Thanks everyone for help.
Target being a netbook, there is absolutely no BIOS option whatsoever.
No COM ports on the motherboard either - device manager did not show any
before adding the PCIe card.
I believe you might be right - there is no way kd will work over that board.
Actually when I saw it was asking for drivers, I thought there’s no way
it’ll work.
I chose a serial card because I need to debug S3 on XP… and 1394 might not
work over S3 (or so I’ve heard). I particularly need to debug resume from
S3.
Do you think an 1394 PCIe card would help me? Any suggestions on the card?
Netbook doesn’t have any PCMCIA ports, just a PCIe - it’s an HP Mini.
Thanks one more time
Cristian
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Martin O’Brien <
xxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
I’m not sure, but I’ve never seen this work.
mm
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Gary G. Little wrote:
>
>> The ports do have to become COM1/COM2 and may require disabling onboard
>> com support in the BIOS, which would indicate those onboard ports are some
>> how broken. But ? it has been a while so maybe it was an ISA slot I was
>> using.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary G. Little
>>
>> H (952) 223-1349
>>
>> C (952) 454-4629
>>
>> xxxxx@comcast.net
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:
>> xxxxx@lists.osr.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin O’Brien
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:34 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: Re: [windbg] [WinDbg] Debugging over PCIe to Serial card
>>
>>
>>
>> If you mean, for example, adding a PCI based serial port card, then, no
>> I’ve never seen that work. Perhaps you’ve used ones that can assume the
>> standard com1/com2 addresses?
>>
>>
>> mm
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Gary G. Little
>> wrote:
>>
>> You must mean a PMCIA card that won?t work.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know I have shoved serial cards into peripheral slots in the mother
>> board on either host or target and banged away with WinDbg.
>>
>>
>>
>> I cannot believe the number of manufactures? that continually handicap
>> themselves by not providing minimal tools for debugging. Maybe their
>> arrogance tells them that all their hardware and software is always perfect,
>> and hence on one needs to debug anything on their machines.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary G. Little
>>
>> H (952) 223-1349
>>
>> C (952) 454-4629
>>
>> xxxxx@comcast.net
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:
>> xxxxx@lists.osr.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin O’Brien
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:12 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: Re: [windbg] [WinDbg] Debugging over PCIe to Serial card
>>
>>
>>
>> >The best you can do to add it is either a true serial card in a
>> peripheral slot.
>>
>> That won’t work. KD won’t recognize a serial port add in card.
>>
>> The reason that his card won’t work is because it is an add in serial
>> port. He needs to get a supported 1394 add in card, unless he wants to try
>> usb kd.
>>
>>
>> mm
>>
>> Gary G. Little
>> H (952) 223-1349
>> C (952) 454-4629
>> xxxxx@comcast.net
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
>> xxxxx@gmail.com
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:56 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: [windbg] Debugging over PCIe to Serial card
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> I’m trying to kernel debug an XP system on a netbook which comes with no
>> serial port and no firewire.
>> I’ve bought a mini PCIe to Serial card that feeds off 1x PCIe. The card is
>> based on Oxford 16950 chipset.
>> I’ve installed it inside the netbook (one spare mini-PCIe) and Windows
>> sees
>> it. I needed to install drivers for a device called multi-port serial
>> adapter and then drivers for the 2 serial ports offered by the card.
>> I’ve successfully tested the serial connection with a null modem cable
>> with
>> hyperterminal.
>>
>> However I’ve had no success establishing a kernel debug link at boot time.
>> Windbg simply does not connect to the target.
>>
>> So I’m turning to the community, hoping others have tried to do the same
>> thing. Any words of advice?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Gary G. Little
>> wrote:
>>
>> The target system for WinDbg must have native support for either serial
>> (COM1/COM2) or 1394. The best you can do to add it is either a true serial
>> card in a peripheral slot. The target requires the serial and 1394 ports
>> to
>> be available at boot time. I believe a PCMCIA 1394 may work, but there all
>> I
>> have tried has been on the host.
>>
>> Also, usually the COM1/COM2 ports are based 16550, not 16950. There might
>> be
>> a different pin out between the two, though I would think it would work
>> given the target saw a COM port at the proper time during the boot. Is
>> there
>> a BIOD option that can be set with the PCIe in play?
>>
>> Gary G. Little
>> H (952) 223-1349
>> C (952) 454-4629
>> xxxxx@comcast.net
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>> [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of
>> xxxxx@gmail.com
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:56 PM
>> To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
>> Subject: [windbg] Debugging over PCIe to Serial card
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> I’m trying to kernel debug an XP system on a netbook which comes with no
>> serial port and no firewire.
>> I’ve bought a mini PCIe to Serial card that feeds off 1x PCIe. The card is
>> based on Oxford 16950 chipset.
>> I’ve installed it inside the netbook (one spare mini-PCIe) and Windows
>> sees
>> it. I needed to install drivers for a device called multi-port serial
>> adapter and then drivers for the 2 serial ports offered by the card.
>> I’ve successfully tested the serial connection with a null modem cable
>> with
>> hyperterminal.
>>
>> However I’ve had no success establishing a kernel debug link at boot time.
>> Windbg simply does not connect to the target.
>>
>> So I’m turning to the community, hoping others have tried to do the same
>> thing. Any words of advice?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> —
>> WINDBG is sponsored by OSR
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>> For our schedule of WDF, WDM, debugging and other seminars visit:
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