I am newbie.
I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here:
http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
Thanks
Use which ever IDE you like. Run build to create the drivers. However you work to get these two rules to work is up to you. I like SlickEdit and VS 2005 SP1 because I usually have an application involved too.
“serimc” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
I am newbie.
I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here: http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
Thanks
VS2005, with the driver project setup to do builds using the DDK build
tools. Kind of nice because I’m working on apps at the same time and I
don’t have to switch IDEs constantly.
I don’t advise notepad, if you don’t want to use something as
heavyweight as VS2005, look into one of the many cheap editors
available (I’ve got UltraEdit, for instance).
Good luck!
On 2/19/07, serimc wrote:
> I am newbie.
> I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here:
> http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
> Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
> If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
>
> Thanks
> — Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe,
> visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
–
Michael Kohne
xxxxx@kohne.org
Thanks for answers. I asked this because i want to learn there are any
different IDEs or platforms for especially driver development.
Which one is preferred by professional developers use.
Also are there any explanations about configuring VS2005 for driver project?
Thanks
2007/2/19, Michael Kohne :
>
> VS2005, with the driver project setup to do builds using the DDK build
> tools. Kind of nice because I’m working on apps at the same time and I
> don’t have to switch IDEs constantly.
>
> I don’t advise notepad, if you don’t want to use something as
> heavyweight as VS2005, look into one of the many cheap editors
> available (I’ve got UltraEdit, for instance).
>
> Good luck!
>
> On 2/19/07, serimc wrote:
> > I am newbie.
> > I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here:
> > http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
> > Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
> > If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
> >
> > Thanks
> > — Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe,
> > visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> > http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
>
> –
> Michael Kohne
> xxxxx@kohne.org
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
You might want to look at http://blogs.msdn.com/iliast/archive/2007/02/15/poll-which-ides-are-being-used-by-driver-developers.aspx
Ilias
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of serimc [xxxxx@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:01 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntdev] Which IDE do you use?
Thanks for answers. I asked this because i want to learn there are any different IDEs or platforms for especially driver development.
Which one is preferred by professional developers use.
Also are there any explanations about configuring VS2005 for driver project?
Thanks
2007/2/19, Michael Kohne >:
VS2005, with the driver project setup to do builds using the DDK build
tools. Kind of nice because I’m working on apps at the same time and I
don’t have to switch IDEs constantly.
I don’t advise notepad, if you don’t want to use something as
heavyweight as VS2005, look into one of the many cheap editors
available (I’ve got UltraEdit, for instance).
Good luck!
On 2/19/07, serimc > wrote:
> I am newbie.
> I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here:
> http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
> Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
> If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
>
> Thanks
> — Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe,
> visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
–
Michael Kohne
xxxxx@kohne.orgmailto:xxxxx
—
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I haven’t updated it yet for VS2005 (heck it is only 2007 what’s the rush)
but this article explains how to configure VS.net to use ddkbuild.bat to
build drivers: http://hollistech.com/Resources/ddkbuild/ddkbuild.htm.
VS2005 has a new wizard that operates on an existing source tree that is
most helpful for putting all the sources and include files into an external
makefile project that can then be modified using the article mentioned to
use the DDK build system to create your drivers.
Emacs is also widely used and can be easily customized to directly support
the DDK build process.
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of serimc
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:01 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntdev] Which IDE do you use?
Thanks for answers. I asked this because i want to learn there are any
different IDEs or platforms for especially driver development.
Which one is preferred by professional developers use.
Also are there any explanations about configuring VS2005 for driver project?
Thanks
2007/2/19, Michael Kohne :
VS2005, with the driver project setup to do builds using the DDK build
tools. Kind of nice because I’m working on apps at the same time and I
don’t have to switch IDEs constantly.
I don’t advise notepad, if you don’t want to use something as
heavyweight as VS2005, look into one of the many cheap editors
available (I’ve got UltraEdit, for instance).
Good luck!
On 2/19/07, serimc wrote:
> I am newbie.
> I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here:
> http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
> Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
> If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
>
> Thanks
> — Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe,
> visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
–
Michael Kohne
xxxxx@kohne.org
—
Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
— Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe, visit the List
Server section of OSR Online at
http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
Thank you very much for links and articles.
They are really very useful.
