Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r Jungo WinDriver?)

Yes I know, and you can read the “truth and nothing but the truth” from the
MS KB Article - Q156344

And within Q142642 you will find :

“The enabler does not contain complete Windows 95 Plug and Play support. For
example, the enabler does not dynamically allocate resources for PnP ISA
devices. It does, however, enable a user interface (UI) that allows you to
manually select system resources that do not conflict with other devices in
the system.”

As you may know, drivers installed for detected devices ( with or without
the PnP enabler ) are still legacy drivers , not PnP drivers.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Moreira, Alberto”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:44 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r Jungo
WinDriver?)

> Do a Google Search on “NT4 PnP”. You’ll be surprised. There’s a file in
the
> NT4 CD, at \DRVLIB\PNPISA\X86\PNPISA.INF, right click, click “install”,
> reboot, enjoy. It has to do with sound cards.
>
> Alberto.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:25 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> Jungo WinDriver?)
>
>
>
> Let’s summarize :
>
> - there is NO newer NT40 DDK
> - there is NO support for PnP ISA or WDM on NT40 ( unless you “read” the
> PnPPorts sample which is just a CPL applet )
> Just give me the name of a “DriverWorks” sample for NT40 that supports
PnP
> .
> - Oney’s wizard supports at least theWDM
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Miramonti, John”
> To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:50 PM
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
Jungo
> WinDriver?)
>
>
> > Lot’s here…hmmm. Again, we’re not concerned with W2K/XP, I know we
can
> do it there.
> >
> > - Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?
> > - does it support PnP ISA?
> >
> > - Does Oney’s wizard support PnP ISA on WinNT 4? (Where do I get it to
> see?)
> > - DriverWorks advertises that they do, and they sort of do, but pieces
are
> broken, hence the patches we put in (with the DriverWorks people’s help).
> >
> > - Since no one else has responded, my guess is that nothing has changed,
> and it’s the same choice, (in other words I’ll continue with the patched
> DriverWorks or the cobbled PnP code I’ve already got).
> >
> > - I am interested in building drivers inside the 'Studio, but I’ll
tackle
> that after I answer this question. Thanks.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@Compaqnet.be]
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:44 PM
> > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> > Jungo WinDriver?)
> >
> >
> >
> > NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
> > Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on
> > NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of
> > drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are
> > still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.
> >
> > Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a
little
> > help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch files that
> > wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the OSR web
site
> > ) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
> > party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
> > functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
> > development
> > time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds, and probably
a
> > fall back to the native DDK functions… )
> >
> > You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of
building
> > drivers within Visual Studio environments.
> >
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I’m quite familiar with pnpisa.inf , etc.

It’s not generally known, but that thing will come up and configure the resources. It even fills out the registry. Your driver then comes up and looks in the registtry for it’s card and makes calls to allocate the resources. Some of this is documented, some isn’t, some you can figure out by reading the sound blaster sources, etc. This is what DriverWorks builds on top of and what our homegrown driver did too. This has all been there since day 1 of NT4. I haven’t looked at this for a couple years and I was just wondering if things had improved/gotten documented.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Moreira, Alberto [mailto:xxxxx@compuware.com]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:44 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r
Jungo WinDriver?)

Do a Google Search on “NT4 PnP”. You’ll be surprised. There’s a file in the
NT4 CD, at \DRVLIB\PNPISA\X86\PNPISA.INF, right click, click “install”,
reboot, enjoy. It has to do with sound cards.

Alberto.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:25 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
Jungo WinDriver?)

Let’s summarize :

  • there is NO newer NT40 DDK
  • there is NO support for PnP ISA or WDM on NT40 ( unless you “read” the
    PnPPorts sample which is just a CPL applet )
    Just give me the name of a “DriverWorks” sample for NT40 that supports PnP
    .
  • Oney’s wizard supports at least theWDM

----- Original Message -----
From: “Miramonti, John”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or Jungo
WinDriver?)

