If you had 2.7 before, your old serial number will work with the 2.7 that
ships in the 3.0 CD. If you have 3.0.0 but you weren’t a 2.7 user before you
bought 3.0, please contact our support people at
xxxxx@compuware.com and they’ll give you a 2.7 serial number, this
was an oversight at shipping time. If you have 3.0.1, that shortcoming is
fixed. Or do I misunderstand you ?
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@NAI.com [mailto:xxxxx@NAI.com]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:48 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: The most preferable DDK Suite to order/buy
Alberto,
The PINs of 3.0 do not work for the 2.7 shipped on the same CD. So
you expect the customers to buy 2.7 in addition to 3.0.
-Srin.
-----Original Message-----
From: Moreira, Alberto [mailto:xxxxx@compuware.com]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:41 AM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: The most preferable DDK Suite to order/buy
We ship SoftICE 2.7 in the 3.0 CD to address that gap. At some point we have
to bury the skeletons !
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Ryan [mailto:xxxxx@nryan.com]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:23 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: The most preferable DDK Suite to order/buy
A big annoyance with 3.0 is that it doesn’t run on NT4 anymore - most of
us still need to support this platform.
Moreira, Alberto wrote:
I don’t like to badmouth other people, but I believe SoftICE does things
that I’m not sure anyone else does. For example, SoftICE runs on a single
machine. It also runs on a TCP/IP network. At school I have a classroom
with 25 computers on the campus Ethernet, I can use SoftICE to debug any
of
my student machines from my teacher’s station without stringing serial
cables all over. I can also give two machines to each student and have
them
debug their drivers from one machine to another.
SoftICE can also run with the OS stopped, and it doesn’t need Windows on
the
host side either. For example, we still ship a DOS version of SoftICE, and
people who do Bios or disk drives for a living can put SoftICE in a DOS
diskette and debug their stuff way before the OS is even booted. This also
comes handy when we’re trying to debug network stuff at the basic level
and
we don’t quite have an OS-maintained connection between host and target:
we
can use SoftICE and SIRemote on hardware level drivers and debug
independently of whether the OS is there or not.
Also, I can have BoundsChecker pop up SoftICE on an error or event, for
example, I can leave it running a stress test overnight in search of that
elusive bug, and when I get back in the morning I’ll have SoftICE popped
up.
As for compatibility, I thought we ran on all OS’s, and all commands from
previous versions are there ? Also, we haven’t issue a Service Pack in
years, instead we have had full versions of the product: 2.0, 2.1, 2.5,
2.6,
2.7, 3.0. Every version is an attempt to improve the previous.
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Maxim S. Shatskih [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:59 AM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: The most preferable DDK Suite to order/buy
>That is not so clear. Does it mean I won’t be able to use SoftICE under
>XP?
WinDbg is IMHO better. Much more facilities, the easy ability of saving
debug
log to the file and so on. It is also free.
SoftICE will also work, but I dunno what version you will need. Old
SoftICE
versions are usually incompatible with newer service packs.
>(sometimes I use it for a simple debugging in NT40) And what about symbols
>for WinDbg or they will be included in the kit?
They are on Customer Support Diagnostics CD on MSDN.
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
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