RE: [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem

NTDEV
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Did you check the BIOS revision levels? It usually shows this as you’re
restarting the system. Also, check with the manufacturer’s web site to see
if there are any BIOS updates.

Greg

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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Konstantin Manurin
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:34 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] RE: [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem

Hello Gregory,

Thursday, October 25, 2001, 6:02:47 PM, you wrote:

GGD> I would check the BIOS revision dates and/or the motherboard hardware
GGD> revision levels. There may be a difference there. If it is a BIOS
GGD> revision, you could probably obtain a BIOS update and flash the BIOS.

GGD> Which motherboard is this? Some motherboards are better than others.
My
GGD> GigaByte 6BXD (Dual PIII) still does not run W2K exactly right even
after 4
GGD> BIOS updates. There is still a problem in the USB support. Just an
GGD> example.

GGD> Greg

GGD> -----Original Message-----
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GGD> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Konstantin Manurin
GGD> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:16 AM
GGD> To: NT Developers Interest List
GGD> Subject: [ntdev] [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem

GGD> Hi all,

GGD> Me and my boss both have almost identical computers: same
GGD> motherboards, same chipsets, same floppies and hard-drives, same
GGD> memory DIMMs but slightly different size (128 and 192 MB), same
GGD> keyboards and mice, but I have a CD-ROM and my boss have a DVD-ROM.
GGD> The latter is the only difference. But my boss have Windows 2k with
GGD> ACPI enabled, and I don’t. I forgot to say that we have same BIOSes.
GGD> Can anybody give me a clue??? Why can’t I enable ACPI support on my
GGD> machine??? I forcedly changed Standard PC to PC with ACPI support in
GGD> Windows 2k Device Manager, but after reboot I received a BSOD with
GGD> error code ACPI_BIOS_ERROR (0x000000A5)… Strange, but in Windows 98
GGD> my computer supports an ACPI stuff and passes ACPI Hardware
GGD> Compatibility Tests.

GGD> All recommendations will be highly appreciated :))

GGD> –
GGD> Thanks beforehand,
GGD> Konstantin Manurin (aka NizeG) xxxxx@infpres.com
GGD> xxxxx@beep.ru
GGD> xxxxx@yandex.ru

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My motherboard is Iwill VD133 (VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipset) with P-III
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Konstantin:

I asked if you and your boss were using the same CPU
because sometimes there are slightly differences
(almost imperceptible) between models and revision
levels.

Forcing ACPI support in Win2K Device Manager may not be
enough. As Max noted, you may have to assign proper
BIOS setup values (look in your motherboard manual)
before Win2K recognizes ACPI support.

You should also note that the Pentium III 533B has a
512Kb L2 cache size (4 Gb address range); your
motherboard should support both the right chipset and
an appropriate voltage regulator (again, check your
motherboard specs in the manual).

There are some reported problems with the ASUS P2B-F
BIOS rev 1.008a and rev 1.013a boards (Microsoft
released an article stating that the BIOS rev 1.008
for this board would cause the system not to resume
from standby); SuperMicro boards also have problems:
the S2DGE models won’t let you have both ACPI and
WOL functional: you can’t enable the WOL because it
requires APM enabled and you can’t have both APM and
ACPI on (SuperMicro says this is a problem on newer
BIOSes only).

The Iwill VD133 motherboard comes with an AWARD BIOS,
thus the above mentioned problems are likely not to
happen, but the board may have some particular
(unknown?) quirk preventing you from enabling ACPI.

If nothing else works, you should know that Via
Technologies drivers are distributed as “VIA Service
Packs”, also commonly known as “VIA 4 In 1” system
driver distribution packages, which are intended to
“improve the performance and maintain the stability
of systems using VIA chipsets. These 4 drivers are:
VIA Registry (INF) driver, VIA AGP VxD driver, VIA
ATAPI Vendor Support driver and VIA PCI IRQ Miniport
driver. The 4in1 drivers automatically detect your
o.s. and will install ONLY what is necessary.”

To get the latest drivers for your motherboard go to:

http://www.motherboards.org/drivers/p/4in1-Drivers/4070.html

Download the .ZIP file, unpack and run SETUP.EXE.

Hope it helps, :slight_smile:

Miguel Monteiro
xxxxx@criticalsoftware.com

Critical Software, S.A. - http://www.criticalsoftware.com
111 North Market Street, 6th floor, San Jose, CA, USA, 95113
Tel: +1.408.9711231, Fax +1.408.9383929
R. Pedro Nunes, IPN, 3030-199 Coimbra, Portugal
Tel: +351.239.700945 - Fax: +351.239.700905

DISCLAIMER: This mail contents represent
my own personal opinions and do not, in any way,
represent the opinion or policy of Critical Software, S.A.

