Plea to all members

I hope all members would understand that there is no need to use an
auto responder for this list. So, please, all using e-mail with auto
responder on this list, could you TRY to use an alternate e-mail? After
I post on NTFSD, I get 5-10 auto replies.
Thanks!


Kind regards, Dejan M. www.alfasp.com
E-mail: xxxxx@alfasp.com ICQ#: 56570367
Alfa File Monitor - File monitoring library for Win32 developers.
Alfa File Protector - File protection and hiding library for Win32
developers.

I join to the plea. Those auto-response messages are annoying.

-htfv

----- Original Message -----
From: “Dejan Maksimovic”
To: “File Systems Developers”
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:16 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] Plea to all members

>
> I hope all members would understand that there is no need to use an
> auto responder for this list. So, please, all using e-mail with auto
> responder on this list, could you TRY to use an alternate e-mail? After
> I post on NTFSD, I get 5-10 auto replies.
> Thanks!
>
> –
> Kind regards, Dejan M. www.alfasp.com
> E-mail: xxxxx@alfasp.com ICQ#: 56570367
> Alfa File Monitor - File monitoring library for Win32 developers.
> Alfa File Protector - File protection and hiding library for Win32
> developers.
>
>
>
>
> —
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@vba.com.by
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%%
>

Maybe this policy should be enforced by “the list slave” himself, or else
noone will care about your feelings Dejan, which are mine as well.

Regards, Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: “Dejan Maksimovic”
To: “File Systems Developers”
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:16 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] Plea to all members

>
> I hope all members would understand that there is no need to use an
> auto responder for this list. So, please, all using e-mail with auto
> responder on this list, could you TRY to use an alternate e-mail? After
> I post on NTFSD, I get 5-10 auto replies.
> Thanks!
>
> –
> Kind regards, Dejan M. www.alfasp.com
> E-mail: xxxxx@alfasp.com ICQ#: 56570367
> Alfa File Monitor - File monitoring library for Win32 developers.
> Alfa File Protector - File protection and hiding library for Win32
> developers.
>
>
>
>
> —
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@rdsor.ro
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%%
>

“Dan Partelly” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
>
> Maybe this policy should be enforced by “the list slave” himself, or else
> noone will care about your feelings Dejan, which are mine as well.
>

We’ve looked into this, and there’s really nothing we can do to “enforce”
this, at least in terms of getting Lyris to easily drop the replies. You’ll
at least note that we don’t get such replies sent to the LIST, which is more
than I can say for SOME lists.

This is an on-going problem for any list. All we can do is ask and hope
people will participate with courtesy and relative intelligence.

Peter
NTFSD / NTDEV List Slave

If people keep sending valid email address to me, I will use them if I go to
a site where I know spam will follow. My email addresses including those I
use in newsgroups and on these lists keep getting spam. Someone is
harvesting email addresses. Probably many someones.

I know you can’t force the members to not use auto-responders, but it would
be nice. The other option is to suspend membership in the list until you
return. You can then use a new reader to catch up or just rejoin. Maybe
Lyris does have a suspend feature, but I have never needed to know.

Peter, I like your pontification this issue. I read it today. Lint does
work, but it takes time to learn. I use CodeWright and you can set it up so
that the output from lint can be used like an error file from the compiler
to permit line by line fixing. You can then also modify the lint control
file as you see things that don’t really matter to us. Bit fields in types
other than int is a problem even the Microsoft compiler will complain about
it the warning level is 4. I hope the reader from Germany will provide you
the support files.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Peter Viscarola”
Newsgroups: ntfsd
To: “File Systems Developers”
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:59 AM
Subject: [ntfsd] Re: Plea to all members

>
> “Dan Partelly” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
> >
> > Maybe this policy should be enforced by “the list slave” himself, or
else
> > noone will care about your feelings Dejan, which are mine as well.
> >
>
> We’ve looked into this, and there’s really nothing we can do to “enforce”
> this, at least in terms of getting Lyris to easily drop the replies.
You’ll
> at least note that we don’t get such replies sent to the LIST, which is
more
> than I can say for SOME lists.
>
> This is an on-going problem for any list. All we can do is ask and hope
> people will participate with courtesy and relative intelligence.
>
> Peter
> NTFSD / NTDEV List Slave
>
>
>
>
> —
> You are currently subscribed to ntfsd as: xxxxx@yoshimuni.com
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%%

“David J. Craig” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
>
> I know you can’t force the members to not use auto-responders, but it
would
> be nice. The other option is to suspend membership in the list until you
> return. You can then use a new reader to catch up or just rejoin. Maybe
> Lyris does have a suspend feature, but I have never needed to know.
>
We have the lists set up so that you get auto-suspended if you bounce mail.
But, again, if your autoresponder replies directly to the sender (and not to
the list) then there’s no way Lyris can know you’re responding. We’ve
considered putting extra characters in the sender’s address before posting,
but that looked like a software development effort (even in Perl).

>
> Peter, I like your pontification this issue. I read it today.
>

Thanks.

> Lint does work, but it takes time to learn.
> I hope the reader from Germany will provide you
> the support files.
>

He already has done, thanks. I’ll write all about it soon…

p

I went to the trouble to look into this issue, atleast from the Outlook
point of
view. Looks like you can setup a rule with the “Out of Office Assistant” to
not
send replies to messages meeting certain criteria. Perhaps that would be a
good
thing for people to do…

-Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Viscarola [mailto:xxxxx@osr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:56 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] Re: Plea to all members

“David J. Craig” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
>
> I know you can’t force the members to not use auto-responders, but it
would
> be nice. The other option is to suspend membership in the list until you
> return. You can then use a new reader to catch up or just rejoin. Maybe
> Lyris does have a suspend feature, but I have never needed to know.
>
We have the lists set up so that you get auto-suspended if you bounce mail.
But, again, if your autoresponder replies directly to the sender (and not to
the list) then there’s no way Lyris can know you’re responding. We’ve
considered putting extra characters in the sender’s address before posting,
but that looked like a software development effort (even in Perl).

>
> Peter, I like your pontification this issue. I read it today.
>

Thanks.

> Lint does work, but it takes time to learn.
> I hope the reader from Germany will provide you
> the support files.
>

He already has done, thanks. I’ll write all about it soon…

p


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These guys should consider what happens if the other person ALSO has a an
auto-responder. Only 10 minutes after the first e-mail both mailboxes would be
full, regardless of the limit:-)

We have the lists set up so that you get auto-suspended if you bounce mail.
But, again, if your autoresponder replies directly to the sender (and not to
the list) then there’s no way Lyris can know you’re responding. We’ve
considered putting extra characters in the sender’s address before posting,
but that looked like a software development effort (even in Perl).


Kind regards, Dejan M. www.alfasp.com
E-mail: xxxxx@alfasp.com ICQ#: 56570367
Alfa File Monitor - File monitoring library for Win32 developers.
Alfa File Protector - File protection and hiding library for Win32 developers.

“Dejan Maksimovic” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntfsd…
>
>
> These guys should consider what happens if the other person ALSO has a
an
> auto-responder. Only 10 minutes after the first e-mail both mailboxes
would be
> full, regardless of the limit:-)

Not true, in my experience. Every auto-responder by which I’ve been
spammed, and I’ve been hit by quite a few, only responds once to a unique
address, or at most, once per arbitrary time-slice (day, hour, week).

Phil

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