Windows 8/Server 2012 RTM coming

>

Of SOME type. With tiles and touch screens, perhaps.

Have a look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergonomics and then explain how a touch screen is going to be a useful method of data entry. I just don’t see it happening for anything but a toy that you use for short periods of time, once the workplace lawsuits start happening. Sure you can attach a keyboard and mouse to it, but then you effectively have a laptop. Also this http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/tablets/switching-from-a-computer-to-ipad-could-be-a-pain-in-the-neck-ergonomics-experts-warn/story-fn5qlb5w-1226113141390

For most tasks, any device that requires me to regularly take my hands off the keyboard to get something done has ruined my productivity.

My guess is that we’ll have PC’s until you can plug a data input device into your skull.

James

While the point is TRUE ( i.e as opposed to server and client, these toys
are temporal), I think metro is the trend. B/C in a household there would
be one or two ( of a family size of say four) desktop/laptop. But there
could be four phones and four pads/tablet or whatever.

We programmer loves these key boards, since our play is with the alphabets.
For others, web browsing/messaging/social/game/movie — a total
entertainment space. Ours have been a working space, totally different.
_I’ve never seen anyone outside programming likes PC/laptop that much,
actually they all hates it, well unless there is an esthetic/prestige
value, like a digital TV

10 yrs down the road , we will see there are way more device running winRT,
then Win32. And every one would say. “Yeah, it’s finger licking KFC…”

-pro

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:19 PM, James Harper <
xxxxx@bendigoit.com.au> wrote:

>
> [quote]
> If MSFT manages to get metro accepted then at least for a while longer
there
> will be pcs.
> [/quote]
>
> Of SOME type. With tiles and touch screens, perhaps.
>

Have a look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergonomics and then
explain how a touch screen is going to be a useful method of data entry. I
just don’t see it happening for anything but a toy that you use for short
periods of time, once the workplace lawsuits start happening. Sure you can
attach a keyboard and mouse to it, but then you effectively have a laptop.
Also this
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/tablets/switching-from-a-computer-to-ipad-could-be-a-pain-in-the-neck-ergonomics-experts-warn/story-fn5qlb5w-1226113141390

For most tasks, any device that requires me to regularly take my hands off
the keyboard to get something done has ruined my productivity.

My guess is that we’ll have PC’s until you can plug a data input device
into your skull.

James


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On 7/14/2012 2:27 AM, Prokash Sinha wrote:

While the point is TRUE ( i.e as opposed to server and client, these
toys are temporal), I think metro is the trend. B/C in a household
there would be one or two ( of a family size of say four)
desktop/laptop. But there could be four phones and four pads/tablet or
whatever.

These are really consoles. They’re likely to replace console gaming.

James

What about surface? Is it not winRT? I think it is…

Also the mango with metro ( win phone ).

-pro

On Jul 14, 2012, at 6:40 AM, James Bellinger wrote:

On 7/14/2012 2:27 AM, Prokash Sinha wrote:
> While the point is TRUE ( i.e as opposed to server and client, these toys are temporal), I think metro is the trend. B/C in a household there would be one or two ( of a family size of say four) desktop/laptop. But there could be four phones and four pads/tablet or whatever.
>
These are really consoles. They’re likely to replace console gaming.

James


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Yes, those are different shapes.

Consoles have always been more numerous than PCs.

Cheap. Excellent for pacifying children.

One or two (of a family size of say four) are the number who work and
acquire currency.

Nothing new here.

James

On 7/14/2012 12:19 PM, Prokash Sinha wrote:

What about surface? Is it not winRT? I think it is…

Also the mango with metro ( win phone ).

-pro

On Jul 14, 2012, at 6:40 AM, James Bellinger wrote:

> On 7/14/2012 2:27 AM, Prokash Sinha wrote:
>> While the point is TRUE ( i.e as opposed to server and client, these toys are temporal), I think metro is the trend. B/C in a household there would be one or two ( of a family size of say four) desktop/laptop. But there could be four phones and four pads/tablet or whatever.
>>
> These are really consoles. They’re likely to replace console gaming.
>
> James
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No, it is because it’s primary hardware base is ARM which, unlike x86, does not have a common denominator like BIOS that allows the OS to discover everything about the chipset specifics at the run time. As a result, ARM-based system has to be tightly-coupled - if your device came with OS A installed on it you cannot replace it with OS B, because the OS has to be designed to work with the specific CPU and board…

This makes sense only as long as hardware prices are SIGNIFICANTLY higher than those of the software, so that you may want to update the old device with the new OS. However, the trend is exactly the opposite, don’t you think. In fact, I think it is simply not in hardware vendor’s interests to work in this direction - after all, they want you to spend your money on a new device, rather than reusing the old one, right…

Anton Bassov