Re[2]: Process and Thread ID

Re[2]: [ntfsd] Process and Thread ID

we?ve found that this is done for what seems to be security reasons

(one process runs with a restricted token, while the other process runs with the user?s token.)  

Pardon a little off-topic :slight_smile:

It IS a security reason. Not only the spawned process runs with restricted token,

but it also runs on lower integrity level, which basically means it cannot open any

file/registry key for write access (default integrity level for each file/reg key is

“medium”, but the secondary process runs with integrity level “low”.

Also Internet Explorer and Google Chrome uses that technique, and I am sure

that these three mentioned are not the only ones.

L.


Internet Explorer (since 8.0) does it as well. The process starts and it spaws another process that uses a restricted user. The initial process does next to nothing while the restricted process is used to do all the rendering, handle the add-ons etc… That’s a smart way to increase security on a system where the user runs as admin. Look at your process list with process explorer and you will see the obvious differences between the parent IE and its child process.

Ladislav,
I wasn’t trying to imply that security sandboxing doesn’t work (it does) but rather that the Acrobat X use of it seems a bit questionable.
Tony
OSR

I know :slight_smile:

And, since PDF documents are the favorite “platform” for exploits these
days (IIRC over half of exploits in the wild target PDFs), Acrobat’s sandbox is actually a good idea.

L.

It’s really more of an overall Adobe thing than merely a PDF - don’t forget
flash. Between the two, that’s a huge percentage of exploits, not to
mention a huge percentage of all machines out there, of almost every
platform.

The details are to date sketchy and are also unsubstantiated, but at the
moment PDF has been implicated in the RSA hack.

That being said, what I most remarkable is that up until very recently,
Adobe did very close to nothing about these problems, at least publicly, as
best as I can tell, and it’s not at all apparent that their business has
sufferered, though I don’t really find that part surprising.

Mm
On Apr 6, 2011 6:00 PM, wrote:

Did you ever figure out this problem?

Tony
OSR