Ah Michal, some threads trigger typing activity…
In fact I also have Softice available and debug with it as needed.
It has its strengths and it is worth the money.
I am developing my drivers on a XP Host to a XP target with
windbg/firewire now (most of the time).
With this combination it is very comfortable
-
because you can easily use the the microsoft symbolserver.
All symbols are up to date.
(Murphy: you just do not have the matching .nms file loaded)
-
to use .kdfiles. This loads the freshly compiled driver from my Host
to the Target on next boot. Can save a lot of time/trouble !
( no double reboots with xcopy driver/nms !)
-
use the native debug-extensions for windbg.
( I once tried to convert them for Softice, but failed. Too
complicated!)
Norbert.
“All generalizations are false.”
---- snip ----
Lets re-start the neverending thread #3 
> Did I mentioned that windbg with firewire is not quick enough to
> handle debug-outs in an usb driver with isochronous pipes 
>
SoftICE could help there; it is fast enough in UVD mode and traps bugchecks
so you’d see everything.
> But here is the workaround (works for me):
> Run ‘debugview’ on the target and deselect ‘pass-through’.
> The only problem now is, when your target bugchecks you can not access
> the debuglog of ‘debugview’ in windbg.
>
Have you tried Process Crash Dump feature?
---- snip ----
Mileage varies. I’ve found 1394 quicker but not that much for what I do.
That said, given the modest cost of a couple of 1394 cards, I would do
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Not to mention the ability to map driver files and avoid the need to boot to
safe mode to push a new driver to the test system.
Oh yeah, and let’s not forget the Symbol server feature which alleviates the
need to make sure you have the correct symbol files loaded for your test
system.
Sure you can run on the same machine, but God help you if you severely crash
it. Let’s hope you’ve been backing up your source code!
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windbg over serial was a bit pokey, but now that I’ve switched over to
1394 debugging with windbg is much quicker for me.
-p
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Ryan [mailto:xxxxx@nryan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:52 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
Speed of debugging. SoftIce on the same machine is inifinitly faster
than WinDbg over serial.
- Nicholas Ryan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of David J. Craig
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
>
>
> There are a few reasons to use SoftIce, but they are nearly
> as important as they used to be:
>
> Windows 9x, forget anything provided by Microsoft and use
> SoftIce. If you use it for 9x, it is much easier to use it
> for NT as well.
>
> Boss too stupid to buy a second system, but SoftIce costs
> more. Different budget maybe?
>
> You have money to burn. In that case, why not buy a real ICE?
>
> The ability to package the source and debug info into a
> single file is one advantage to SoftIce.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Dan Partelly”
> To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:37 PM
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
>
>
> > Especially when other symbolic debuggers for drivers are
> avilable for
> > 0$.
> =)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: “Russ Poffenberger”
> > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:14 PM
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > > At 08:35 AM 11/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >Still costs to much … 
> > >
> > > Not if you like to use it for source level debugging of
> your driver
> code.
> > > Works great for that!
> > >
> > >
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Not to mention the ability to map driver files and avoid the need to boot
to
safe mode to push a new driver to the test system.
Why? Driver should be unloadable (when possible) so there is no need for
boot. And safe mode is necessary for protected files only.
Oh yeah, and let’s not forget the Symbol server feature which alleviates
the
need to make sure you have the correct symbol files loaded for your test
system.
Yes, it is an advantage.
Sure you can run on the same machine, but God help you if you severely
crash
it. Let’s hope you’ve been backing up your source code!
It isn’t so dangerous. I debug NT drivers using SoftICE for more than six
years and never lost my sources or anything else. The ‘secret’ is System
Internals Sync utility; simply flush disk caches before driver load/test.
Sure, this isn’t applicable for all kinds of drivers and for some I would
probably also use remote debugging.
Best regards,
Michal Vodicka
STMicroelectronics Design and Application s.r.o.
[michal.vodicka@st.com, http:://www.st.com]
But WinDbg is free. Oh … well … you do have to download it.
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“Russ Poffenberger” wrote in message
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>
> At 08:35 AM 11/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Still costs to much …
>
> Not if you like to use it for source level debugging of your driver code.
> Works great for that!
>
>
> Russ Poffenberger
> NPTest, Inc.
> xxxxx@NPTest.com
>
>
>
>
>
Hocky puck.
I spend more time booting my systems during heavy debug than worryiung about
how slow the serial lines are (and I run mine at 115.2K).
