Email attachments). All of these could be much more
> damaging than the simple CD copy you protected yourself from. Guess it
> depends what exactly you are trying to do and what the perceptions are.
> Best Regards,
> -Mike
>
>
> David Burg wrote:
>
>>>If a human has access to data, then they
>>>have access to data. There is no way to stop them from disseminating
>>>that data if they chose to do so. Worst case, they memorize it or write
>>>it down on a napkin and take it home.
>>
>>I think we are getting far from the initial problem here. Pardon me for
>>this
>>flaming: It will be lot of fun to see someone writing down to a napkin the
>>roughly 10 000 000 000 bytes a DVD contains. :-p Either you are writing
>>very
>>small or you have quite a big napkin.
>>
>>Somewhere there is a reason why people use our CD/DVD recording products
>>rather than napkins (or floppy, this weird kind of extended napkin!).
>>
>>I guess you will get the point that nobody will get out with much data
>>once
>>you locked usb ports, floppy, optical storage, etc. for the basic user
>>thanks to software. While privileged user may still output their data
>>without the need of a screw-driver to get back in the recorder some people
>>suggested to take out.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>David Burg
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------
>>David Burg
>>Software Development,
>>InCD and Low Level Drivers Project Leader
>>
>>Nero AG phone: +49 (0)7248 928 327 (room line) Internal VoIP
>>-363
>>Im Stoeckmaedle 18 fax: +49 (0)7248 928 299
>>76307 Karlsbad email: xxxxx@nero.com
>>Germany http://www.nero.com
>>----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>—
>>Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
>>http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>>
>>You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@hologic.com
>>To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>>
>>
>