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RE: Example with ExInitializeNPagedLookasideList with- Non-PagedPoolMus-tSucceed will blue screen.

OSR_Community_UserOSR_Community_User Member Posts: 110,217
While I agree that it isn't a "hidden danger waiting to happen" in this
particular SCSI case, I do think that anyone else's code that copied the
same flag is scary. For example, for us, the bad code has been in the field
for 2 years -- it wasn't until a particularly heavy load showed up that the
entire "must succeed" pool got used up and the system blue screened. Worse
yet, the external load didn't go away, and so the system kept rebooting for
the customer every 15 minutes after it came up.

The thing that bugs me is that that example source code (the only example of
that function) did not follow the rules that are given in the DDK
-- the flag that they passed was invalid; they should have used
POOL_RAISE_IF_ALLOCATION_FAILURE, which I'm assuming is the same value
[oddly, I could not find it in any header files]
-- there was not comment in the code saying that they were doing
something weird
-- the "usage guidelines" for the must succeed pool specifically say
that it is to be used ONLY for emergency situations after the normal pool
allocation has failed, and that it is for temporary use only and must be
freed as soon as possible.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Bunn [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 09 May, 2000 2:25 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] RE: Example with ExInitializeNPagedLookasideList with
> Non PagedPoolMus tSucceed will blue screen.
> I don't think it's a bug in the CLASS driver (just sloppy
> programming --
> programmers too lazy to do implement specific KeBugCheckEx
> calls) -- since
> every disk and tape driver is using this code, it is
> obviously robust. The
> class drivers dependent on
> ScsiClassInitializeSrbLookasideList do not ask
> for more than 4 elements, so the resource usage is extremely light.
> Regards,
> Paul Bunn,, 425-644-6000
> Microsoft MVP - WindowsNT/2000
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taed Nelson [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 11:08 AM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Example with ExInitializeNPagedLookasideList with
> NonPagedPoolMus tSucceed will blue screen.
> [I have already submitted this bug to the DDK bug reports,
> but thought I'd
> share it with all of you, since it's potentially very bad. I suggest
> everyone search their code base for the same bug!]
> The only code example of ExInitializeNPagedLookasideList in
> either the NT
> 4.0 DDK or MSDN is in CLASS.C, which is a SCSI driver. However, this
> example specifies the flag NonPagedPoolMustSucceed.
> There are two problems with this.
> First, that flag is not valid. The documentation for
> ExInitializeNPagedLookasideList clearly states that the flags
> should nearly
> always be 0, except for the rare POOL_RAISE_IF_ALLOCATION_FAILURE.
> Second, if the flag NonPagedPoolMustSucceed is specified, all
> allocations
> for that lookaside list (not just the initialization) will be
> from the "must
> succeed" pool.
> The "must succeed" pool is a very scarce resource, which is
> only about 16 KB
> large. If the lookaside list happens to exhaust that memory,
> it will cause
> a blue screen, namely event 0x00000041, MUST_SUCCEED_POOL_EMPTY.
> A programmer here had copied the code from the DDK for our
> project, and we
> would get that blue screen under high load. It took us a few
> days to track
> it down to using the "must succeed" pool instead of the normal pool.
> I feel that is a serious bug in the CLASS.C code, which will
> cause bugs in
> other people's code since it is the only example of the
> ExInitializeNPagedLookasideList function.
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