“Humour and love are God’s answers
to Human weaknesses” =:o)8

“MIGUEL MONTEIRO” wrote:
Same CPU???.. :)))

[Konstantin] replied:
Yes, same models with same frequencies.

“GREGORY G. DYESS” wrote:
Did you check the BIOS revision levels? It usually shows
this as you’re restarting the system. Also, check with
the manufacturer’s web site to see if there are any BIOS
updates.

[Konstantin] replied:
My motherboard is Iwill VD133 (VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipset)
with P-III 533B installed.

“MAXIM S. SHATSKIH” wrote:
BIOS setup values can be important.
For instance, on old APM machines, switching off power
management in BIOS setup causes ALL kinds of software to
consider the machine as non-APM.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Konstantin Manurin”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:15 PM
Subject: [ntdev] [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem

Hi all,

Me and my boss both have almost identical computers: same
motherboards, same chipsets, same floppies and hard-drives, same
memory DIMMs but slightly different size (128 and 192 MB), same
keyboards and mice, but I have a CD-ROM and my boss have a DVD-ROM.
The latter is the only difference. But my boss have Windows 2k with
ACPI enabled, and I don’t. I forgot to say that we have same BIOSes.
Can anybody give me a clue??? Why can’t I enable ACPI support on my
machine??? I forcedly changed Standard PC to PC with ACPI support in
Windows 2k Device Manager, but after reboot I received a BSOD with
error code ACPI_BIOS_ERROR (0x000000A5)… Strange, but in Windows 98
my computer supports an ACPI stuff and passes ACPI Hardware
Compatibility Tests.

All recommendations will be highly appreciated :))

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Hmmm, my experience was that switching from acpi to non-acpi simply required
booting off the appropriate hal, as long as the motherboard itself was acpi
compliant. Obviously a non-acpi motherboard can’t be promoted to acpi, but
acpi->non-acpi is supported for backwards compatibility with backwards
operating systems.)

I’d forget about the device manager thing and instead do the boot.ini /HAL=
adjustment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Monteiro [mailto:xxxxx@criticalsoftware.com]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:06 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: ACPI support problem

Konstantin:

I asked if you and your boss were using the same CPU
because sometimes there are slightly differences
(almost imperceptible) between models and revision
levels.

Forcing ACPI support in Win2K Device Manager may not be
enough. As Max noted, you may have to assign proper
BIOS setup values (look in your motherboard manual)
before Win2K recognizes ACPI support.

You should also note that the Pentium III 533B has a
512Kb L2 cache size (4 Gb address range); your
motherboard should support both the right chipset and
an appropriate voltage regulator (again, check your
motherboard specs in the manual).

There are some reported problems with the ASUS P2B-F
BIOS rev 1.008a and rev 1.013a boards (Microsoft
released an article stating that the BIOS rev 1.008
for this board would cause the system not to resume
from standby); SuperMicro boards also have problems:
the S2DGE models won’t let you have both ACPI and
WOL functional: you can’t enable the WOL because it
requires APM enabled and you can’t have both APM and
ACPI on (SuperMicro says this is a problem on newer
BIOSes only).

The Iwill VD133 motherboard comes with an AWARD BIOS,
thus the above mentioned problems are likely not to
happen, but the board may have some particular
(unknown?) quirk preventing you from enabling ACPI.

If nothing else works, you should know that Via
Technologies drivers are distributed as “VIA Service
Packs”, also commonly known as “VIA 4 In 1” system
driver distribution packages, which are intended to
“improve the performance and maintain the stability
of systems using VIA chipsets. These 4 drivers are:
VIA Registry (INF) driver, VIA AGP VxD driver, VIA
ATAPI Vendor Support driver and VIA PCI IRQ Miniport
driver. The 4in1 drivers automatically detect your
o.s. and will install ONLY what is necessary.”

To get the latest drivers for your motherboard go to:

http://www.motherboards.org/drivers/p/4in1-Drivers/4070.html

Download the .ZIP file, unpack and run SETUP.EXE.