I want to ask one more thing i am now downloading The Windows Driver Kit
(WDK)(2.4GB) also i recently downloaded and installed 2003 server ddk. What
are the differences? Is WDK also include server 2003? I mean is that packet
include everything that driver developer needs or must i also installed
server 2003 ddk?
Thanks
2007/2/19, Mark Roddy :
>
> I haven’t updated it yet for VS2005 (heck it is only 2007 what’s the
> rush) but this article explains how to configure VS.net to use
> ddkbuild.bat to build drivers:
> http://hollistech.com/Resources/ddkbuild/ddkbuild.htm. VS2005 has a new
> wizard that operates on an existing source tree that is most helpful for
> putting all the sources and include files into an external makefile project
> that can then be modified using the article mentioned to use the DDK build
> system to create your drivers.
>
>
>
> Emacs is also widely used and can be easily customized to directly support
> the DDK build process.
>
>
>
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:
> xxxxx@lists.osr.com] *On Behalf Of *serimc
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:01 AM
> To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> Subject: Re: [ntdev] Which IDE do you use?
>
>
>
> Thanks for answers. I asked this because i want to learn there are any
> different IDEs or platforms for especially driver development.
> Which one is preferred by professional developers use.
> Also are there any explanations about configuring VS2005 for driver
> project?
>
> Thanks
>
> 2007/2/19, Michael Kohne :
>
> VS2005, with the driver project setup to do builds using the DDK build
> tools. Kind of nice because I’m working on apps at the same time and I
> don’t have to switch IDEs constantly.
>
> I don’t advise notepad, if you don’t want to use something as
> heavyweight as VS2005, look into one of the many cheap editors
> available (I’ve got UltraEdit, for instance).
>
> Good luck!
>
> On 2/19/07, serimc wrote:
> > I am newbie.
> > I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here:
> > http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
> > Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
> > If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
> >
> > Thanks
> > — Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe,
> > visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> > http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
>
> –
> Michael Kohne
> xxxxx@kohne.org
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
>
> — Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe, visit the List
> Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
>
“serimc” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Thank you very much for links and articles.
> They are really very useful.
>
> I want to ask one more thing i am now downloading The Windows Driver Kit
> (WDK)(2.4GB) also i recently downloaded and installed 2003 server ddk.
> What
> are the differences? Is WDK also include server 2003? I mean is that
> packet
> include everything that driver developer needs or must i also installed
> server 2003 ddk?
> Thanks
>
The WDK contains everything you need. It will build drivers for Windows
2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista. The WDK contains
the latest tools, documentation, includes, and samples. The reason the WDK
is so large, is it also contains the test manager. The rule of thumb for
driver development, is always use the latest DDK/WDK and build for the
earliest platform you support.
–
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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----- Original Message -----
From: serimc
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ntdev] Which IDE do you use?
Thank you very much for links and articles.
They are really very useful.
I want to ask one more thing i am now downloading The Windows Driver Kit (WDK)(2.4GB) also i recently downloaded and installed 2003 server ddk. What are the differences? Is WDK also include server 2003? I mean is that packet include everything that driver developer needs or must i also installed server 2003 ddk?
Thanks
The WDK includes everything you need to develop drivers for 2k, xp, 2k3, vista. You just choose the right build environment when compiling the driver, following the rule that you generally choose the build environment for the oldest OS you need to support (in case you want to have a single binary).
Have a nice day
GV
2007/2/19, Mark Roddy :
I haven’t updated it yet for VS2005 (heck it is only 2007 what’s the rush) but this article explains how to configure VS.net to use ddkbuild.bat to build drivers: http://hollistech.com/Resources/ddkbuild/ddkbuild.htm . VS2005 has a new wizard that operates on an existing source tree that is most helpful for putting all the sources and include files into an external makefile project that can then be modified using the article mentioned to use the DDK build system to create your drivers.
Emacs is also widely used and can be easily customized to directly support the DDK build process.
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto: xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of serimc
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:01 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntdev] Which IDE do you use?
Thanks for answers. I asked this because i want to learn there are any different IDEs or platforms for especially driver development.
Which one is preferred by professional developers use.
Also are there any explanations about configuring VS2005 for driver project?
Thanks
2007/2/19, Michael Kohne :
VS2005, with the driver project setup to do builds using the DDK build
tools. Kind of nice because I’m working on apps at the same time and I
don’t have to switch IDEs constantly.
