Any time frame on the release? Was the book updated any before it was
sent to press? Any details available would be very welcome.
MM
From what I know it has not been updated before it went to press, but there
will be an updated (or rewritten?) version available lateron.
Send a mail to the guys at OSR and ask them to notify you of the release. I
guess they’ll also let us know through this mailing list, right?
Regards,
Oliver Schneider
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Of course we will. From what I understand, the pages are at the printer
and we were just trying to get the cover artwork from the graphic
artist. After all, we can’t have an ugly book cover, now can we?
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:27 AM
To: ntfsd redirect
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
From what I know it has not been updated before it went to press, but
there
will be an updated (or rewritten?) version available lateron.
Send a mail to the guys at OSR and ask them to notify you of the
release. I
guess they’ll also let us know through this mailing list, right?
Regards,
Oliver Schneider
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Tony,
After all, we can’t have an ugly book cover, now can we?
since everyone yearns for it, I guess you could ;-D
Cheers,
Oliver
–
May the source be with you, stranger
ICQ: #281645
URL: http://assarbad.net
Well, I designed an ugly book cover but that one was nixed (a file
systems developer with his fingers in Illustrator can be a frightening
experience) by the marketing powers that be. And graphic artists are
not nearly as reliable as file systems people!
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Schneider
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:54 PM
To: ntfsd redirect
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Tony,
After all, we can’t have an ugly book cover, now can we?
since everyone yearns for it, I guess you could ;-D
Cheers,
Oliver
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Oh, c’mon Tony, who really cares what the re-issued old bits look like?
Release the old one in paperback, perfect bound with a solid light blue
cover, and we’ll STILL all buy it. I doubt seriously that anyone who WANTS
the book cares much what it looks like - I’ve seen the original (many times)
and it’s no looker itself.
And at up to US$200 a copy for the orginal on Ebay, your pricing structure
is flexible, I’d say.
…dave
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Tony Mason
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:26 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Well, I designed an ugly book cover but that one was nixed (a file systems
developer with his fingers in Illustrator can be a frightening
experience) by the marketing powers that be. And graphic artists are not
nearly as reliable as file systems people!
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in Boston,
MA April 24-27, 2006.
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Schneider
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:54 PM
To: ntfsd redirect
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Tony,
After all, we can’t have an ugly book cover, now can we?
since everyone yearns for it, I guess you could ;-D
Cheers,
Oliver
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> And at up to US$200 a copy for the orginal on Ebay, your pricing
structure is flexible, I’d say.
Darn. Now after you told them, the price will surely increase. No one should
have told them
My the first two cents of the payment.
Oliver
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Dave,
I honestly agree - the whole process really IS out of my hands and I’m
trying to make light of it. But I shall certainly ensure that the
responsible parties are made aware of your feedback.
And, FYI, I was told recently that we’ll be charging $65 per copy (and
in case people think we’re profiteering on this I would note that we’ll
have to sell quite a few copies just to cover the cost of acquiring the
rights.)
I do believe this is something that will happen this month.
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of David Beaver
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:53 PM
To: ntfsd redirect
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Oh, c’mon Tony, who really cares what the re-issued old bits look like?
Release the old one in paperback, perfect bound with a solid light blue
cover, and we’ll STILL all buy it. I doubt seriously that anyone who
WANTS
the book cares much what it looks like - I’ve seen the original (many
times)
and it’s no looker itself.
And at up to US$200 a copy for the orginal on Ebay, your pricing
structure
is flexible, I’d say.
…dave
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Tony Mason
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:26 AM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Well, I designed an ugly book cover but that one was nixed (a file
systems
developer with his fingers in Illustrator can be a frightening
experience) by the marketing powers that be. And graphic artists are
not
nearly as reliable as file systems people!
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
Boston,
MA April 24-27, 2006.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:54 PM
To: ntfsd redirect
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Tony,
After all, we can’t have an ugly book cover, now can we?
since everyone yearns for it, I guess you could ;-D
Cheers,
Oliver
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One request: Please print it on acid-free paper. My original copy has
already noticeably degraded.
