Re: Certification for windows device driver developer s

Er no, doctors go to school for whatever, but in order to practice in a
specialty they get ‘board certified’ by the appropriate professional
association, who may also decertify them. Before you propose a
counterfactual you really ought to find out if it is true.

A simple google of:
medical certification process
would have prevented this mistake.

For example: http://www.abns.org/certproc.htm

I have no problem with software professionals getting certified in their
area of expertise, as long as the process is fair and reasonable.

-----Original Message-----
From: Asher Hoodin [mailto:xxxxx@aam-ch.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:04 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Certification for windows device driver
developer s

They dont get certified they go to college for 10 years.
Big difference. Certification = waste.

HAND,
Asher
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Roddy, Mark
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:32 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Certification for windows device driver
developer s

You feel the same way about certification of other
professionals, such as, for example, doctors?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ntdev Reader [mailto:xxxxx@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:29 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Certification for windows device driver
> developers
>
>
> Yeah, certification is really a VERY BAD idea. What it will
> turn into is that bosses around will start requiring the
> certification and driver developers will have to pay money to
> the certifying authority maybe even including travelling
> there, for who would certify you by e-mail or phone? And your
> current boss will not pay for this, for he already knows your
> abilities. You will have to pay yourself, to get a
> certificate before you find another job. So, this will just
> transfer money from your pocket to the certifier, and won’t
> make you any better developer. And they still won’t hire
> people without experience :slight_smile:
>
> What the original poster’s boss is looking for is likely to
> find pretexts to be able to lay off somebody if a need
> arises. The only cure for this is to spend more time learning
> and demonstrating to him that you can to a good job. The boss
> needs reliable drivers in predictable time. If you can give
> him this, he will love you. Otherwise no certification will help.
>
> — Asher Hoodin wrote:
> > > OSR already has seminars. Other companies have WDM
> > Training. Bother
> > > to look at the OSR web sight. As for certification in
> > general…well
> > > MCSE failed miserably at making an inexperienced workforce
> > any good.
> > > Nobody I have ever met is an MCSD. Maybe your boss should
> > spring for
> > > some seminars. I am sure that some third party companies
> > have testing
> > > available. I will forward
> > > the names of the companies shortly.
> > >
> > > Asher
> > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > These not being the best of times, my Boss wants me take
> > some sort
> > > > of tests to quantify my proficiency in Windows device driver
> > > > development.
> > > >
> > > > Does any one of you know of good certifying authorities in
> > > > driverland. If there are no one, does OSR plan to certify?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Vinay.
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