> Lot’s here…hmmm. Again, we’re not concerned with W2K/XP, I know we can
do it there.
>
> - Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?
> - does it support PnP ISA?
>
> - Does Oney’s wizard support PnP ISA on WinNT 4? (Where do I get it to
see?)
> - DriverWorks advertises that they do, and they sort of do, but pieces are
broken, hence the patches we put in (with the DriverWorks people’s help).
>
> - Since no one else has responded, my guess is that nothing has changed,
and it’s the same choice, (in other words I’ll continue with the patched
DriverWorks or the cobbled PnP code I’ve already got).
>
> - I am interested in building drivers inside the 'Studio, but I’ll tackle
that after I answer this question. Thanks.
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@Compaqnet.be]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:44 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> Jungo WinDriver?)
>
>
>
> NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
> Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on
> NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of
> drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are
> still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.
>
> Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a little
> help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch files that
> wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the OSR web site
> ) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
> party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
> functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
> development
> time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds, and probably a
> fall back to the native DDK functions… )
>
> You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of building
> drivers within Visual Studio environments.
>
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(Sorry folks, I guess I’m a little obtuse when it comes to the finer semantic distinctions.)

I hadn’t picked up on the distinction that a PnP ISA driver is a “legacy driver”. I can see that in that ISA is a “legacy bus”. Fine.

However, there are many cards out there, that are configured using the PnP ISA protocol (e.g. many network cards, and almost all sound blaster cards).

I’m not looking for “complete Windows 95 Plug and Play support”. I’m simply looking for a better set of tools than I’ve got to configure an ISA Pnp HARDWARE based design. I don’t really care if I have a “PnP” driver or a “legacy” driver when I’m done, but the fact remains the card has PnP ISA hardware on it, and to bring it up, the driver has to configure it.

Anybody know of a toolchain/example newer than what is in the old NT DDK that they would reccommend? It would appear there isn’t any.

Thanks,

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:49 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r
Jungo WinDriver?)

Yes I know, and you can read the “truth and nothing but the truth” from the
MS KB Article - Q156344

And within Q142642 you will find :

“The enabler does not contain complete Windows 95 Plug and Play support. For
example, the enabler does not dynamically allocate resources for PnP ISA
devices. It does, however, enable a user interface (UI) that allows you to
manually select system resources that do not conflict with other devices in
the system.”

As you may know, drivers installed for detected devices ( with or without
the PnP enabler ) are still legacy drivers , not PnP drivers.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Moreira, Alberto”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:44 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r Jungo
WinDriver?)

> Do a Google Search on “NT4 PnP”. You’ll be surprised. There’s a file in
the
> NT4 CD, at \DRVLIB\PNPISA\X86\PNPISA.INF, right click, click “install”,
> reboot, enjoy. It has to do with sound cards.
>
> Alberto.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:25 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> Jungo WinDriver?)
>
>
>
> Let’s summarize :
>
> - there is NO newer NT40 DDK
> - there is NO support for PnP ISA or WDM on NT40 ( unless you “read” the
> PnPPorts sample which is just a CPL applet )
> Just give me the name of a “DriverWorks” sample for NT40 that supports
PnP
> .
> - Oney’s wizard supports at least theWDM
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Miramonti, John”
> To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:50 PM
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
Jungo
> WinDriver?)
>
>
> > Lot’s here…hmmm. Again, we’re not concerned with W2K/XP, I know we
can
> do it there.
> >
> > - Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?
> > - does it support PnP ISA?
> >
> > - Does Oney’s wizard support PnP ISA on WinNT 4? (Where do I get it to
> see?)
> > - DriverWorks advertises that they do, and they sort of do, but pieces
are
> broken, hence the patches we put in (with the DriverWorks people’s help).
> >
> > - Since no one else has responded, my guess is that nothing has changed,
> and it’s the same choice, (in other words I’ll continue with the patched
> DriverWorks or the cobbled PnP code I’ve already got).
> >
> > - I am interested in building drivers inside the 'Studio, but I’ll
tackle
> that after I answer this question. Thanks.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@Compaqnet.be]
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:44 PM
> > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> > Jungo WinDriver?)
> >
> >
> >
> > NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
> > Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on
> > NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of
> > drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are
> > still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.
> >
> > Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a
little
> > help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch files that
> > wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the OSR web
site
> > ) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
> > party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
> > functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
> > development
> > time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds, and probably
a
> > fall back to the native DDK functions… )
> >
> > You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of
building
> > drivers within Visual Studio environments.
> >
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Well John, this is exactly the same what NT40 does with the “well know”
devices such as parallel port, serial ports at startup and without help of
the
“pnpisa.sys”. Nothing has been changed all the time. The “serial.sys” from
the DDK ( and the official version ) for example is a pure legacy driver
that
enumerates the resources that were found during startup. I cannot think
about
the fact that DriverWorks builds on top of the requirement that resources
are
provided in the HARDWARE hive within the HKLM registry.