I’ve already pre-ordered mine, so this is my $15, not my 2 cents. ;]
– arlie
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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Tony Mason
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 5:32 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Dave,
I honestly agree - the whole process really IS out of my hands and I’m
trying to make light of it. But I shall certainly ensure that the
responsible parties are made aware of your feedback.
And, FYI, I was told recently that we’ll be charging $65 per copy (and in
case people think we’re profiteering on this I would note that we’ll have to
sell quite a few copies just to cover the cost of acquiring the
rights.)
I do believe this is something that will happen this month.
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in Boston,
MA April 24-27, 2006.
I guess we could get Dan to run the pages through the photo copier, for those of you that are THAT anxious to get a copy 
Yes, I’m kidding,
P
Hey Arlie - Where is the pre-order link please? Thanks - Lyndon
“Arlie Davis” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
> One request: Please print it on acid-free paper. My original copy has
> already noticeably degraded.
>
> I’ve already pre-ordered mine, so this is my $15, not my 2 cents. ;]
>
> – arlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Tony Mason
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 5:32 PM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> avaliable?
>
> Dave,
>
> I honestly agree - the whole process really IS out of my hands and I’m
> trying to make light of it. But I shall certainly ensure that the
> responsible parties are made aware of your feedback.
>
> And, FYI, I was told recently that we’ll be charging $65 per copy (and in
> case people think we’re profiteering on this I would note that we’ll have
> to
> sell quite a few copies just to cover the cost of acquiring the
> rights.)
>
> I do believe this is something that will happen this month.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
> Tony Mason
> Consulting Partner
> OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
> http://www.osr.com
>
>
> Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
> Boston,
> MA April 24-27, 2006.
>
>
>
>
>
Lyndon,
Hey Arlie - Where is the pre-order link please? Thanks - Lyndon
I asked him the same question off list. Seems he mixed the FSD and the WDF
books
Oliver
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Ok, a few people have asked me – Where did you pre-order the FSD book?!
And I must admit – I goofed. I pre-ordered OSR’s WDM book, NOT the FSD
book.
Sorry to get everyone excited, it was just a broken neuron.
– arlie
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon J Clarke
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:19 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Hey Arlie - Where is the pre-order link please? Thanks - Lyndon
“Arlie Davis” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
> One request: Please print it on acid-free paper. My original copy has
> already noticeably degraded.
>
> I’ve already pre-ordered mine, so this is my $15, not my 2 cents. ;]
>
> – arlie
Makes me feel better, since I was told last month that the marketing
folks had decided NOT to do a pre-order page for the book (while I
suspect we’ll sell 100 copies, the marketing people don’t seem to be so
certain, so I think they’re going to start with a smaller number and
then order more if/when they are needed.) But I figured they changed
their minds on the pre-order link. What do *I* know!?
The time of “on demand publishing” is pretty incredible because it makes
publishing something like this practical, even in small quantities (and
while $65 sounds like a lot, I think the cost to print them is a
significant chunk of that.)
Of course, the real goal here was to use the book as a base for a new
edition, not to make money on the sale of the old edition.
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Arlie Davis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:40 PM
To: ntfsd redirect
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Ok, a few people have asked me – Where did you pre-order the FSD book?!
And I must admit – I goofed. I pre-ordered OSR’s WDM book, NOT the FSD
book.
Sorry to get everyone excited, it was just a broken neuron.
– arlie
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon J Clarke
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:19 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Hey Arlie - Where is the pre-order link please? Thanks - Lyndon
“Arlie Davis” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
> One request: Please print it on acid-free paper. My original copy has
> already noticeably degraded.
>
> I’ve already pre-ordered mine, so this is my $15, not my 2 cents. ;]
>
> – arlie
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A bit off topic and definitely too late, but…
I have the original, but I’d certainly buy a searchable pdf of Nagar’s
book, even for $75.
