Newsreader problems

Does anyone else see problems with this list when viewed through a
newsreader like OutlookExpress now? The titles and actual messages are not
in sync for me, and they seem randomly skewed. For instance, I click on a
topic with title “NP DLL and new Office’s FileOpen dialog” from Maxim and
the message I see is titled “Re: Synchronizing access to a linked list” from
Gary Little. I am subscribed to about 12 newsgroups/lists and this is the
only one which is exhibiting this behavior. Is it just me?


Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
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I have seen this behavior occasionally…

Not today, though.

Thomas F. Divine

“Bill McKenzie” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Does anyone else see problems with this list when viewed through a
> newsreader like OutlookExpress now? The titles and actual messages are
not
> in sync for me, and they seem randomly skewed. For instance, I click on a
> topic with title “NP DLL and new Office’s FileOpen dialog” from Maxim and
> the message I see is titled “Re: Synchronizing access to a linked list”
from
> Gary Little. I am subscribed to about 12 newsgroups/lists and this is the
> only one which is exhibiting this behavior. Is it just me?
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
>
>

I use OE for this list, but… in email mode, not newsgroup one.

Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

----- Original Message -----
From: “Bill McKenzie”
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:24 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Newsreader problems

> Does anyone else see problems with this list when viewed through a
> newsreader like OutlookExpress now? The titles and actual messages are not
> in sync for me, and they seem randomly skewed. For instance, I click on a
> topic with title “NP DLL and new Office’s FileOpen dialog” from Maxim and
> the message I see is titled “Re: Synchronizing access to a linked list” from
> Gary Little. I am subscribed to about 12 newsgroups/lists and this is the
> only one which is exhibiting this behavior. Is it just me?
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@storagecraft.com
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com

At work I use Outlook in mail mode as well. At home, I use Pegasus. I
never tried to access it in newsgroup mode, but I can try. How does one
do it ? I use Agent to read my newsgroups.

Alberto.

On 31 Dec 2003 at 18:52, Maxim S. Shatskih wrote:

I use OE for this list, but… in email mode, not newsgroup one.

Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

----- Original Message -----
From: “Bill McKenzie”
> Newsgroups: ntdev
> To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: [ntdev] Newsreader
> problems
>
>
> > Does anyone else see problems with this list when viewed through a
> > newsreader like OutlookExpress now? The titles and actual messages
> > are not in sync for me, and they seem randomly skewed. For
> > instance, I click on a topic with title “NP DLL and new Office’s
> > FileOpen dialog” from Maxim and the message I see is titled “Re:
> > Synchronizing access to a linked list” from Gary Little. I am
> > subscribed to about 12 newsgroups/lists and this is the only one
> > which is exhibiting this behavior. Is it just me?
> >
> > –
> > Bill McKenzie
> > Compuware Corporation
> > Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer
> > tool: http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@storagecraft.com To
> > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
>
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
>
> You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@ieee.org
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com

Bad news reader. I heard it will be fixed soon to handle multiple news
servers. I use lists.osr.com. You have to use your email address and
password as you normally use when you access your account via the web
browser interface. You then get threaded messages and can change your
view to see older messages in the same thread whenever you want. I also
use my local ISP’s news server and news.Microsoft.com both of which do
not require a password. My ISP only allows access from internal IP
addresses and Microsoft doesn’t restrict access. I get Outlook Express
to update all news groups with one ‘Sync All’ button request. You have
to add that ‘Sync All’ button to the toolbars, but it then works well.
The ‘Send/Receive’ button only does email (all) or the newsgroup you
have currently selected.

wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> At work I use Outlook in mail mode as well. At home, I use Pegasus. I
> never tried to access it in newsgroup mode, but I can try. How does
one
> do it ? I use Agent to read my newsgroups.
>
> Alberto.
>
>
>
> On 31 Dec 2003 at 18:52, Maxim S. Shatskih wrote:
>
> > I use OE for this list, but… in email mode, not newsgroup one.
> >
> > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> > StorageCraft Corporation
> > xxxxx@storagecraft.com
> > http://www.storagecraft.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: “Bill McKenzie”
> > Newsgroups: ntdev
> > To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”

> > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: [ntdev]
Newsreader
> > problems
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone else see problems with this list when viewed through a
> > > newsreader like OutlookExpress now? The titles and actual
messages
> > > are not in sync for me, and they seem randomly skewed. For
> > > instance, I click on a topic with title “NP DLL and new Office’s
> > > FileOpen dialog” from Maxim and the message I see is titled “Re:
> > > Synchronizing access to a linked list” from Gary Little. I am
> > > subscribed to about 12 newsgroups/lists and this is the only one
> > > which is exhibiting this behavior. Is it just me?
> > >
> > > –
> > > Bill McKenzie
> > > Compuware Corporation
> > > Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer
> > > tool: http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > —
> > > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> > >
> > > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@storagecraft.com
To
> > > unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
> >
> >
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
> >
> > You are currently subscribed to ntdev as: xxxxx@ieee.org
> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to xxxxx@lists.osr.com
>
>
>
>

> Does anyone else see problems with this list when viewed through a

newsreader like OutlookExpress now? The titles and actual
messages are not
in sync for me, and they seem randomly skewed. For instance, I click on a
topic with title “NP DLL and new Office’s FileOpen dialog” from Maxim and
the message I see is titled “Re: Synchronizing access to a linked
list” from
Gary Little. I am subscribed to about 12 newsgroups/lists and this is the
only one which is exhibiting this behavior. Is it just me?