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>
> Speed of debugging. SoftIce on the same machine is inifinitly faster
> than WinDbg over serial.
>
> - Nicholas Ryan
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of David J. Craig
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > There are a few reasons to use SoftIce, but they are nearly
> > as important as they used to be:
> >
> > Windows 9x, forget anything provided by Microsoft and use
> > SoftIce. If you use it for 9x, it is much easier to use it
> > for NT as well.
> >
> > Boss too stupid to buy a second system, but SoftIce costs
> > more. Different budget maybe?
> >
> > You have money to burn. In that case, why not buy a real ICE?
> >
> > The ability to package the source and debug info into a
> > single file is one advantage to SoftIce.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: “Dan Partelly”
> > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:37 PM
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > > Especially when other symbolic debuggers for drivers are
> > avilable for
> > > 0$.
> > =)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: “Russ Poffenberger”
> > > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:14 PM
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > >
> > >
> > > > At 08:35 AM 11/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > >Still costs to much …
> > > >
> > > > Not if you like to use it for source level debugging of
> > your driver
> > code.
> > > > Works great for that!
> > > >
> > > >
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When it takes half a second to step over a single instruction (as it
does in WinDbg with several windows open over serial), and you’re
stepping through pages of ntoskrnl disassembly to find out exactly why
that rename operation is failing, then the difference becomes apparent.
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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Gary G. Little
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:48 AM
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Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
Hocky puck.
I spend more time booting my systems during heavy debug than
worryiung about how slow the serial lines are (and I run mine
at 115.2K).
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“Nicholas Ryan” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > Speed of debugging. SoftIce on the same machine is
> inifinitly faster
> > than WinDbg over serial.
> >
> > - Nicholas Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
> David J. Craig
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> > > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > >
> > >
> > > There are a few reasons to use SoftIce, but they are nearly as
> > > important as they used to be:
> > >
> > > Windows 9x, forget anything provided by Microsoft and use
> SoftIce.
> > > If you use it for 9x, it is much easier to use it for NT as well.
> > >
> > > Boss too stupid to buy a second system, but SoftIce costs more.
> > > Different budget maybe?
> > >
> > > You have money to burn. In that case, why not buy a real ICE?
> > >
> > > The ability to package the source and debug info into a
> single file
> > > is one advantage to SoftIce.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: “Dan Partelly”
> > > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:37 PM
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > >
> > >
> > > > Especially when other symbolic debuggers for drivers are
> > > avilable for
> > > > 0$.
> > > =)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: “Russ Poffenberger”
> > > > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:14 PM
> > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > At 08:35 AM 11/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > > >Still costs to much …
> > > > >
> > > > > Not if you like to use it for source level debugging of
> > > your driver
> > > code.
> > > > > Works great for that!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Russ Poffenberger
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…but it cannot save debug logs to files for further analyzis.
Max
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> Speed of debugging. SoftIce on the same machine is inifinitly faster
> than WinDbg over serial.
>
> - Nicholas Ryan
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of David J.
Craig
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > There are a few reasons to use SoftIce, but they are nearly
> > as important as they used to be:
> >
> > Windows 9x, forget anything provided by Microsoft and use
> > SoftIce. If you use it for 9x, it is much easier to use it
> > for NT as well.
> >
> > Boss too stupid to buy a second system, but SoftIce costs
> > more. Different budget maybe?
> >
> > You have money to burn. In that case, why not buy a real ICE?
> >
> > The ability to package the source and debug info into a
> > single file is one advantage to SoftIce.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: “Dan Partelly”
> > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:37 PM
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > > Especially when other symbolic debuggers for drivers are
> > avilable for
> > > 0$.
> > =)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: “Russ Poffenberger”
> > > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:14 PM
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > >
> > >
> > > > At 08:35 AM 11/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > >Still costs to much …
> > > >
> > > > Not if you like to use it for source level debugging of
> > your driver
> > code.
> > > > Works great for that!
> > > >
> > > >
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DriverMonitor does that. It’s part of the package.
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:49 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
…but it cannot save debug logs to files for further analyzis.
Max
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> Speed of debugging. SoftIce on the same machine is inifinitly faster
> than WinDbg over serial.
>
> - Nicholas Ryan
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of David J.
Craig
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > There are a few reasons to use SoftIce, but they are nearly
> > as important as they used to be:
> >
> > Windows 9x, forget anything provided by Microsoft and use
> > SoftIce. If you use it for 9x, it is much easier to use it
> > for NT as well.