[$75 does not sound like a lot, I paid $215 at amazon for a used original a
couple of years ago.]
Just download it online, that’s it.
Do you know if this will be possible?
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Makes me feel better, since I was told last month that the marketing
folks had decided NOT to do a pre-order page for the book (while I
suspect we’ll sell 100 copies, the marketing people don’t seem to be so
certain, so I think they’re going to start with a smaller number and
then order more if/when they are needed.) But I figured they changed
their minds on the pre-order link. What do I know!?
The time of “on demand publishing” is pretty incredible because it makes
publishing something like this practical, even in small quantities (and
while $65 sounds like a lot, I think the cost to print them is a
significant chunk of that.)
Of course, the real goal here was to use the book as a base for a new
edition, not to make money on the sale of the old edition.
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Arlie Davis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:40 PM
To: ntfsd redirect
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Ok, a few people have asked me – Where did you pre-order the FSD book?!
And I must admit – I goofed. I pre-ordered OSR’s WDM book, NOT the FSD
book.
Sorry to get everyone excited, it was just a broken neuron.
– arlie
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon J Clarke
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:19 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Hey Arlie - Where is the pre-order link please? Thanks - Lyndon
“Arlie Davis” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
> One request: Please print it on acid-free paper. My original copy has
> already noticeably degraded.
>
> I’ve already pre-ordered mine, so this is my $15, not my 2 cents. ;]
>
> – arlie
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Hell, I’d pay you $75 to scan your copy and send it too me… Never
mind the copyright holders… I don’t know if it’s some sort of
joke that I don’t get, but if all this bull shit about the book cover is
‘for real’, I’m going to be pissed! I’ve been waiting for long enough…
As Martin Luther King Jr. once said, *“I have a dream that OSR will one
day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their
book, but by the content of their book.”.
*M
xxxxx@Home wrote:
A bit off topic and definitely too late, but…
I have the original, but I’d certainly buy a searchable pdf of
Nagar’s book, even for $75.
[$75 does not sound like a lot, I paid $215 at amazon for a used
original a couple of years ago.]Just download it online, that’s it.
Do you know if this will be possible?
----- Original Message ----- From: “Tony Mason”
> To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> avaliable?
>
>
> Makes me feel better, since I was told last month that the marketing
> folks had decided NOT to do a pre-order page for the book (while I
> suspect we’ll sell 100 copies, the marketing people don’t seem to be so
> certain, so I think they’re going to start with a smaller number and
> then order more if/when they are needed.) But I figured they changed
> their minds on the pre-order link. What do I know!?
>
> The time of “on demand publishing” is pretty incredible because it makes
> publishing something like this practical, even in small quantities (and
> while $65 sounds like a lot, I think the cost to print them is a
> significant chunk of that.)
>
> Of course, the real goal here was to use the book as a base for a new
> edition, not to make money on the sale of the old edition.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
> Tony Mason
> Consulting Partner
> OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
> http://www.osr.com
>
>
> Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
> Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Arlie Davis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:40 PM
> To: ntfsd redirect
> Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> avaliable?
>
> Ok, a few people have asked me – Where did you pre-order the FSD book?!
> And I must admit – I goofed. I pre-ordered OSR’s WDM book, NOT the FSD
> book.
>
> Sorry to get everyone excited, it was just a broken neuron.
>
> – arlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon J Clarke
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:19 PM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: Re:[ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> avaliable?
>
> Hey Arlie - Where is the pre-order link please? Thanks - Lyndon
>
> “Arlie Davis” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
>
>> One request: Please print it on acid-free paper. My original copy has
>
>
>> already noticeably degraded.
>>
>> I’ve already pre-ordered mine, so this is my $15, not my 2 cents. ;]
>>
>> – arlie
>
>
>
>
>
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Considering an *average* calculus, physics, or chemistry book costs
something like $120, and considering that millions of them are printed a
year, I think $65 is quite reasonable, and I plan on buying several copies.