Nothing has been added last years to support PnP on NT40, not even in the
DDK.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Miramonti, John”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:59 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r Jungo
WinDriver?)

> I’m quite familiar with pnpisa.inf , etc.
>
> It’s not generally known, but that thing will come up and configure the
resources. It even fills out the registry. Your driver then comes up and
looks in the registtry for it’s card and makes calls to allocate the
resources. Some of this is documented, some isn’t, some you can figure out
by reading the sound blaster sources, etc. This is what DriverWorks builds
on top of and what our homegrown driver did too. This has all been there
since day 1 of NT4. I haven’t looked at this for a couple years and I was
just wondering if things had improved/gotten documented.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Moreira, Alberto [mailto:xxxxx@compuware.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:44 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r
> Jungo WinDriver?)
>
>
> Do a Google Search on “NT4 PnP”. You’ll be surprised. There’s a file in
the
> NT4 CD, at \DRVLIB\PNPISA\X86\PNPISA.INF, right click, click “install”,
> reboot, enjoy. It has to do with sound cards.
>
> Alberto.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:25 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> Jungo WinDriver?)
>
>
>
> Let’s summarize :
>
> - there is NO newer NT40 DDK
> - there is NO support for PnP ISA or WDM on NT40 ( unless you “read” the
> PnPPorts sample which is just a CPL applet )
> Just give me the name of a “DriverWorks” sample for NT40 that supports
PnP
> .
> - Oney’s wizard supports at least theWDM
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Miramonti, John”
> To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:50 PM
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
Jungo
> WinDriver?)
>
>
> > Lot’s here…hmmm. Again, we’re not concerned with W2K/XP, I know we
can
> do it there.
> >
> > - Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?
> > - does it support PnP ISA?
> >
> > - Does Oney’s wizard support PnP ISA on WinNT 4? (Where do I get it to
> see?)
> > - DriverWorks advertises that they do, and they sort of do, but pieces
are
> broken, hence the patches we put in (with the DriverWorks people’s help).
> >
> > - Since no one else has responded, my guess is that nothing has changed,
> and it’s the same choice, (in other words I’ll continue with the patched
> DriverWorks or the cobbled PnP code I’ve already got).
> >
> > - I am interested in building drivers inside the 'Studio, but I’ll
tackle
> that after I answer this question. Thanks.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@Compaqnet.be]
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:44 PM
> > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> > Jungo WinDriver?)
> >
> >
> >
> > NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
> > Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on
> > NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of
> > drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are
> > still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.
> >
> > Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a
little
> > help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch files that
> > wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the OSR web
site
> > ) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
> > party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
> > functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
> > development
> > time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds, and probably
a
> > fall back to the native DDK functions… )
> >
> > You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of
building
> > drivers within Visual Studio environments.
> >
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Hi, John:

What you need to do is not obsessed with PnP issue (whether it is obsolete ISA bus or PCI bus). For NT 4.0, simple set your resource requirement in INF. In your driver, just scan the bus to see which slot your card is sitting on using HalXXX and then report your resource usage to IoManager, if it succeed, fine, otherwise, poke the PCI-ISA bridge or the ISA card to change its resource requirement, usually chang port io or memory mapped io base address etc.

There is sample codes in one of the earlest NT driver book for (Author name is Art Baker?). Don’t ask me ISA question anymore. I have not touched that kind of things since 1996. You apparently still live in a past world when you say many networks and almost all sound blaster cards are ISA. Now a day 100Tx PCI 2.2 network card cost $5 and many low end PCI sound card cost similarly. Sound blaster cards have long been PCI for more than 8 years.

Bi

-----Original Message-----
From: Miramonti, John [mailto:xxxxx@livco.com]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:10 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r
Jungo WinDriver?)

(Sorry folks, I guess I’m a little obtuse when it comes to the finer semantic distinctions.)

