Alberto,
In that case why you need an assembler? Use flip flops and switches [the
mechanical] to enter ones and zeros 
If you are still in lack of
efficiency use the analytic engine!!!
Gary pointed out the C/C++ issue is like chicken egg controversy I think
this is the most widely argued topic along with the WinDBG or SoftICE one.
Hi OSR slave, you can demand an agreement like “you will NOT post any of the
below mentioned topics” while signing in …
1)Which is better C or C++ [I do remember a posting by Max, originally from
a Russian MS guy or so]
2)Compare SoftICE and WinDBG [Like comparing rice and wheat!]
3)How to share memory between user mode and kernel mode [Answered such a
number of times!]
NB: Arguments are the spices of life :))
Govind
-----Original Message-----
From: Moreira, Alberto [mailto:xxxxx@compuware.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:27 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: C++ in kernel. was Re: Batch file for Visual Stud
io build,
Gary, I predate C. Before Kernighan and Ritchie, before Burroughs Algol,
what language do you think we old farts used to write operating systems ?
And actually, the last driver I wrote for Win9x, not that long ago, was
written in Assembler.
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary G. Little [mailto:xxxxx@inland.net]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:39 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: C++ in kernel. was Re: Batch file for Visual Stud
io build,
Brag brag brag … and if I state that I have directly written in
machine language (ya know … that stuff that all assemblers out put) … I
guess I would have you beat. I have done that by the way. It’s not
enjoyable, and I do have much more better things to do with my time, like
swimming with my grandkids, but I can do that mundane task when
required.Really big whoop.
I can see that there are two never ending threads in these groups …
One is the Eternal tale of Princess C being devoured by the Obseqious Ogre
of OOPS. Hmmm in that one the evil wizard Alberto flings brazen bolts of
obfuscation against the pitifal palace of C while Sir Roddy, Sir Shatski,
and other white knights of C-dumb utilize the “force” to deflect these
phlaming phlatulants.
The second has mostly the same characters … Evil Alberto, Sir Roddy and
Sir Shatski. Hmmm really its the same story line … but instead of Princess
C in the palace of C, it’s his highness Kernel OS in the Fortress of HAL.
oohhhh this is getting silly …
–
Gary G. Little
Have Computer, Will Travel …
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909-551-2105
“Moreira, Alberto” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> Well, this kernel dev has actually developed drivers in assembler, and let
> me tell you, sometimes I prefer it over C.
>
> Alberto.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Viscarola [mailto:xxxxx@osr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:45 PM
> To: NT Developers Interest List
> Subject: [ntdev] Re: C++ in kernel. was Re: Batch file for Visual Studio
> build,
>
>
> “Andrew Sloven” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> >
> > It’s up to programmer to decide under which
> > circumstances to use certain language.
> >
>
> Or not. Can you write drivers for NT today in VB (even VB.NET)? Or in
IA64
> assembler language?
>
> Well, you COULD do these things but the effort required makes them
> impractical, at the very least. So, at least at face value your statement
> isn’t valid.
>
> But aside from that: I just hope whoever winds up with a driver that you
> decided to write in C++ has the same capability at maintaining it,
changing
> it, and re-working it that you would have.
>
> You see, it’s not really about YOU… it’s about everybody ELSE.
>
> When I write code, I realize that I’m likely not the last person to touch
> it. It’ll be tweaked, prodded, and poked by all sorts of engineers – who
> will range in talent from supremely competent to utter moron.
>
> So, just as I carefully choose what syntax to use to express a concept (to
> ensure utmost clarity for those who come after me), one must do likewise
> when choosing a language.
>
> Peter
> OSR
>
>
>
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