Suggestion: Pre-approval for NTFSD on encryption

The amount of people asking about transparent encryption out of the
blind on this list has increased to make >50% of the total NTFSD posts.
I suggest a pre-approval question for new members that says: If you
are creating an encryption filter, will you do a search before asking
****** questions?
Something alone the lines of “Are you familiar with C and driver
coding in general not to ask questions that are answered in the WDK?”
would also be useful.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.

Hehe, I have already suggested the same two months ago or so.
I agree fully, it’s like all peeps decided to make encryption filter.

L.

How funny is this :slight_smile: I’m also doing an encryption filter! haha

Hehe, I have already suggested the same two months ago or so.
I agree fully, it’s like all peeps decided to make encryption filter.

L.

At least we aren’t seeing as many posts with “But my firm bid on this and we
have to deliver in 2 months” as we used to. Typically there is a surge in
things, when I did my first windows file system “video file systems” were
being developed in multiple firms, there have been a couple of other common
projects since then, and now it is encryption. The only thing that remains
constant is the stupidity of some companies/managers/dev’s who do not do
their homework before diving in.


Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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“Dejan Maksimovic” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
>
> The amount of people asking about transparent encryption out of the
> blind on this list has increased to make >50% of the total NTFSD posts.
> I suggest a pre-approval question for new members that says: If you
> are creating an encryption filter, will you do a search before asking
> ****** questions?
> Something alone the lines of “Are you familiar with C and driver
> coding in general not to ask questions that are answered in the WDK?”
> would also be useful.
>
> –
> Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
> http://www.alfasp.com
> File system audit, security and encryption kits.
>
>
>

> How funny is this :slight_smile: I’m also doing an encryption filter! haha

Indeed, in context of your today’s question on another thread it is really funny - this is exactly what Dejan is speaking about…

Anton Bassov

> At least we aren’t seeing as many posts with "But my firm bid on this and we

have to deliver in 2 months" as we used to.

That’s common in every area, I guess we got used to it.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.

I was going to reply exactly that, but I held my fingers away from the keyboard :wink:

Seriously, this idea should be considered!

xxxxx@hotmail.com wrote:

> How funny is this :slight_smile: I’m also doing an encryption filter! haha

Indeed, in context of your today’s question on another thread it is really funny - this is exactly what Dejan is speaking about…


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.

Umm… isn’t everyone? :slight_smile:

----- Original Message -----
From: “Daniel Cagara”
To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Suggestion: Pre-approval for NTFSD on encryption

> How funny is this :slight_smile: I’m also doing an encryption filter! haha
>
>> Hehe, I have already suggested the same two months ago or so.
>> I agree fully, it’s like all peeps decided to make encryption filter.
>>
>> L.
>
> —
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>
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Not everyone. Those who know all the problems, don’t. Those who must have
one go to OSR or another consultant with a proven track record.

“Neil Weicher” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
> Umm… isn’t everyone? :slight_smile:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Daniel Cagara”
> To: “Windows File Systems Devs Interest List”
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [ntfsd] Suggestion: Pre-approval for NTFSD on encryption
>
>
>> How funny is this :slight_smile: I’m also doing an encryption filter! haha
>>
>>> Hehe, I have already suggested the same two months ago or so.
>>> I agree fully, it’s like all peeps decided to make encryption filter.
>>>
>>> L.
>>
>> —
>> NTFSD is sponsored by OSR
>>
>> For our schedule debugging and file system seminars
>> (including our new fs mini-filter seminar) visit:
>> http://www.osr.com/seminars
>>
>> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@netlib.com
>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>>
>

Dejan:

> I suggest a pre-approval question for new members that says: If you are creating an encryption
> filter, will you do a search before asking ****** questions?

Considering driver development really tough job, that would not be great. I know people get annoyed with some thing. But, best people of the world in this field are here. I even feel ashamed to ask silly questions. But being so kind you people always reply that. A single line with a link or a method name really help a lot. We, beginners, are indebted for each keystroke you make.

Don:

> The only thing that remains constant is the stupidity of some companies/managers/dev’s who do
> not do their homework before diving in.

Dejan:

> Something alone the lines of "Are you familiar with C and driver coding in general not to ask
> questions that are answered in the WDK?"would also be useful.

Beigng a beginner I thought of posting a lot of questions - but did not do that. I first think of a subject line and post it in search box. It almost 90% time keeps me away from posting a question. It seems almost all people face same problems as I face. But, the problem is, I started to understand that after 7 months of starting a driver project for the first time in life. I already have posted about 100 questions in drive groups. Even search requires some skill. I was confident, 7 months before, that I can write a commercial filesystem driver from scratch in ummm 6/7 months. The more I tried, I understand driver is not like that MFC applications. I feel happy to be follower of you great guys here. Now I try all alternatives whether I use it or not. Even things like trying to change the GDTR value instead of using pending ioctl irp or Ke(Stack)AttachProcess to get the user process address space.

Oh, I am not working with encryption filter driver:). Thanks everybody.

> Considering driver development really tough job, that would not be great. I know people get annoyed with some thing. But, best people of the world in this field are here. I even feel ashamed to ask silly questions. But being so kind you people always reply that. A single line with a link or a method name really help a lot. We, beginners, are indebted for each keystroke you make.

Seriously… can’t you do a search for things like “clear cache”, “encryption”, “filter”, “on the fly” before asking the questions? Instead we should do the search for you?:slight_smile:
(Having said that, I recently had an issue, and tried doing a search - found nothing. But there actually was a thread with the solution right at the top. I might be bad at searching - but I highly doubt that every person that comes in and wants to do a filter is bad at searching)

Oh, I am not working with encryption filter driver:). Thanks everybody.

Oh, you don’t count then :smiley:
A year or more ago, only one person (I won’t name him) showed discontent with the “I wanna do encryption tomorrow” folks. There weren’t many of these then. There are so many now, that they make up most of the NTFSD questions - again and again, instead of searching.
It’s not stupid being the first to ask “Why I can’t encrypt Notepad file I/O?”, but asking it after several people already did is.


Kind regards, Dejan (MSN support: xxxxx@alfasp.com)
http://www.alfasp.com
File system audit, security and encryption kits.