I don’t advise notepad, if you don’t want to use something as
heavyweight as VS2005, look into one of the many cheap editors
available (I’ve got UltraEdit, for instance).
Good luck!
On 2/19/07, serimc wrote:
> I am newbie.
> I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here:
> http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
> Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
> If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
>
> Thanks
> — Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe,
> visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
–
Michael Kohne
xxxxx@kohne.org
—
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Thank you Gianluca Varenni.
serimc wrote:
Thanks for answers. I asked this because i want to learn there are any
different IDEs or platforms for especially driver development.
Which one is preferred by professional developers use.
People use what they are most comfortable with. I, for example, live in
a command line and use gvim for virtually all of my editing.
Also are there any explanations about configuring VS2005 for driver
project?
There is a tool called “ddkbuild” that will let you use the DDK build
tools from within VS2005. If you are quite comfortable in Visual
Studio, this may be a good way to go.
However, you really need to understand what ddkbuild is doing for you.
Thus, I recommend that you spend a little time in the DDK build
environment command shells first; then you can see how ddkbuild puts all
of the pieces together.
–
Tim Roberts, xxxxx@probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
eVC++ 4.2 as a text editor. A bit more advanced version of MSVC 6 text
editor.
Note: the last WinCE project I did was in early 04, with small amounts of
support up to late 04.
–
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
“serimc” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> I am newbie.
> I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here:
> http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
> Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
> If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
>
> Thanks
>
WDK is a newer version of DDK. It is, in fact, Vista DDK 
–
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
“serimc” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Thank you very much for links and articles.
> They are really very useful.
>
> I want to ask one more thing i am now downloading The Windows Driver Kit
> (WDK)(2.4GB) also i recently downloaded and installed 2003 server ddk. What
> are the differences? Is WDK also include server 2003? I mean is that packet
> include everything that driver developer needs or must i also installed
> server 2003 ddk?
> Thanks
>
> 2007/2/19, Mark Roddy :
> >
> > I haven’t updated it yet for VS2005 (heck it is only 2007 what’s the
> > rush) but this article explains how to configure VS.net to use
> > ddkbuild.bat to build drivers:
> > http://hollistech.com/Resources/ddkbuild/ddkbuild.htm. VS2005 has a new
> > wizard that operates on an existing source tree that is most helpful for
> > putting all the sources and include files into an external makefile project
> > that can then be modified using the article mentioned to use the DDK build
> > system to create your drivers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Emacs is also widely used and can be easily customized to directly support
> > the DDK build process.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:
> > xxxxx@lists.osr.com] *On Behalf Of *serimc
> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:01 AM
> > To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
> > Subject: Re: [ntdev] Which IDE do you use?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for answers. I asked this because i want to learn there are any
> > different IDEs or platforms for especially driver development.
> > Which one is preferred by professional developers use.
> > Also are there any explanations about configuring VS2005 for driver
> > project?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > 2007/2/19, Michael Kohne :
> >
> > VS2005, with the driver project setup to do builds using the DDK build
> > tools. Kind of nice because I’m working on apps at the same time and I
> > don’t have to switch IDEs constantly.
> >
> > I don’t advise notepad, if you don’t want to use something as
> > heavyweight as VS2005, look into one of the many cheap editors
> > available (I’ve got UltraEdit, for instance).
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > On 2/19/07, serimc wrote:
> > > I am newbie.
> > > I want to ask you which ide you use. I am reading here:
> > > http://www.catch22.net/tuts/kernel1.asp
> > > Do you use notepad+DDK or something else? What do you advise me?
> > > If you advise VS2005, Can you please tell me how you configure it?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > — Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe,
> > > visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> > > http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
> >
> >
> > –
> > Michael Kohne
> > xxxxx@kohne.org
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> > http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
> >
> >
> > — Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256 To unsubscribe, visit the List
> > Server section of OSR Online at
> > http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > To unsubscribe, visit the List Server section of OSR Online at
> > http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=ListServer
> >
>
If you like old school “Dos” and light weight (a single tiny file) then another option is Brief. It integrates with build and steps to the errors in the source. It is a free download.
Thanks for pointing that one out. I am almost ashamed to say that I often
use my old 16-bit ‘b’ for quick-and-dirty editing. I used ‘b’ for DOS
through Vista driver development.
I only wish the resurrected ‘b’ included the split-window F3 support that
the original provided.
Thomas F. Divine
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