We really appreciate it.
– arlie
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Tony Mason
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:22 PM
To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Makes me feel better, since I was told last month that the marketing folks
had decided NOT to do a pre-order page for the book (while I suspect we’ll
sell 100 copies, the marketing people don’t seem to be so certain, so I
think they’re going to start with a smaller number and then order more
if/when they are needed.) But I figured they changed their minds on the
pre-order link. What do *I* know!?
The time of “on demand publishing” is pretty incredible because it makes
publishing something like this practical, even in small quantities (and
while $65 sounds like a lot, I think the cost to print them is a significant
chunk of that.)
Of course, the real goal here was to use the book as a base for a new
edition, not to make money on the sale of the old edition.
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in Boston,
MA April 24-27, 2006.
> Hell, I’d pay you $75 to scan your copy and send it too me… Never
mind the copyright holders…
After I bought it, I did find a scanned version on the web, but it’s not what I am looking for.
A lot of books are currently being sold just as PDFs or as a set of paper and an electronic copy,
and it is 100% legal.
4th ed of Mark’s bible, for example: about $45 for paper only or about $120 for paper plus e-copy plus w2k3s RK.
The key word here is “searchable”.
And hey, send me $75, I’ll send you the link to the bootlegged [non-seachable] PDF of Nagar:-)
From: MM
> Date: 2006/01/04 Wed AM 07:52:47 EST
> To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
> Subject: Re: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be avaliable?
>
> Hell, I’d pay you $75 to scan your copy and send it too me… Never
> mind the copyright holders…
> joke that I don’t get, but if all this bull shit about the book cover is
> ‘for real’, I’m going to be pissed! I’ve been waiting for long enough…
>
> As Martin Luther King Jr. once said, *“I have a dream that OSR will one
> day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their
> book, but by the content of their book.”.
>
> *M
>
>
> xxxxx@Home wrote:
>
> > A bit off topic and definitely too late, but…
> >
> > I have the original, but I’d certainly buy a searchable pdf of
> > Nagar’s book, even for $75.
> > [$75 does not sound like a lot, I paid $215 at amazon for a used
> > original a couple of years ago.]
> >
> > Just download it online, that’s it.
> >
> > Do you know if this will be possible?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: “Tony Mason”
> > To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:22 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> > avaliable?
> >
> >
> > Makes me feel better, since I was told last month that the marketing
> > folks had decided NOT to do a pre-order page for the book (while I
> > suspect we’ll sell 100 copies, the marketing people don’t seem to be so
> > certain, so I think they’re going to start with a smaller number and
> > then order more if/when they are needed.) But I figured they changed
> > their minds on the pre-order link. What do I know!?
> >
> > The time of “on demand publishing” is pretty incredible because it makes
> > publishing something like this practical, even in small quantities (and
> > while $65 sounds like a lot, I think the cost to print them is a
> > significant chunk of that.)
> >
> > Of course, the real goal here was to use the book as a base for a new
> > edition, not to make money on the sale of the old edition.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Tony Mason
> > Consulting Partner
> > OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
> > http://www.osr.com
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
> > Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Arlie Davis
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:40 PM
> > To: ntfsd redirect
> > Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> > avaliable?
> >
> > Ok, a few people have asked me – Where did you pre-order the FSD book?!
> > And I must admit – I goofed. I pre-ordered OSR’s WDM book, NOT the FSD
> > book.
> >
> > Sorry to get everyone excited, it was just a broken neuron.
> >
> > – arlie
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon J Clarke
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:19 PM
> > To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> > Subject: Re:[ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> > avaliable?
> >
> > Hey Arlie - Where is the pre-order link please? Thanks - Lyndon
> >
> > “Arlie Davis” wrote in message
> > news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
> >
> >> One request: Please print it on acid-free paper. My original copy has
> >
> >
> >> already noticeably degraded.
