I think even XP SP3 and 2003 are different, at least WinDbg knows this difference.
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Maxim S. Shatskih
Windows DDK MVP
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
“Don Burn” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Should have said XP SP1 and Server 2003 to be precise, but these days I
> assume people have applied the service packs, at which point they are the
> same kernel.
>
>
> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DKD)
> Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> Website: http://www.windrvr.com
> Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Maxim S. Shatskih [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
>> Posted At: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:46 PM
>> Posted To: ntdev
>> Conversation: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
>> Windows PC
>> Edition?
>> Subject: Re: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
>> Windows PC
>> Edition?
>>
>> > some kernel versions (for example storport in Server 2003, but not XP
>> > which is essentially the same kernel).
>>
>> It is not the same, some functions are appeared first in 2003 and not in
>> XP.
>>
>> XP 64 is the same as 2003.
>>
>> –
>> Maxim S. Shatskih
>> Windows DDK MVP
>> xxxxx@storagecraft.com
>> http://www.storagecraft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> signature
>> database 5253 (20100705)
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>
>
From XP SP1 and 2003 RTM onwards the only differences are essentially in
the registry and the packaging. Same as Vista SP1 and Server 2008. They
may print out differently in WinDBG, but the guts are the same.
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DKD)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
-----Original Message-----
From: Maxim S. Shatskih [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Posted At: Monday, July 05, 2010 4:41 PM
Posted To: ntdev
Conversation: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
Windows PC
Edition?
Subject: Re: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
Windows PC
I think even XP SP3 and 2003 are different, at least WinDbg knows
this
difference.
–
Maxim S. Shatskih
Windows DDK MVP
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
“Don Burn” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > Should have said XP SP1 and Server 2003 to be precise, but these days
> > I assume people have applied the service packs, at which point they
> > are the same kernel.
> >
> >
> > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DKD)
> > Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> > Website: http://www.windrvr.com
> > Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Maxim S. Shatskih [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com] Posted At:
> >> Monday, July 05, 2010 3:46 PM Posted To: ntdev
> >> Conversation: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
> >> Windows PC Edition?
> >> Subject: Re: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
> >> Windows PC Edition?
> >>
> >> > some kernel versions (for example storport in Server 2003, but not
> >> > XP which is essentially the same kernel).
> >>
> >> It is not the same, some functions are appeared first in 2003 and not
> >> in XP.
> >>
> >> XP 64 is the same as 2003.
> >>
> >> –
> >> Maxim S. Shatskih
> >> Windows DDK MVP
> >> xxxxx@storagecraft.com
> >> http://www.storagecraft.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> >> signature database 5253 (20100705)
> >>
> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> >>
> >> http://www.eset.com
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> signature
> database 5253 (20100705)
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
Don,
I’m afraid that this isn’t the case. XP (32-bit) and srv03 are different code bases and use different kernel binaries. You might be thinking of XP x64 and srv03 x64 which are the same kernel.
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com [mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Don Burn
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:16 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re:[ntdev] What the difference between Windows Server Edition & Windows PC
From XP SP1 and 2003 RTM onwards the only differences are essentially in
the registry and the packaging. Same as Vista SP1 and Server 2008. They
may print out differently in WinDBG, but the guts are the same.
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DKD)
Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
-----Original Message-----
From: Maxim S. Shatskih [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Posted At: Monday, July 05, 2010 4:41 PM
Posted To: ntdev
Conversation: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
Windows PC
Edition?
Subject: Re: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
Windows PC
I think even XP SP3 and 2003 are different, at least WinDbg knows
this
difference.
–
Maxim S. Shatskih
Windows DDK MVP
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
“Don Burn” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > Should have said XP SP1 and Server 2003 to be precise, but these days
> > I assume people have applied the service packs, at which point they
> > are the same kernel.
> >
> >
> > Don Burn (MVP, Windows DKD)
> > Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> > Website: http://www.windrvr.com
> > Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Maxim S. Shatskih [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com] Posted At:
> >> Monday, July 05, 2010 3:46 PM Posted To: ntdev
> >> Conversation: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
> >> Windows PC Edition?
> >> Subject: Re: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
> >> Windows PC Edition?
> >>
> >> > some kernel versions (for example storport in Server 2003, but not
> >> > XP which is essentially the same kernel).
> >>
> >> It is not the same, some functions are appeared first in 2003 and not
> >> in XP.
> >>
> >> XP 64 is the same as 2003.
> >>
> >> –
> >> Maxim S. Shatskih
> >> Windows DDK MVP
> >> xxxxx@storagecraft.com
> >> http://www.storagecraft.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> >> signature database 5253 (20100705)
> >>
> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> >>
> >> http://www.eset.com
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> signature
> database 5253 (20100705)
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
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Right: XP x64 RTM and Srv03 SP1 x64… to be specific.
We should publish the table of equivalent Client/Server releases. It was all so clear at the time, but who can actually remember?
Let’s see… the way to track which client release corresponds to which server release is by tracking where and how they were built.
IIRC, there’s no exact equivalent for x86 between the XP and S03 releases: XP x86 RTM was released in the summer of 2001; It stayed in the main build lab (with work continuing on it) and XP SP1 was released in the fall of 2002…
That code base must have remained in MAIN/VBLs (again, with work continuing on it) and S03 was RTM’ed in the spring of 2003.
I’m also quite sure the S03 code-base continued to be built in MAIN through S03 Sp1/XP x64 RTM (spring of 2005), because the work in getting the required functionality (and code signing, etc) for XP x64 was quite intense.
I think after that, the code was released to Sustained Engineering, where subsequent SPs were released. XP SP2 was released in the summer of 2005. I think.
Whew!
Any corrections/additions/amendments to the above from those who were there would be appreciated…
Peter
OSR
>released. XP SP2 was released in the summer of 2005.
August 04
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Maxim S. Shatskih
Windows DDK MVP
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
YES! Summer 2004, you are correct. Good catch, thanks.
Peter
OSR
Tear out chart in next NT insider? Start a new trend? Centerfolds for
geeks? I think I started a fire with the MFC class heirarchy chart when I
ran out of Boston Globe pages but a disambiguating timeline of NT releases
would get laminated and given wall space.
Thanks for dredging this stuff up.
Dave Cattley
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of xxxxx@osr.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:46 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: RE:[ntdev] Re: What the difference between Windows Server Edition &
Windows PC
YES! Summer 2004, you are correct. Good catch, thanks.
Peter
OSR
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Actually, yes… that’s what I was thinking 
Wow… that’s a serious measure of importance right there.
Let’s see what we can do. Hey, it’s probably easier than writing an actual article.
(FLASH: The July/August issue of The NT Insider is going to be available in PDF format only as a test… but I’m not supposed to say anything about it until it’s announced)
Peter
OSR