RE: Member Feedback Wanted: Remove email address of posters ?

NTDEV
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Yes just providing the Full Name is a good feature. Please do that for
my account.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Angelo Joseph
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:00 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Member Feedback Wanted: Remove email address of
posters?

I apologize for the semi-off-topic post, but we need feedback from the
membership. If you don’t care about email addresses in posts, hit
delete now.

Note that when you joined NTDEV, you specified your email address as
well as a textual “full name” – Presently, these are both used to
identify you when email is distributed by the list.

After some checking, it seems that we can substitute the list’s email
addresses for the poster’s email address and leave the poster’s “full
name”. I’ve enabled this feature for this message (I think)… the
envelope sender of this message should read “xxxxx@lists.osr.com” along
with my full name.

This change, while significant, would ensure poster’s email addresses
are not distributed via email.

This would NOT affect posting: You’d still have to post email to the
list from the exact email account you joined with.

Also, note that users who access the list via NNTP *would* be able to
see poster’s email addresses embedded in NNTP message headers. Take a
look at this email via NNTP to see what it’s like.

Postings viewed via the web interface will continue to have the part of
their email addresses to the left of the “@” sign changed to “xxxxx”.

Finally, note that there are a FEW members (all who joined before 2003)
who joined without specifying “full names” – These would have their
email addresses provided in place of the “full name” and they could
change this quite easily by logging into OSR Online and specifying a
full name.

What do you think? Worthwhile, not worth it, don’t care??

We’d like to receive your feedback (or questions) directly (to
xxxxx@osr.com) as opposed to further spamming everyone on the
list.

Thanks,

Peter
OSR
Sometimes List Slave

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To be clear: It’s not an “account by account” kind of option. We’d have to
switch over the entire server…

P

“Angelo Joseph” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
Yes just providing the Full Name is a good feature. Please do that for
my account.
Thanks

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Peter Viscarola wrote:

To be clear: It’s not an “account by account” kind of option. We’d have to
switch over the entire server…

Right. I replied privately, as we were asked to, but after seeing a
couple of “go for it” replies, I feel compelled to respond more broadly.

If this change were made, it would be impossible to respond privately.
I happen to include my public e-mail address in my signature, but most
folks don’t. There are many cases where a conversation here drifts into
something that should be handled privately by e-mail. After this
change, you’d have to send a public message saying “Joe, we should
continue privately; please respond offline to xxxxx@what.com.”

Further, anonymity reduces accountability. When a script kiddie asks a
question with obviously ill-intended aims, we have their e-mail address,
and can remember when it comes up again. When that kiddie is anonymous,
we lose that one small level of protection.

I understand that this is not a democracy, but since you asked, I am
against this proposal.

–
Tim Roberts, xxxxx@probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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OK, I had a half-written private reply but if this discussions comes the list, let’s go.

I agree will Tim and other saying e-mail addresses are useful for the reasons stated. Also, I don’t think the OSR lists are harvested for spam. Since I switched e-mail few years before, I haven’t received any spam until the last month.

Said this, the only advantage I see is stopping OOF replies which is real PITA. Some list member, usually those who don’t ever post, are too careless about their OOF settings or maybe they’re unable to set it correctly because of their IT policy. But this problem could be solved without complete e-mail addresses removal. If listserv is able to change e-mail address in headers, evething necessary is to obfusctate it so it is human readable. It could also have possitive effect for not-so-smart spambots. Something like “xxxxx@email.com.oof.off”.

So generally, I’m against the proposal but I’d appeciate simple obfuscation if possible.

Best regards,

Michal Vodicka
UPEK, Inc.
[xxxxx@upek.com, http://www.upek.com]

From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com[SMTP:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] on behalf of Tim Roberts[SMTP:xxxxx@probo.com]
Reply To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:59 PM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: Re: [ntdev] Member Feedback Wanted: Remove email address of posters ?

Peter Viscarola wrote:

>To be clear: It’s not an “account by account” kind of option. We’d have to
>switch over the entire server…
>
>

Right. I replied privately, as we were asked to, but after seeing a
couple of “go for it” replies, I feel compelled to respond more broadly.

If this change were made, it would be impossible to respond privately.
I happen to include my public e-mail address in my signature, but most
folks don’t. There are many cases where a conversation here drifts into
something that should be handled privately by e-mail. After this
change, you’d have to send a public message saying “Joe, we should
continue privately; please respond offline to xxxxx@what.com.”

Further, anonymity reduces accountability. When a script kiddie asks a
question with obviously ill-intended aims, we have their e-mail address,
and can remember when it comes up again. When that kiddie is anonymous,
we lose that one small level of protection.

I understand that this is not a democracy, but since you asked, I am
against this proposal.

–
Tim Roberts, xxxxx@probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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