> >>
> >> I’ve already pre-ordered mine, so this is my $15, not my 2 cents. ;]
> >>
> >> – arlie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > —
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Just for the record, I have forced the issue again - we got the art
files back from the graphic designer and I personally made all the
requisite changes to the cover (important things like r-in-a-circle
around “Windows”.) I also provided a graphic of the cover, so that the
sales team can put up an ordering page for the book once they are happy
taking orders for it.
When I asked how long the turn-around time would be, I was told two
weeks.
The printed copy of it will have the traditional search capabilities of
a physical book. And every reprint copy that you purchase helps fund
the forward revision of the text (which is a rather daunting task…)
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
xxxxx@bellsouth.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:13 PM
To: ntfsd redirect
Subject: Re: Re: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
Hell, I’d pay you $75 to scan your copy and send it too me… Never
mind the copyright holders…
After I bought it, I did find a scanned version on the web, but it’s not
what I am looking for.
A lot of books are currently being sold just as PDFs or as a set of
paper and an electronic copy,
and it is 100% legal.
4th ed of Mark’s bible, for example: about $45 for paper only or about
$120 for paper plus e-copy plus w2k3s RK.
The key word here is “searchable”.
And hey, send me $75, I’ll send you the link to the bootlegged
[non-seachable] PDF of Nagar:-)
From: MM
> Date: 2006/01/04 Wed AM 07:52:47 EST
> To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
> Subject: Re: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
avaliable?
>
> Hell, I’d pay you $75 to scan your copy and send it too me… Never
> mind the copyright holders…
> joke that I don’t get, but if all this bull shit about the book cover
is
> ‘for real’, I’m going to be pissed! I’ve been waiting for long
enough…
>
> As Martin Luther King Jr. once said, *“I have a dream that OSR will
one
> day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of
their
> book, but by the content of their book.”.
>
> *M
>
>
> xxxxx@Home wrote:
>
> > A bit off topic and definitely too late, but…
> >
> > I have the original, but I’d certainly buy a searchable pdf of
> > Nagar’s book, even for $75.
> > [$75 does not sound like a lot, I paid $215 at amazon for a used
> > original a couple of years ago.]
> >
> > Just download it online, that’s it.
> >
> > Do you know if this will be possible?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: “Tony Mason”
> > To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:22 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> > avaliable?
> >
> >
> > Makes me feel better, since I was told last month that the marketing
> > folks had decided NOT to do a pre-order page for the book (while I
> > suspect we’ll sell 100 copies, the marketing people don’t seem to be
so
> > certain, so I think they’re going to start with a smaller number and
> > then order more if/when they are needed.) But I figured they
changed
> > their minds on the pre-order link. What do I know!?
> >
> > The time of “on demand publishing” is pretty incredible because it
makes
> > publishing something like this practical, even in small quantities
(and
> > while $65 sounds like a lot, I think the cost to print them is a
> > significant chunk of that.)
> >
> > Of course, the real goal here was to use the book as a base for a
new
> > edition, not to make money on the sale of the old edition.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Tony Mason
> > Consulting Partner
> > OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
> > http://www.osr.com
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
> > Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Arlie Davis
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:40 PM
> > To: ntfsd redirect
> > Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> > avaliable?
> >
> > Ok, a few people have asked me – Where did you pre-order the FSD
book?!
> > And I must admit – I goofed. I pre-ordered OSR’s WDM book, NOT the
FSD
> > book.
> >
> > Sorry to get everyone excited, it was just a broken neuron.
> >
> > – arlie
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> > [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon J
Clarke
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:19 PM
> > To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> > Subject: Re:[ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> > avaliable?
> >
> > Hey Arlie - Where is the pre-order link please? Thanks - Lyndon
> >
> > “Arlie Davis” wrote in message
> > news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
> >
> >> One request: Please print it on acid-free paper. My original copy
has
> >
> >
> >> already noticeably degraded.
