USB keyboard generated crushdump

WINDBG
1

Guys,

Has anyone gotten BSOD to happen from a USB keyboard on XP as described in
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139 when the machine is completely
hung?

PS/2 keyboards work just fine every time, but I was never being able to get
an XP machine to BSOD when initiated from a USB keyboard.

Also, other than the crushdump PCI card, are there any other hardware
solutions that would work with generic PCs off of generally available ports
(USB/LPT/1394)?

Thanks,

Alex

2

If I recall correctly, it requires S2K3, a hotfix, and I don’t think that it will work in some
cases. In particular, the IRQL is lower priority than that of the PS/2 case, so depending on what’s
causing the hang, it may not be processed.

Good luck,

,

Alexander Volynkin wrote:

Guys,

Has anyone gotten BSOD to happen from a USB keyboard on XP as described
in http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139 when the machine is
completely hung?

PS/2 keyboards work just fine every time, but I was never being able to
get an XP machine to BSOD when initiated from a USB keyboard.

Also, other than the crushdump PCI card, are there any other hardware
solutions that would work with generic PCs off of generally available
ports (USB/LPT/1394)?

Thanks,

Alex

3

This might be what you mean, but there are NMI generating cards that will work for this purpose.
Also, some boards have NMI generation facilities built in - most SuperMicro boards, for example have
this capability.

Good luck,

mm

Alexander Volynkin wrote:

Guys,

Has anyone gotten BSOD to happen from a USB keyboard on XP as described
in http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139 when the machine is
completely hung?

PS/2 keyboards work just fine every time, but I was never being able to
get an XP machine to BSOD when initiated from a USB keyboard.

Also, other than the crushdump PCI card, are there any other hardware
solutions that would work with generic PCs off of generally available
ports (USB/LPT/1394)?

Thanks,

Alex

4

Martin,

Thanks again. I was suspecting that problem. I also found this
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/sysinternals/dmpsw.mspx

It pretty much kills any chances of having an NMI switch on anything other
than ISA or PCI bus.

I am still open to suggestions on getting a crushdump on a completely hung
XP box with minimal hardware intervention.

-Alex

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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:22 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] USB keyboard generated crushdump

If I recall correctly, it requires S2K3, a hotfix, and I don’t think that it
will work in some
cases. In particular, the IRQL is lower priority than that of the PS/2
case, so depending on what’s
causing the hang, it may not be processed.

Good luck,

,

Alexander Volynkin wrote:

Guys,

Has anyone gotten BSOD to happen from a USB keyboard on XP as described
in http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139 when the machine is
completely hung?

PS/2 keyboards work just fine every time, but I was never being able to
get an XP machine to BSOD when initiated from a USB keyboard.

Also, other than the crushdump PCI card, are there any other hardware
solutions that would work with generic PCs off of generally available
ports (USB/LPT/1394)?

Thanks,

Alex

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Not a problem; unfortunately, I haven’t any ideas that don’t involve hardware, unless you happen to
be using a board with NMI support already in place.

Good luck,

mm

Alex Volynkin wrote:

Martin,

Thanks again. I was suspecting that problem. I also found this
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/sysinternals/dmpsw.mspx

It pretty much kills any chances of having an NMI switch on anything other
than ISA or PCI bus.

I am still open to suggestions on getting a crushdump on a completely hung
XP box with minimal hardware intervention.

-Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Martin O’Brien
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:22 PM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] USB keyboard generated crushdump

If I recall correctly, it requires S2K3, a hotfix, and I don’t think that it
will work in some
cases. In particular, the IRQL is lower priority than that of the PS/2
case, so depending on what’s
causing the hang, it may not be processed.

Good luck,

,

Alexander Volynkin wrote:
> Guys,
>
>
>
> Has anyone gotten BSOD to happen from a USB keyboard on XP as described
> in http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139 when the machine is
> completely hung?
>
>
>
> PS/2 keyboards work just fine every time, but I was never being able to
> get an XP machine to BSOD when initiated from a USB keyboard.
>
>
>
> Also, other than the crushdump PCI card, are there any other hardware
> solutions that would work with generic PCs off of generally available
> ports (USB/LPT/1394)?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Alex
>

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if you have got any access to the machine when it is hung, i.e., if you
could access the shares \machinename\c$… Then you can download
Notmyfault.exe tool from the URL below and you can use PSEXEC.exe from
Sysinternals to remotely launch “notmyfault.exe /crash” which is copied to
the C$ of the affected machine in advance.
Regards
Pushkar