Hope it helps, :slight_smile:

Miguel Monteiro
xxxxx@criticalsoftware.com

Critical Software, S.A. - http://www.criticalsoftware.com
111 North Market Street, 6th floor, San Jose, CA, USA, 95113
Tel: +1.408.9711231, Fax +1.408.9383929
R. Pedro Nunes, IPN, 3030-199 Coimbra, Portugal
Tel: +351.239.700945 - Fax: +351.239.700905

DISCLAIMER: This mail contents represent
my own personal opinions and do not, in any way,
represent the opinion or policy of Critical Software, S.A.

“Humour and love are God’s answers
to Human weaknesses” =:o)8

“MIGUEL MONTEIRO” wrote:
Same CPU???.. :)))

[Konstantin] replied:
Yes, same models with same frequencies.

“GREGORY G. DYESS” wrote:
Did you check the BIOS revision levels? It usually shows
this as you’re restarting the system. Also, check with
the manufacturer’s web site to see if there are any BIOS updates.

[Konstantin] replied:
My motherboard is Iwill VD133 (VIA Apollo Pro 133 chipset)
with P-III 533B installed.

“MAXIM S. SHATSKIH” wrote:
BIOS setup values can be important.
For instance, on old APM machines, switching off power management in BIOS
setup causes ALL kinds of software to consider the machine as non-APM.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Konstantin Manurin”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:15 PM
Subject: [ntdev] [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem

Hi all,

Me and my boss both have almost identical computers: same motherboards, same
chipsets, same floppies and hard-drives, same memory DIMMs but slightly
different size (128 and 192 MB), same keyboards and mice, but I have a
CD-ROM and my boss have a DVD-ROM. The latter is the only difference. But my
boss have Windows 2k with ACPI enabled, and I don’t. I forgot to say that we
have same BIOSes. Can anybody give me a clue??? Why can’t I enable ACPI
support on my machine??? I forcedly changed Standard PC to PC with ACPI
support in Windows 2k Device Manager, but after reboot I received a BSOD
with error code ACPI_BIOS_ERROR (0x000000A5)… Strange, but in Windows 98
my computer supports an ACPI stuff and passes ACPI Hardware Compatibility
Tests.

All recommendations will be highly appreciated :))

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Hello Maxim,

Thursday, October 25, 2001, 8:15:33 PM, you wrote:

MSS> BIOS setup values can be important.
MSS> For instance, on old APM machines, switching off power management in BIOS setup causes ALL kinds of software to consider the machine
MSS> as non-APM.

MSS> Max

MSS> ----- Original Message -----
MSS> From: “Konstantin Manurin”
MSS> To: “NT Developers Interest List”
MSS> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:15 PM
MSS> Subject: [ntdev] [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem

>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> Me and my boss both have almost identical computers: same
>> motherboards, same chipsets, same floppies and hard-drives, same
>> memory DIMMs but slightly different size (128 and 192 MB), same
>> keyboards and mice, but I have a CD-ROM and my boss have a DVD-ROM.
>> The latter is the only difference. But my boss have Windows 2k with
>> ACPI enabled, and I don’t. I forgot to say that we have same BIOSes.
>> Can anybody give me a clue??? Why can’t I enable ACPI support on my
>> machine??? I forcedly changed Standard PC to PC with ACPI support in
>> Windows 2k Device Manager, but after reboot I received a BSOD with
>> error code ACPI_BIOS_ERROR (0x000000A5)… Strange, but in Windows 98
>> my computer supports an ACPI stuff and passes ACPI Hardware
>> Compatibility Tests.
>>
>> All recommendations will be highly appreciated :))
>>
>>
>> –
>> Thanks beforehand,
>> Konstantin Manurin (aka NizeG) xxxxx@infpres.com
>> xxxxx@beep.ru
>> xxxxx@yandex.ru
>>
>>
>>
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Many thanks for your answers and suggestions!!! :))

Strange, but in Windows 98 ACPI support works fine. And I tried to set
my BIOS settings as my boss did… Nevertheless, in Windows 2k ACPI
doesn’t still work??? What can I do???

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ACPI does not work since w2k SETUP decided your machine to be non-ACPI and installed a non-ACPI HAL for it.
Replace the HAL - either the binary or by /HAL= in BOOT.INI or by “Update Driver” for the “Standard PC”.