> >>
> >> I’ve already pre-ordered mine, so this is my $15, not my 2 cents.
;]
> >>
> >> – arlie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
> > https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@osr.com
> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
> > https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17
> >
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> > argument: ‘’
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xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> >
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>
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I hesitate to post this since I think we all need to buy the hard copies to support a much needed update of the book. However, there is no point in supporting any illegal bootleg operations to get a searchable copy.
A searchable HTML version of “Windows NT filesystem Internels” is available online for free at netlibrary.com. You can’t download the version but as long as you have reasonably fast internet access the online version is sufficient.
I had to go the library to get my initial username and password, but this was at no cost. Of course, the site offers access to a great deal of other books as well.
Derek
xxxxx@bellsouth.net wrote: > Hell, I’d pay you $75 to scan your copy and send it too me… Never
mind the copyright holders…
After I bought it, I did find a scanned version on the web, but it’s not what I am looking for.
A lot of books are currently being sold just as PDFs or as a set of paper and an electronic copy,
and it is 100% legal.
4th ed of Mark’s bible, for example: about $45 for paper only or about $120 for paper plus e-copy plus w2k3s RK.
The key word here is “searchable”.
And hey, send me $75, I’ll send you the link to the bootlegged [non-seachable] PDF of Nagar:-)
From: MM
Date: 2006/01/04 Wed AM 07:52:47 EST
To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be avaliable?Hell, I’d pay you $75 to scan your copy and send it too me… Never
mind the copyright holders…
joke that I don’t get, but if all this bull shit about the book cover is
‘for real’, I’m going to be pissed! I’ve been waiting for long enough…As Martin Luther King Jr. once said, *“I have a dream that OSR will one
day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their
book, but by the content of their book.”.*M
xxxxx@Home wrote:
> A bit off topic and definitely too late, but…
>
> I have the original, but I’d certainly buy a searchable pdf of
> Nagar’s book, even for $75.
> [$75 does not sound like a lot, I paid $215 at amazon for a used
> original a couple of years ago.]
>
> Just download it online, that’s it.
>
> Do you know if this will be possible?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: “Tony Mason”
> To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> avaliable?
>
>
> Makes me feel better, since I was told last month that the marketing
> folks had decided NOT to do a pre-order page for the book (while I
> suspect we’ll sell 100 copies, the marketing people don’t seem to be so
> certain, so I think they’re going to start with a smaller number and
> then order more if/when they are needed.) But I figured they changed
> their minds on the pre-order link. What do *I* know!?
>
> The time of “on demand publishing” is pretty incredible because it makes
> publishing something like this practical, even in small quantities (and
> while $65 sounds like a lot, I think the cost to print them is a
> significant chunk of that.)
>
> Of course, the real goal here was to use the book as a base for a new
> edition, not to make money on the sale of the old edition.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
> Tony Mason
> Consulting Partner
> OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
> http://www.osr.com
>
>
> Looking forward to seeing you at the next OSR File Systems class in
> Boston, MA April 24-27, 2006.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Arlie Davis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:40 PM
> To: ntfsd redirect
> Subject: RE: [ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> avaliable?
>
> Ok, a few people have asked me – Where did you pre-order the FSD book?!
> And I must admit – I goofed. I pre-ordered OSR’s WDM book, NOT the FSD
> book.
>
> Sorry to get everyone excited, it was just a broken neuron.
>
> – arlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon J Clarke
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:19 PM
> To: Windows File Systems Devs Interest List
> Subject: Re:[ntfsd] When will “Windows NT filesystem Internels” be
> avaliable?
>
> Hey Arlie - Where is the pre-order link please? Thanks - Lyndon
>
> “Arlie Davis” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
>
>> One request: Please print it on acid-free paper. My original copy has
>
>
>> already noticeably degraded.
>>
>> I’ve already pre-ordered mine, so this is my $15, not my 2 cents. ;]
>>
>> – arlie
>
>
>
>
>
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