Re: An alternative to visual source safe version 6

Hi all,

Can somebody point in the direction of the website to download a stable
version of CVS for windows 2k

Robert Fernando
Anite Telecoms Ltd
110 Fleet Road
Fleet
Hampshire GU51 4BL
United Kingdom
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Fax: +44 (0) 1252 775 321
Email: xxxxx@anitetelecoms.com

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Office: 100 Longwater Avenue, GreenPark, Reading, Berkshire RG2 6GP,
United Kingdom

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Dispensa [mailto:xxxxx@positivenetworks.net]
Sent: 12 December 2001 18:15
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: An alternative to visual source safe version 6

Although it’s traditionally used more in UNIX development projects, CVS is
worth looking at. Lots of big open-source projects use it, and it seems
to handle large projects well, because it’s just a bunch of old-style
rcs files with a more intelligent front-end, i.e. no database that could
wipe out the whole enchilada. Also, the most recent version of each file
is stored in full, and all prior revs are stored as diffs. That makes it
fast for access to the working revs, while letting it scale efficiently.

It has its drawbacks, of course - it has poor support for binary objects,
in that it has to keep entire copies of each revision in the repository.
Also, it doesn’t integrate with windows source control well. It can also
be tough to learn to use.

On the positive side, it’s pretty self-sufficient once developers are
clued in as to how to use it. It most certainly does not require a team
of admins. Also, there are GUI front-ends for those who don’t like using
the command line clients, and there are tons of add-ons, analysis scripts,
and other resources. Finally, it’s Free.

Another alternative is SourceForge - started out as a website (still is),
but VA Software productized it last year and is pushing it pretty
hard. No experience with it, other than that I’ve coded on
sourceforge.net projects before.

Rounding out the list is Bugzilla - the bug tracking system for
Mozilla.org. It has worked quite well for me in the past. It is written
in Perl and backs up to MySQL (preferred) or Oracle. It’s cross-platform
and entirely web-based. Mozilla just put it’s 100,000th bug in Buzailla,
so it scales pretty well so far.

I’ve used CVS + Bugzilla in combination on a number of projects in the
past, and it has always worked well for me. Both support about any
platform under the sun (important for the cross-platform nature of my
work), and they’re free and easy to set up once you get the hang of it.

More info:
http://www.cvshome.org
http://www.cvsgui.org
http://www.vasoftware.com/sf
http://sourceforge.net

HTH.

-sd

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Fernando, Robert wrote:

Hi all,

what would People recommend instead of visual source safe ?
Currently we use source safe to hold labeled builds of our code which
developers then add there changes to before putting it back into source
safe
with a new label.

We currently have problem that in the last year the database has become
corrupted at least 4 times.
Is there a max size of dB that vs. will support ?

thanks
Robert Fernando
Anite Telecoms Ltd
110 Fleet Road
Fleet
Hampshire GU51 4BL
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1252 775200
Fax: +44 (0) 1252 775 321
Email: xxxxx@anitetelecoms.com

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Cygwin distibution contains it.

http://www.redhat.com/download/cygwin.html

At 05:36 PM 1/29/2002 +0000, you wrote:

Hi all,

Can somebody point in the direction of the website to download a stable
version of CVS for windows 2k

Robert Fernando
Anite Telecoms Ltd
110 Fleet Road
Fleet
Hampshire GU51 4BL
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1252 775200
Fax: +44 (0) 1252 775 321
Email: xxxxx@anitetelecoms.com

Anite Telecoms Limited Registered in England No. 1721900 Registered
Office: 100 Longwater Avenue, GreenPark, Reading, Berkshire RG2 6GP,
United Kingdom

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Dispensa [mailto:xxxxx@positivenetworks.net]
Sent: 12 December 2001 18:15
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: An alternative to visual source safe version 6

Although it’s traditionally used more in UNIX development projects, CVS is
worth looking at. Lots of big open-source projects use it, and it seems
to handle large projects well, because it’s just a bunch of old-style
rcs files with a more intelligent front-end, i.e. no database that could
wipe out the whole enchilada. Also, the most recent version of each file
is stored in full, and all prior revs are stored as diffs. That makes it
fast for access to the working revs, while letting it scale efficiently.

It has its drawbacks, of course - it has poor support for binary objects,
in that it has to keep entire copies of each revision in the repository.
Also, it doesn’t integrate with windows source control well. It can also
be tough to learn to use.

On the positive side, it’s pretty self-sufficient once developers are
clued in as to how to use it. It most certainly does not require a team
of admins. Also, there are GUI front-ends for those who don’t like using
the command line clients, and there are tons of add-ons, analysis scripts,
and other resources. Finally, it’s Free.

Another alternative is SourceForge - started out as a website (still is),
but VA Software productized it last year and is pushing it pretty
hard. No experience with it, other than that I’ve coded on
sourceforge.net projects before.

Rounding out the list is Bugzilla - the bug tracking system for
Mozilla.org. It has worked quite well for me in the past. It is written
in Perl and backs up to MySQL (preferred) or Oracle. It’s cross-platform
and entirely web-based. Mozilla just put it’s 100,000th bug in Buzailla,
so it scales pretty well so far.

I’ve used CVS + Bugzilla in combination on a number of projects in the
past, and it has always worked well for me. Both support about any
platform under the sun (important for the cross-platform nature of my
work), and they’re free and easy to set up once you get the hang of it.

More info:
http://www.cvshome.org
http://www.cvsgui.org
http://www.vasoftware.com/sf
http://sourceforge.net

HTH.

-sd

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Fernando, Robert wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> what would People recommend instead of visual source safe ?
> Currently we use source safe to hold labeled builds of our code which
> developers then add there changes to before putting it back into source
safe
> with a new label.
>
> We currently have problem that in the last year the database has become
> corrupted at least 4 times.
> Is there a max size of dB that vs. will support ?
>
> thanks
> Robert Fernando
> Anite Telecoms Ltd
> 110 Fleet Road
> Fleet
> Hampshire GU51 4BL
> United Kingdom
> Tel: +44 (0) 1252 775200
> Fax: +44 (0) 1252 775 321
> Email: xxxxx@anitetelecoms.com
>
> Anite Telecoms Limited Registered in England No. 1721900 Registered
> Office: 100 Longwater Avenue, GreenPark, Reading, Berkshire RG2 6GP,
> United Kingdom
>
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What!? It wasn’t an Out of Office message!!!

:slight_smile:

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