Why does not "delete software" option while uninstall a device not clean up drivers from %winroot%\s

NTDEV
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Hi,

I noticed that using “delete software” option while uninstall a device
not clean up drivers from
%winroot%\system32\drivers.

Q#1: Why does not OS delete these binaries from the above location?

Q#2: Does this option only clean up OS’s copy in driversoftware?
If not, which copy does it actually delete?

Thanks,
-Praveen

2

b/c the OS has a difficult time knowing with 100% certainty that all references to the driver has been removed. It leaves the sys files there so that in case there was a missing reference that was not cleaned up, the component which referenced the driver will still function.

d

3

So, if that is the case, is there anything else it cleans up?
I mean, is there anything acheived extra by choosing the option (over not
choosing that option while uninstalling)?

Thanks,
-Praveen

wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> b/c the OS has a difficult time knowing with 100% certainty that all
> references to the driver has been removed. It leaves the sys files there
> so that in case there was a missing reference that was not cleaned up, the
> component which referenced the driver will still function.
>
> d
>

4

i am not sure where the “delete software” option in windows is while unistalling a driver, so i would guess that this is specific to your install technology.

d

5

No d.
I dont have any installers.
I goto device manager -> Right click on device -> Uninstall
Thats it.

My driver package consists of .sys files and .inf files.
No co-installers or anything else.

Regds,
-Praveen

wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>i am not sure where the “delete software” option in windows is while
>unistalling a driver, so i would guess that this is specific to your
>install technology.
>
> d
>

6

I have seen this on Vista. Is the OP running Vista?

Beverly

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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:04 PM
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Subject: RE:[ntdev] Why does not “delete software” option while
uninstall a device not clean up drivers from %winroot%\system32\drivers?

i am not sure where the “delete software” option in windows is while
unistalling a driver, so i would guess that this is specific to your
install technology.

d

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7

Yes. I have one running 5474 build and the other 5520 build.

“Brown, Beverly” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
I have seen this on Vista. Is the OP running Vista?

Beverly

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
xxxxx@Microsoft.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:04 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: RE:[ntdev] Why does not “delete software” option while
uninstall a device not clean up drivers from %winroot%\system32\drivers?

i am not sure where the “delete software” option in windows is while
unistalling a driver, so i would guess that this is specific to your
install technology.

d

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8

Yes, this is in Vista.

I’d also want to know if there is a clean way to delete my inbox driver
as if it never exists.

Calvin Guan (DDK MVP)
Sr. Staff Engineer
NetXtreme NTX Miniport
Broadcom Corporation, Irvine CA 92618
Connecting Everything(r)

-----Original Message-----
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xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Praveen Kumar Amritaluru
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:16 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntdev] Why does not “delete software” option while
uninstall
a device not clean up drivers from %winroot%\system32\drivers?

No d.
I dont have any installers.
I goto device manager -> Right click on device -> Uninstall
Thats it.

My driver package consists of .sys files and .inf files.
No co-installers or anything else.

Regds,
-Praveen

wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >i am not sure where the “delete software” option in windows is while
> >unistalling a driver, so i would guess that this is specific to your
> >install technology.
> >
> > d
> >
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer

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cd %windir%\inf
pnputil -d oemX.inf

Where “X” is a number between 0 and whatever happened before you installed
your INF.

  • Jake Oshins

“Calvin (Hao) Guan” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
Yes, this is in Vista.

I’d also want to know if there is a clean way to delete my inbox driver
as if it never exists.

Calvin Guan (DDK MVP)
Sr. Staff Engineer
NetXtreme NTX Miniport
Broadcom Corporation, Irvine CA 92618
Connecting Everything(r)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:bounce-260725-
> xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Praveen Kumar Amritaluru
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:16 AM
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Subject: Re:[ntdev] Why does not “delete software” option while
uninstall
> a device not clean up drivers from %winroot%\system32\drivers?
>
> No d.
> I dont have any installers.
> I goto device manager -> Right click on device -> Uninstall
> Thats it.
>
> My driver package consists of .sys files and .inf files.
> No co-installers or anything else.
>
> Regds,
> -Praveen
>
>
> wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >i am not sure where the “delete software” option in windows is while
> >unistalling a driver, so i would guess that this is specific to your
> >install technology.
> >
> > d
> >
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer

10

Jake,

There is no oem0.inf there. I want to delete the IN-THE-BOX driver, the
driver shipped with Vista CD.

Thanks,

Calvin Guan (DDK MVP)
Sr. Staff Engineer
NetXtreme NTX Miniport
Broadcom Corporation, Irvine CA 92618
Connecting Everything(r)

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:bounce-260760-
xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Jake Oshins
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 6:10 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntdev] Why does not “delete software” option while
uninstall
a device not clean up drivers from %winroot%\system32\drivers?

cd %windir%\inf
pnputil -d oemX.inf

Where “X” is a number between 0 and whatever happened before you
installed
your INF.

  • Jake Oshins

“Calvin (Hao) Guan” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Yes, this is in Vista.
>
> I’d also want to know if there is a clean way to delete my inbox
driver
> as if it never exists.
>
> Calvin Guan (DDK MVP)
> Sr. Staff Engineer
> NetXtreme NTX Miniport
> Broadcom Corporation, Irvine CA 92618
> Connecting Everything(r)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:bounce-260725-
> > xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Praveen Kumar Amritaluru
> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:16 AM
> > To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> > Subject: Re:[ntdev] Why does not “delete software” option while
> uninstall
> > a device not clean up drivers from %winroot%\system32\drivers?
> >
> > No d.
> > I dont have any installers.
> > I goto device manager -> Right click on device -> Uninstall
> > Thats it.
> >
> > My driver package consists of .sys files and .inf files.
> > No co-installers or anything else.
> >
> > Regds,
> > -Praveen
> >
> >
> > wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > >i am not sure where the “delete software” option in windows is
while
> > >unistalling a driver, so i would guess that this is specific to
your
> > >install technology.
> > >
> > > d
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> > http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
>
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
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11

I am pretty sure that the inbox driver is protected and you can’t delete it or replace it w/out the proper servicing.

d

12

Thanks Jake.
Will try this.

“Jake Oshins” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> cd %windir%\inf
> pnputil -d oemX.inf
>
> Where “X” is a number between 0 and whatever happened before you installed
> your INF.
>
> - Jake Oshins
>
>
>
> “Calvin (Hao) Guan” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Yes, this is in Vista.
>
> I’d also want to know if there is a clean way to delete my inbox driver
> as if it never exists.
>
> Calvin Guan (DDK MVP)
> Sr. Staff Engineer
> NetXtreme NTX Miniport
> Broadcom Corporation, Irvine CA 92618
> Connecting Everything(r)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:bounce-260725-
>> xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Praveen Kumar Amritaluru
>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:16 AM
>> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
>> Subject: Re:[ntdev] Why does not “delete software” option while
> uninstall
>> a device not clean up drivers from %winroot%\system32\drivers?
>>
>> No d.
>> I dont have any installers.
>> I goto device manager -> Right click on device -> Uninstall
>> Thats it.
>>
>> My driver package consists of .sys files and .inf files.
>> No co-installers or anything else.
>>
>> Regds,
>> -Praveen
>>
>>
>> wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>> >i am not sure where the “delete software” option in windows is while
>> >unistalling a driver, so i would guess that this is specific to your
>> >install technology.
>> >
>> > d
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> —
>> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
>> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>>
>> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
>> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
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