> >
> > Boss too stupid to buy a second system, but SoftIce costs
> > more. Different budget maybe?
> >
> > You have money to burn. In that case, why not buy a real ICE?
> >
> > The ability to package the source and debug info into a
> > single file is one advantage to SoftIce.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: “Dan Partelly”
> > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:37 PM
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > > Especially when other symbolic debuggers for drivers are
> > avilable for
> > > 0$.
> > =)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: “Russ Poffenberger”
> > > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:14 PM
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > >
> > >
> > > > At 08:35 AM 11/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > >Still costs to much …
> > > >
> > > > Not if you like to use it for source level debugging of
> > your driver
> > code.
> > > > Works great for that!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Russ Poffenberger
> > > > NPTest, Inc.
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DriverMonitor does that. It’s part of the package.
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…but it cannot save debug logs to files for further analyzis.
Max
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> Speed of debugging. SoftIce on the same machine is inifinitly faster
> than WinDbg over serial.
>
> - Nicholas Ryan
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of David J.
Craig
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > There are a few reasons to use SoftIce, but they are nearly
> > as important as they used to be:
> >
> > Windows 9x, forget anything provided by Microsoft and use
> > SoftIce. If you use it for 9x, it is much easier to use it
> > for NT as well.
> >
> > Boss too stupid to buy a second system, but SoftIce costs
> > more. Different budget maybe?
> >
> > You have money to burn. In that case, why not buy a real ICE?
> >
> > The ability to package the source and debug info into a
> > single file is one advantage to SoftIce.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: “Dan Partelly”
> > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:37 PM
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > > Especially when other symbolic debuggers for drivers are
> > avilable for
> > > 0$.
> > =)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: “Russ Poffenberger”
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:14 PM
> > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > >
> > >
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> > > > >Still costs to much …
> > > >
> > > > Not if you like to use it for source level debugging of
> > your driver
> > code.
> > > > Works great for that!
> > > >
> > > >
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So?
I’m in debug, I’m not expecting to bust any speed records in DEBUG. And yes
I SPEND a LOT of time stepping through disassembled machine code. Oh well
… maybe my patience has matured with all the gray hair.
Over 10 years I’ve used both SI and WinDbg. I prefer remote debug and the
cost of WinDbg. And that is an opion. And like assholes, we all have one.
–
Gary G. Little
Have Computer, Will Travel …
909-698-3191
909-551-2105
“Nicholas Ryan” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> When it takes half a second to step over a single instruction (as it
> does in WinDbg with several windows open over serial), and you’re
> stepping through pages of ntoskrnl disassembly to find out exactly why
> that rename operation is failing, then the difference becomes apparent.
>
>
> - Nicholas Ryan
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Gary G. Little
> > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:48 AM
> > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> >
> >
> > Hocky puck.
> >
> > I spend more time booting my systems during heavy debug than
> > worryiung about how slow the serial lines are (and I run mine
> > at 115.2K).
> >
> > –
> > Gary G. Little
> > Have Computer, Will Travel …
> > 909-698-3191
> > 909-551-2105
> >
> > “Nicholas Ryan” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > >
> > > Speed of debugging. SoftIce on the same machine is
> > inifinitly faster
> > > than WinDbg over serial.
> > >
> > > - Nicholas Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > > > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
> > David J. Craig
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> > > > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are a few reasons to use SoftIce, but they are nearly as
> > > > important as they used to be:
> > > >
> > > > Windows 9x, forget anything provided by Microsoft and use
> > SoftIce.
> > > > If you use it for 9x, it is much easier to use it for NT as well.
> > > >
> > > > Boss too stupid to buy a second system, but SoftIce costs more.
> > > > Different budget maybe?
> > > >
> > > > You have money to burn. In that case, why not buy a real ICE?
> > > >
> > > > The ability to package the source and debug info into a
> > single file
> > > > is one advantage to SoftIce.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: “Dan Partelly”
> > > > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:37 PM
> > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Especially when other symbolic debuggers for drivers are
> > > > avilable for
> > > > > 0$.
> > > > =)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: “Russ Poffenberger”
> > > > > To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:14 PM
> > > > > Subject: [ntdev] Re: Disassembler Suggestions
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > At 08:35 AM 11/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Still costs to much …
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not if you like to use it for source level debugging of
> > > > your driver
> > > > code.
> > > > > > Works great for that!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Russ Poffenberger
> > > > > > NPTest, Inc.
> > > > > > xxxxx@NPTest.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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