I would guess that the reason your client has just started having problems
is due to the fact that the mail daemon used for this mailing list is now
formatting replies as:

Re: [ntdev] Subject

Whereas before they were formatted as:

[ntdev] Re: Subject

The change appears to have started on 12/29 somewhere in the morning. This
is just a guess, but seems likely that it could cause a problem with your
news reader. I personally prefer the original format.

Matt

> Bad news reader. I heard it will be fixed soon to handle multiple news

servers.

For me, OE handles 3 news servers fine off 1 identity. One of them is
password-protected.

The annoying bug is: if it cannot connect to the news server due to
IP-address-level restrictions of the news server - the newsgroups disappear
from the list forever, and are no more available in the overall newsgroup list
of the connection. You need to re-create the account. The annoying bug which
persists for years.

to update all news groups with one ‘Sync All’ button request. You have
to add that ‘Sync All’ button to the toolbars, but it then works well.

Works fine off menu item.

Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
xxxxx@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

Why use a pull down menu for something you may use many times every day?
I like having the toolbar icon. Not that hard to do. I normally only
do an automatic check of email and news groups once an hour. I have
three also, but not all have the same name. Some contain anti-spam
names.

“Maxim S. Shatskih” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> > Bad news reader. I heard it will be fixed soon to handle multiple
news
> > servers.
>
> For me, OE handles 3 news servers fine off 1 identity. One of them is
> password-protected.
>
> The annoying bug is: if it cannot connect to the news server due to
> IP-address-level restrictions of the news server - the newsgroups
disappear
> from the list forever, and are no more available in the overall
newsgroup list
> of the connection. You need to re-create the account. The annoying bug
which
> persists for years.
>
> > to update all news groups with one ‘Sync All’ button request. You
have
> > to add that ‘Sync All’ button to the toolbars, but it then works
well.
>
> Works fine off menu item.
>
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> xxxxx@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
>

“Bill McKenzie” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> Does anyone else see problems with this list when viewed through a
> newsreader like OutlookExpress now? The titles and actual messages are
not
> in sync for me, and they seem randomly skewed. For instance, I click on a
> topic with title “NP DLL and new Office’s FileOpen dialog” from Maxim and
> the message I see is titled “Re: Synchronizing access to a linked list”
from
> Gary Little. I am subscribed to about 12 newsgroups/lists and this is the
> only one which is exhibiting this behavior. Is it just me?

I suspect some event (a one-off, I hope) in the last week or so. I last
synchronized my OE newsreader to this list a couple of days ago, and saw
the behaviour you describe. The windbg list also showed a few hundred
“new” messages going back at least a year. Today everything seems fine.

“J. J. Farrell” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
> I suspect some event (a one-off, I hope) in the last week or so.
>

Hmmm… It might have something to do with the upgrade SNoone did to Lyris
last week.

OSR has been closed for holidays between 19 Dec and 5 Jan. As noted on OSR
Online, we’ve been doing network infrastructure and other upgrades during
that time.

Sorry for any inconvenience. Please be sure to let us know if these
problems recur…

Peter
List Slave Emeritus

Is there any better newsreader other than OE?

“Bill McKenzie” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@ntdev…
> Does anyone else see problems with this list when viewed through a
> newsreader like OutlookExpress now? The titles and actual messages are
not
> in sync for me, and they seem randomly skewed. For instance, I click on a
> topic with title “NP DLL and new Office’s FileOpen dialog” from Maxim and
> the message I see is titled “Re: Synchronizing access to a linked list”
from
> Gary Little. I am subscribed to about 12 newsgroups/lists and this is the
> only one which is exhibiting this behavior. Is it just me?
>
> –
> Bill McKenzie
> Compuware Corporation
> Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
> http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>
>
>
>

You bet! Thunderbird by Mozilla (www.mozilla.org) - a modern, integrated
news&mail client with advanced junk-mail filtering. It’s only drawback
is that it’s still in pre-release and is a champion memory hog, but I
haven’t found any program yet that can do half of what it does in one
package.

Ming wrote:

Is there any better newsreader other than OE?

“Bill McKenzie” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@ntdev…
>
>>Does anyone else see problems with this list when viewed through a
>>newsreader like OutlookExpress now? The titles and actual messages are
>
> not
>
>>in sync for me, and they seem randomly skewed. For instance, I click on a
>>topic with title “NP DLL and new Office’s FileOpen dialog” from Maxim and
>>the message I see is titled “Re: Synchronizing access to a linked list”
>
> from
>
>>Gary Little. I am subscribed to about 12 newsgroups/lists and this is the
>>only one which is exhibiting this behavior. Is it just me?
>>
>>–
>>Bill McKenzie
>>Compuware Corporation
>>Watch your IRPs/IRBs/URBs/SRBs/NDIS pkts with our free WDMSniffer tool:
>>http://frontline.compuware.com/nashua/patches/utility.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


Nick Ryan
(Microsoft Windows MVP for DDK)