I guess me must revisit the deep philosophical question regarding the
“chicken and the egg”
Jamey
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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Moreira, Alberto
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:06 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: C++ in kernel. was Re: Batch file for Visual Stu
dio build,
C++ is a different language - just saying “superset” is a gross
understatement. What happens is, you merely code C++ member functions
with a
superset of C. But there’s a whole lot more in the language than C-style
member functions. In fact, C if you program in C++ the same way you
program
in C, you deserve what you get ! And C, in the end, is little more than
a
deluxe assembler.
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jamey Kirby [mailto:xxxxx@storagecraft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:56 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: C++ in kernel. was Re: Batch file for Visual Stu
dio build,
Nope!
C++ is a superset of C.
Jamey
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From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Moreira, Alberto
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:23 AM
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Subject: [ntdev] Re: C++ in kernel. was Re: Batch file for Visual Stu
dio build,
C is a small subset of C++, therefore C++ is no further away than C is.
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: subodh gupta [mailto:xxxxx@softhome.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:58 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: C++ in kernel. was Re: Batch file for Visual Studio
build,
Max,
You are very right because writing device drivers is something like
playing
directly with the hardware and to do that one needs a language which is
much
more near to the hardware a simple way to understand it is (though i
dont
know about HDL but i am sure) that after assembly you only have C which
is
more near to hardware instead of C++.Thats why it is needed and exists
even
after 20-25 yrs of invention of ritchy.
–Subodh
----- Original Message -----
From: “Maxim S. Shatskih”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:28 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: C++ in kernel. was Re: Batch file for Visual Studio
build,
> > I bet you a dollar all the anti C++ guys are at least ten years
> older than
> > me an grouchy too. The same guys who are mumbling something about
> only
> > doing assembly code in the old days.
>
> No. I started with C++ and worked with it for years - first UI, then
> COM component development, tightly coupled to SQL databases. There
> were times when I remembered Stroustroup/Ellis book nearly by heart.
>
> After this experience, and then experience with the C kernel mode
> coding, I can tell that C++ is just not so suitable for many tasks,
> including system-level development. It hardens a task with all its
> inheritance etc. instead of simplifying it.
>
> I’m not so old.
>
> Max
>
>
>
>
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