That would be the box that, on the order of once per week, performs the
belly button stare followed by manual power intervention?
I agree that within the confines of a restricted programming environment
some smart people might get the compiler right. All bets are off on a
general purpose system.
Mark Roddy
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:
>
> Now, I’ll grant that the Trimedia has so far survived only in a niche
> (although a large niche – odds are the set top box from your satellite
> or cable company has a Trimedia in it), so maybe your assessment is not
> so far off.
Plus I should read the other messages before violating edicts. Sorry, over
and out.
Mark Roddy
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Mark Roddy wrote:
> That would be the box that, on the order of once per week, performs the
> belly button stare followed by manual power intervention?
>
> I agree that within the confines of a restricted programming environment
> some smart people might get the compiler right. All bets are off on a
> general purpose system.
>
> Mark Roddy
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:
>
>>
>> Now, I’ll grant that the Trimedia has so far survived only in a niche
>> (although a large niche – odds are the set top box from your satellite
>> or cable company has a Trimedia in it), so maybe your assessment is not
>> so far off.
>
>
>
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 10:14:15AM -0400, xxxxx@osr.com wrote:
THIRD, *the* limiting problem for x64 has always been driver support.
Linux systems don’t support one TENTH of the devices supported by
Windows.
Just a small note to correct this inaccurate statement. Linux actually
supports more devices than any other operating system, including
Windows. It has been this way for quite a number of years, and this
fact has been independantly verified by Microsoft itself (off-the-record
of course.)
thanks,
greg k-h
Great note Greg :),
Aram, I like the level of abstraction that the linux kernel has and I like the stability that FreeBSD has.
Only if you count TiVo and mass spectrometers and other similar instruments.
But next time I try to get my multi-monitor Nvidia system, or my laptop with a wifi card, doing something useful… I’ll certainly think of how great the device support is on Linux.
Clearly, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one…
Peter
OSR
Well, just one data point…If you read and follow the instructions
exactly, getting dual monitors to work (very well) under Ubuntu Linux on my
quad-core was a piece of cake for me and I am NOT a Linux guru by any
stretch. I also had no problems with ALL of the hardware (WiFi, touch
buttons, etc) on my HP dv6120 with plain vanilla ubuntu. It wasn’t until
Windows 7 did that work without a ton of special drivers from HP. My
ExpressCard eSATA adapter worked out of the box with Ubuntu and I had to go
get special drivers for Windows 7 from the manufacture’s web site.
Having used and abused both, my experience is that Linux supports mainstream
hardware far better than Windows.
Greg (not the same one)
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Only if you count TiVo and mass spectrometers and other similar instruments.
But next time I try to get my multi-monitor Nvidia system, or my laptop with
a wifi card, doing something useful… I’ll certainly think of how great the
device support is on Linux.
Clearly, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one…
Peter
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Guys,
Actually, we are already discussing it with Peter and few other participants on NTTALK - you can check our argumentation there…
Anton Bassov
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:12:30AM -0400, xxxxx@osr.com wrote:
Only if you count TiVo and mass spectrometers and other similar instruments.
I’m curious as to why you would not consider those valid devices? Are
they not valid platforms to support?
But next time I try to get my multi-monitor Nvidia system, or my
laptop with a wifi card, doing something useful… I’ll certainly
think of how great the device support is on Linux.
I have multi-monitor systems working as well as every wifi device
currently known, working just fine “out of the box” today.
Seriously, the “there is no drivers for Linux” myth was disproven a long
time ago, please don’t perpetuate it.
Clearly, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one…
Clearly 
thanks,
greg k-h