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Martin O’Brien
wrote:

> This might be what you mean, but there are NMI generating cards that will
> work for this purpose. Also, some boards have NMI generation facilities
> built in - most SuperMicro boards, for example have this capability.
>
> Good luck,
>
> mm
>
> Alexander Volynkin wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>>
>> Has anyone gotten BSOD to happen from a USB keyboard on XP as described in
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139 when the machine is completely
>> hung?
>>
>>
>> PS/2 keyboards work just fine every time, but I was never being able to
>> get an XP machine to BSOD when initiated from a USB keyboard.
>>
>>
>> Also, other than the crushdump PCI card, are there any other hardware
>> solutions that would work with generic PCs off of generally available ports
>> (USB/LPT/1394)?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
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>

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if you have got any access to the machine when it is hung, i.e., if you
could access the shares \machinename\c$… Then you can download
Notmyfault.exe tool from the URL below and you can use PSEXEC.exe from
Sysinternals to remotely launch “notmyfault.exe /crash” which is copied to
the C$ of the affected machine in advance.
Forgot to add the link in my previous email
http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Notmyfault.zip

Regards
Pushkar

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Alex Volynkin wrote:

> Martin,
>
> Thanks again. I was suspecting that problem. I also found this
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/sysinternals/dmpsw.mspx
>
> It pretty much kills any chances of having an NMI switch on anything other
> than ISA or PCI bus.
>
> I am still open to suggestions on getting a crushdump on a completely hung
> XP box with minimal hardware intervention.
>
> -Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Martin O’Brien
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:22 PM
> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
> Subject: Re:[windbg] USB keyboard generated crushdump
>
> If I recall correctly, it requires S2K3, a hotfix, and I don’t think that
> it
> will work in some
> cases. In particular, the IRQL is lower priority than that of the PS/2
> case, so depending on what’s
> causing the hang, it may not be processed.
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> ,
>
>
> Alexander Volynkin wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone gotten BSOD to happen from a USB keyboard on XP as described
> > in http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139 when the machine is
> > completely hung?
> >
> >
> >
> > PS/2 keyboards work just fine every time, but I was never being able to
> > get an XP machine to BSOD when initiated from a USB keyboard.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, other than the crushdump PCI card, are there any other hardware
> > solutions that would work with generic PCs off of generally available
> > ports (USB/LPT/1394)?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >
>
> —
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enough people to make it worth the effort.” -Herm Albright

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If you can’t break in with WinDbg, there’s no way that this will work.

mm

Pushkar Prasad wrote:

if you have got any access to the machine when it is hung, i.e., if you
could access the shares \machinename\c$… Then you can download
Notmyfault.exe tool from the URL below and you can use PSEXEC.exe from
Sysinternals to remotely launch “notmyfault.exe /crash” which is copied
to the C$ of the affected machine in advance.

Forgot to add the link in my previous
email http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Notmyfault.zip

Regards
Pushkar

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Alex Volynkin > mailto:xxxxx> wrote:
>
> Martin,
>
> Thanks again. I was suspecting that problem. I also found this
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/sysinternals/dmpsw.mspx
>
> It pretty much kills any chances of having an NMI switch on anything
> other
> than ISA or PCI bus.
>
> I am still open to suggestions on getting a crushdump on a
> completely hung
> XP box with minimal hardware intervention.
>
> -Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> mailto:xxxxx
> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> mailto:xxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin O’Brien
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:22 PM
> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
> Subject: Re:[windbg] USB keyboard generated crushdump
>
> If I recall correctly, it requires S2K3, a hotfix, and I don’t think
> that it
> will work in some
> cases. In particular, the IRQL is lower priority than that of the PS/2
> case, so depending on what’s
> causing the hang, it may not be processed.
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> ,
>
>
> Alexander Volynkin wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone gotten BSOD to happen from a USB keyboard on XP as
> described
> > in http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139 when the machine is
> > completely hung?
> >
> >
> >
> > PS/2 keyboards work just fine every time, but I was never being
> able to
> > get an XP machine to BSOD when initiated from a USB keyboard.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, other than the crushdump PCI card, are there any other hardware
> > solutions that would work with generic PCs off of generally available
> > ports (USB/LPT/1394)?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >
>
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>
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>
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