Hey I didn’t bring this stupid topic in here. But, I would like to settle
this once and for all.
Interesting, that is a shift for Redhat. But, again, they are hardly a
small software shop, which is what I am concerned with. The point is, that
a company, say like the maintainers of this particular message board, would
have an impossible task trying to survive on other than service revenue
under GPL. Someone throw an example of a small shop doing this in the ring.
Somebody producing something on the scale of a filesystem driver toolkit.
Anyone? Anyone?
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Compuware Corporation
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“McDowell, Steve” wrote in message
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RTFM.
According to Red Hat’s annual report for FY2003, they did $48.5M in
software subscriptions, against $42.3M in services, for their nearly
$90M close.
Can we take this out of the ntdev forum? It doesn’t belong.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill McKenzie [mailto:xxxxx@compuware.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:23 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: value of open-source in the driver community (was
“how to execute a process…”)
RedHat revenue is almost entirely service revenue. We want product
revenue.
Next.
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“McDowell, Steve” wrote in message
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> Does anyone know of a company that is making money with software
> whose source is under GPL?
Red Hat, $27.2M revenue last quarter w/ 1.5M income.
What’s any of this have to do with technical discussion of windows
driver development??
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Burn [mailto:xxxxx@acm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:45 AM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: value of open-source in the driver community (was
“how to execute a process…”)
You two are talking apples and oranges (or is that windows). The EDA
companies do not put their code under GPL, they just run their
application
on a GPL’d OS. To rephrase Bill’s question, does anyone know of a
company
that is making money with software whose source is under GPL?
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
----- Original Message -----
From: “Bill McKenzie”
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: “Windows System Software Developers Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: value of open-source in the driver community (was
“how
to execute a process…”)
> Alright fair enough, but this goes back to my earlier point, I made
here
or
> in some other forum I can’t remember. That is, if your software is
HUGE,
> such that reproducing it would require a team of engineers many
months,
then
> you can probably make a play here. Borland has obviously done this as
well.
> The small guy is screwed though, and that is who I am asking about
here.
> So, I guess I should have said name the company under 30 people or
> individual who have made a go here. I don’t think you can, nobody has
> thrown any convincing proof otherwise. Someone like me, my company,
or
> PCAUSA, or anyone in the Windows kernel space really, would get
screwed
> under the GPL model. Not something I want to embrace.
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer
tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
> “Stephen Williams” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > Bill McKenzie bill.mckenzie-at-compuware.com |ntdev/1.0-Allow|
wrote:
> > > Well, this sounds nice, good, positive, upbeat, win-win, and all,
but
I
> like
> > > fact. Who, what company or individual, has made money in software
> products
> > > on linux? Not service revenue, not hardware revenue, but who has
> actually
> > > generated software product revenue in linux successfully and over
time?
> >
> > Just about all the big name EDA vendors (Cadence, Synopsis, etc.)
> > sell into the Linux environment. Easy transition for them, they
> > also normally support Solaris. Xilinx is one of the last to sell
> > software to Linux users, but they are coming out with a Linux port
> > sometime this month.
> >
> > –
> > Steve Williams “The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
> > steve at icarus.com But I have promises to keep,
> > http://www.icarus.com and lines to code before I sleep,
> > http://www.picturel.com And lines to code before I sleep.”
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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