Re: how can i handle string operation in kernel mini driver?

OSR_Community_User · July 16, 2003, 5:31pm

It happened as recently as a few weeks ago to a coworker running 2.7. I
recall it being an event that would repro maybe 1 in 10 times if you
translated a large binary and then immediately loaded the resulting NMS
(i.e. two lines in a batch file). The support interaction was maybe a
year and a half ago.

Moreira, Alberto wrote:

You must admit that in can be pretty hard for us to reproduce a problem that
occurs when you try to package symbols with source code, if either symbols,
source code, or both, is not available. But I’ll prod our support people,
when did you interact with them, and which DriverStudio release was that ?

Alberto.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Ryan [mailto:xxxxx@nryan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:39 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: how can i handle string operation in kernel mini
driver?

Haven’t tried DS 3.0 much yet, but SoftIce crashing when translating and
then quickly loading symbols has been a bug for 3-4 years that’s never
been resolved. Last time I remember interacting with support on it they
wanted us to send them our source code.

Michal Vodicka wrote:

>>----------
>>From:
>>xxxxx@compuware.com[SMTP:xxxxx@compuware.com]
>>Reply To: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:47 PM
>>To: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>>Subject: [ntdev] Re: how can i handle string operation in kernel mini
>>driver?
>>
>>Somehow I don’t think this is the right way of doing business. A device
>>driver, by its very position in the hierarchy, should not have to worry
>>about bad input, small stacks, or anything of that sort. After all, that’s
>>why it’s trusted code, no ?
>>
>
>Ouch. Now I understand why SI crashes when NMS from newer version is

loaded.

>Sorry, I couldn’t resist because haven’t received satisfying reply from
>support.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Michal Vodicka
>STMicroelectronics Design and Application s.r.o.
>[michal.vodicka@st.com, http:://www.st.com]
>
>
>
>
>
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OSR_Community_User · July 16, 2003, 8:37pm

Depends on how much per-share Compuware is willing to spend.

Mesdaq, Ali wrote:

What’s wrong with sending them all your source?

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Ryan [mailto:xxxxx@nryan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 1:39 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: how can i handle string operation in kernel mini
driver?

Haven’t tried DS 3.0 much yet, but SoftIce crashing when translating and
then quickly loading symbols has been a bug for 3-4 years that’s never
been resolved. Last time I remember interacting with support on it they
wanted us to send them our source code.

Michal Vodicka wrote:
>>----------
>>From:
>>xxxxx@compuware.com[SMTP:xxxxx@compuware.com]
>>Reply To: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:47 PM
>>To: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>>Subject: [ntdev] Re: how can i handle string operation in kernel
mini
>>driver?
>>
>>Somehow I don’t think this is the right way of doing business. A device
>>driver, by its very position in the hierarchy, should not have to worry
>>about bad input, small stacks, or anything of that sort. After all,
that’s
>>why it’s trusted code, no ?
>>
>
> Ouch. Now I understand why SI crashes when NMS from newer version is
loaded.
> Sorry, I couldn’t resist because haven’t received satisfying reply from
> support.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michal Vodicka
> STMicroelectronics Design and Application s.r.o.
> [michal.vodicka@st.com, http:://www.st.com]
>
>
>
>
>
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> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@nryan.com
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OSR_Community_User · July 17, 2003, 1:58pm

Yeah, we have DS 3.0. I don’t use it much anymore, but others do, so
I’ll let them know.

Moreira, Alberto wrote:

Nick,

I get the word from the SoftICE-guru-in-charge that this has been fixed in
DS 3.0. If you have access to DS 3.0, maybe you could try and see if your
problem is indeed fixed ? If not, drop me an email and we’ll take another
look.

Alberto.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Ryan [mailto:xxxxx@nryan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:31 PM
To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: how can i handle string operation in kernel mini
driver?

It happened as recently as a few weeks ago to a coworker running 2.7. I
recall it being an event that would repro maybe 1 in 10 times if you
translated a large binary and then immediately loaded the resulting NMS
(i.e. two lines in a batch file). The support interaction was maybe a
year and a half ago.

Moreira, Alberto wrote:

>You must admit that in can be pretty hard for us to reproduce a problem

that

>occurs when you try to package symbols with source code, if either

symbols,

>source code, or both, is not available. But I’ll prod our support people,
>when did you interact with them, and which DriverStudio release was that ?

>Alberto.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nick Ryan [mailto:xxxxx@nryan.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:39 PM
>To: Windows System Software Developers Interest List
>Subject: [ntdev] Re: how can i handle string operation in kernel mini
>driver?
>
>
>Haven’t tried DS 3.0 much yet, but SoftIce crashing when translating and
>then quickly loading symbols has been a bug for 3-4 years that’s never
>been resolved. Last time I remember interacting with support on it they
>wanted us to send them our source code.
>
>Michal Vodicka wrote:
>
>
>>>----------
>>>From:
>>>xxxxx@compuware.com[SMTP:xxxxx@compuware.com]
>>>Reply To: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:47 PM
>>>To: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>>>Subject: [ntdev] Re: how can i handle string operation in kernel mini
>>>driver?
>>>
>>>Somehow I don’t think this is the right way of doing business. A device
>>>driver, by its very position in the hierarchy, should not have to worry
>>>about bad input, small stacks, or anything of that sort. After all,

that’s

>>>why it’s trusted code, no ?
>>>
>>
>>Ouch. Now I understand why SI crashes when NMS from newer version is
>
>loaded.
>
>
>>Sorry, I couldn’t resist because haven’t received satisfying reply from
>>support.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Michal Vodicka
>>STMicroelectronics Design and Application s.r.o.
>>[michal.vodicka@st.com, http:://www.st.com]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>—
>>You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@nryan.com
>>To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>>
>
>

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