I hadn’t picked up on the distinction that a PnP ISA driver is a “legacy driver”. I can see that in that ISA is a “legacy bus”. Fine.

However, there are many cards out there, that are configured using the PnP ISA protocol (e.g. many network cards, and almost all sound blaster cards).

I’m not looking for “complete Windows 95 Plug and Play support”. I’m simply looking for a better set of tools than I’ve got to configure an ISA Pnp HARDWARE based design. I don’t really care if I have a “PnP” driver or a “legacy” driver when I’m done, but the fact remains the card has PnP ISA hardware on it, and to bring it up, the driver has to configure it.

Anybody know of a toolchain/example newer than what is in the old NT DDK that they would reccommend? It would appear there isn’t any.

Thanks,

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:49 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r
Jungo WinDriver?)

Yes I know, and you can read the “truth and nothing but the truth” from the
MS KB Article - Q156344

And within Q142642 you will find :

“The enabler does not contain complete Windows 95 Plug and Play support. For
example, the enabler does not dynamically allocate resources for PnP ISA
devices. It does, however, enable a user interface (UI) that allows you to
manually select system resources that do not conflict with other devices in
the system.”

As you may know, drivers installed for detected devices ( with or without
the PnP enabler ) are still legacy drivers , not PnP drivers.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Moreira, Alberto”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:44 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks o r Jungo
WinDriver?)

> Do a Google Search on “NT4 PnP”. You’ll be surprised. There’s a file in
the
> NT4 CD, at \DRVLIB\PNPISA\X86\PNPISA.INF, right click, click “install”,
> reboot, enjoy. It has to do with sound cards.
>
> Alberto.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@CompaqNet.be]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:25 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> Jungo WinDriver?)
>
>
>
> Let’s summarize :
>
> - there is NO newer NT40 DDK
> - there is NO support for PnP ISA or WDM on NT40 ( unless you “read” the
> PnPPorts sample which is just a CPL applet )
> Just give me the name of a “DriverWorks” sample for NT40 that supports
PnP
> .
> - Oney’s wizard supports at least theWDM
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: “Miramonti, John”
> To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:50 PM
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
Jungo
> WinDriver?)
>
>
> > Lot’s here…hmmm. Again, we’re not concerned with W2K/XP, I know we
can
> do it there.
> >
> > - Is WDM supported with the newer DDK on WinNT 4?
> > - does it support PnP ISA?
> >
> > - Does Oney’s wizard support PnP ISA on WinNT 4? (Where do I get it to
> see?)
> > - DriverWorks advertises that they do, and they sort of do, but pieces
are
> broken, hence the patches we put in (with the DriverWorks people’s help).
> >
> > - Since no one else has responded, my guess is that nothing has changed,
> and it’s the same choice, (in other words I’ll continue with the patched
> DriverWorks or the cobbled PnP code I’ve already got).
> >
> > - I am interested in building drivers inside the 'Studio, but I’ll
tackle
> that after I answer this question. Thanks.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christiaan Ghijselinck [mailto:xxxxx@Compaqnet.be]
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:44 PM
> > To: NT Developers Interest List
> > Subject: [ntdev] Re: How do I do ISA PnP? (NOT! Numega DriverWorks or
> > Jungo WinDriver?)
> >
> >
> >
> > NT40 does not support PnP in the sense it is used today on W2K and XP.
> > Drivers that supported devices that were automatically detected on
> > NT40, are still legacy drivers ( serial , mouse , ). These kind of
> > drivers must be WDM compliant on XP/W2K. Although legacy drivers are
> > still supported for non PnP, Microsoft does recommend to use the WDM.
> >
> > Most people here recommend the use of the DDK only, perhaps with a
little
> > help from a wizard ( Walter Oney provides one ) and/or batch files that
> > wrap build.exe of the DDK’s ( see resources - download at the OSR web
site
> > ) that allows comfortable programming in i.e. Visual Studio 6/NET. Third
> > party librairies are always wrappers of existing, documented driver
> > functions. They will speed up coding, but slow down the overall
> > development
> > time when problems occur ( support requests , work arounds, and probably
a
> > fall back to the native DDK functions… )
> >
> > You may E-mail me personally, if you would try out my own way of
building
> > drivers within Visual Studio environments.
> >
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