Max

----- Original Message -----
From: “Konstantin Manurin”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:53 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem

> Hello Maxim,
>
> Thursday, October 25, 2001, 8:15:33 PM, you wrote:
>
> MSS> BIOS setup values can be important.
> MSS> For instance, on old APM machines, switching off power management in BIOS setup causes ALL kinds of software to consider the
machine
> MSS> as non-APM.
>
> MSS> Max
>
> MSS> ----- Original Message -----
> MSS> From: “Konstantin Manurin”
> MSS> To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> MSS> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:15 PM
> MSS> Subject: [ntdev] [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem
>
>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >>
> >> Me and my boss both have almost identical computers: same
> >> motherboards, same chipsets, same floppies and hard-drives, same
> >> memory DIMMs but slightly different size (128 and 192 MB), same
> >> keyboards and mice, but I have a CD-ROM and my boss have a DVD-ROM.
> >> The latter is the only difference. But my boss have Windows 2k with
> >> ACPI enabled, and I don’t. I forgot to say that we have same BIOSes.
> >> Can anybody give me a clue??? Why can’t I enable ACPI support on my
> >> machine??? I forcedly changed Standard PC to PC with ACPI support in
> >> Windows 2k Device Manager, but after reboot I received a BSOD with
> >> error code ACPI_BIOS_ERROR (0x000000A5)… Strange, but in Windows 98
> >> my computer supports an ACPI stuff and passes ACPI Hardware
> >> Compatibility Tests.
> >>
> >> All recommendations will be highly appreciated :))
> >>
> >>
> >> –
> >> Thanks beforehand,
> >> Konstantin Manurin (aka NizeG) xxxxx@infpres.com
> >> xxxxx@beep.ru
> >> xxxxx@yandex.ru
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Many thanks for your answers and suggestions!!! :))
>
> Strange, but in Windows 98 ACPI support works fine. And I tried to set
> my BIOS settings as my boss did… Nevertheless, in Windows 2k ACPI
> doesn’t still work??? What can I do???
>
> –
> Best regards,
> Konstantin mailto:xxxxx@infpres.com
>
>
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Hello Maxim,

Saturday, October 27, 2001, 11:44:11 PM, you wrote:

MSS> ACPI does not work since w2k SETUP decided your machine to be non-ACPI and installed a non-ACPI HAL for it.
MSS> Replace the HAL - either the binary or by /HAL= in BOOT.INI or by “Update Driver” for the “Standard PC”.

MSS> Max

MSS> ----- Original Message -----
MSS> From: “Konstantin Manurin”
MSS> To: “NT Developers Interest List”
MSS> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:53 AM
MSS> Subject: [ntdev] Re: [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem

>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> Thursday, October 25, 2001, 8:15:33 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> MSS> BIOS setup values can be important.
>> MSS> For instance, on old APM machines, switching off power management in BIOS setup causes ALL kinds of software to consider the
MSS> machine
>> MSS> as non-APM.
>>
>> MSS> Max
>>
>> MSS> ----- Original Message -----
>> MSS> From: “Konstantin Manurin”
>> MSS> To: “NT Developers Interest List”
>> MSS> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:15 PM
>> MSS> Subject: [ntdev] [NTDEV]: ACPI support problem
>>
>>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Me and my boss both have almost identical computers: same
>> >> motherboards, same chipsets, same floppies and hard-drives, same
>> >> memory DIMMs but slightly different size (128 and 192 MB), same
>> >> keyboards and mice, but I have a CD-ROM and my boss have a DVD-ROM.
>> >> The latter is the only difference. But my boss have Windows 2k with
>> >> ACPI enabled, and I don’t. I forgot to say that we have same BIOSes.
>> >> Can anybody give me a clue??? Why can’t I enable ACPI support on my
>> >> machine??? I forcedly changed Standard PC to PC with ACPI support in
>> >> Windows 2k Device Manager, but after reboot I received a BSOD with
>> >> error code ACPI_BIOS_ERROR (0x000000A5)… Strange, but in Windows 98
>> >> my computer supports an ACPI stuff and passes ACPI Hardware
>> >> Compatibility Tests.
>> >>
>> >> All recommendations will be highly appreciated :))
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> –
>> >> Thanks beforehand,
>> >> Konstantin Manurin (aka NizeG) xxxxx@infpres.com
>> >> xxxxx@beep.ru
>> >> xxxxx@yandex.ru
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> Many thanks for your answers and suggestions!!! :))
>>
>> Strange, but in Windows 98 ACPI support works fine. And I tried to set
>> my BIOS settings as my boss did… Nevertheless, in Windows 2k ACPI
>> doesn’t still work??? What can I do???
>>
>> –
>> Best regards,
>> Konstantin mailto:xxxxx@infpres.com
>>
>>
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I tried to do that, but Win2k failed to boot with BSOD (0x000000A5).
I have “VIA 4 in 1” drivers installed and the last BIOS update, but
it didn’t help.

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