Hi everyone,
I’ve tried to monitor debug messages with Debug Monitor tool provided by osr.com. It wants dbgsys driver and doesn’t want anything to do… Where can I get this driver? 
/regards/
You shouldn’t need to get this driver from anywhere. What version of NT,
what error does it give exactly and are you running as administrator?
-scott
Scott Noone
Software Engineer
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Sloven [mailto:xxxxx@amurshipyard.ru]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:40 AM
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Subject: [ntdev] Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
Hi everyone,
I’ve tried to monitor debug messages with Debug Monitor tool provided by
osr.com. It wants dbgsys driver and doesn’t want anything to do… Where can
I get this driver?
/regards/
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> You shouldn’t need to get this driver from anywhere. What version of NT,
what error does it give exactly and are you running as administrator?
Win2ksp3, It gives no error as I start the utility (I start it in ‘local
mode’), but gathers no DebugPrint messages (maybe I’m wrong about purpose of
this tool). When go to File->New It gives me a message boxes with ‘Unable to
load and start DBGSYS driver’ and ‘Opening DBGSYS.SYS :Error 0’. I’m running
under account located in ‘Administrators’ group, but it’s not builtin
Administrator account.
/regards/
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com
“Andrew Sloven” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
Hi everyone,
I’ve tried to monitor debug messages with Debug Monitor tool provided by osr.com. It wants dbgsys driver and doesn’t want anything to do… Where can I get this driver?
/regards/
Could you please explain the conecpt, ‘Driver embedded in the
application’…?
-Sanesh
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Cariddi [mailto:xxxxx@osr.com]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:55 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error
saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run
it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If
you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com http:
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Hi everyone,
I’ve tried to monitor debug messages with Debug Monitor tool provided by
osr.com. It wants dbgsys driver and doesn’t want anything to do… Where can
I get this driver?
/regards/
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That’s the point. I run it from the local drive. And the problem persists… When I just run it, It gives no errors nor any output. When I press ‘New’ button, I gives errors that I posted earlier.
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From: Mark Cariddi
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers Interest List
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com
Well I’ve tried dbgmon on server installation and it works fine. I’ll try to experiment further and if problem will persists I’ll let you know.
/regards/
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From: Andrew Sloven
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Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:11 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
That’s the point. I run it from the local drive. And the problem persists… When I just run it, It gives no errors nor any output. When I press ‘New’ button, I gives errors that I posted earlier.
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From: Mark Cariddi
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com
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There is a kernel mode driver that this application uses which is contained as a resource in the application image. When the application runs, it extracts the resource to a temporary file. When the temporary file is created, the driver is registered and started, then the temporary file is deleted.
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com
“Sanesh Kumar k - CTD, Chennai.” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
Could you please explain the conecpt, ‘Driver embedded in the application’…?
-Sanesh
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Cariddi [mailto:xxxxx@osr.com]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:55 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com
“Andrew Sloven” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
Hi everyone,
I’ve tried to monitor debug messages with Debug Monitor tool provided by osr.com. It wants dbgsys driver and doesn’t want anything to do… Where can I get this driver?
/regards/
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Hi,
I am out of the office right now, so I can’t look into the problem. However, another engineer at OSR, is looking into it and some other problems and he’ll figure out what is happening. I’ll have him get back to you ASAP.
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com
“Andrew Sloven” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
That’s the point. I run it from the local drive. And the problem persists… When I just run it, It gives no errors nor any output. When I press ‘New’ button, I gives errors that I posted earlier.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers Interest List
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com
I would have him check to see if he has create and write access to the location where the executable is located. He also needs administrator group access to start the driver.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers Interest List
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:48 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
Hi,
I am out of the office right now, so I can’t look into the problem. However, another engineer at OSR, is looking into it and some other problems and he’ll figure out what is happening. I’ll have him get back to you ASAP.
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com
“Andrew Sloven” wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev…
That’s the point. I run it from the local drive. And the problem persists… When I just run it, It gives no errors nor any output. When I press ‘New’ button, I gives errors that I posted earlier.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers Interest List
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com
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One needs “SeLoadDriver” privilege to load a device driver, which can be
assigned independent of “administrator group”. In fact, one can GUT the
“Admin” group by removing all of its privileges (there are models of
securing systems that encourage this, to complicate the lives of people
trying to compromise systems.) Further, HAVING the privilege is not
sufficient, it must be enabled, which is another way to trip na?ve
applications up.
But I agree that ensuring he has appropriate access to the exe directory
makes sense.
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com http:
-----Original Message-----
From: David J. Craig [mailto:xxxxx@yoshimuni.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:23 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
I would have him check to see if he has create and write access to the
location where the executable is located. He also needs administrator group
access to start the driver.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi mailto:xxxxx
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers mailto:xxxxx Interest List
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:48 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
Hi,
I am out of the office right now, so I can’t look into the problem.
However, another engineer at OSR, is looking into it and some other problems
and he’ll figure out what is happening. I’ll have him get back to you
ASAP.
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com http:
“Andrew Sloven” mailto:xxxxx > wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev
news:xxxxx …
That’s the point. I run it from the local drive. And the problem persists…
When I just run it, It gives no errors nor any output. When I press ‘New’
button, I gives errors that I posted earlier.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi mailto:xxxxx
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers mailto:xxxxx Interest List
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error
saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run
it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If
you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com http:
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This is not obvious though… There can be many problems that don’t let the
application to run. I think that user at least should be notified regarding
these errors…
/regards/
----- Original Message -----
From: “Tony Mason”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
One needs “SeLoadDriver” privilege to load a device driver, which can be
assigned independent of “administrator group”. In fact, one can GUT the
“Admin” group by removing all of its privileges (there are models of
securing systems that encourage this, to complicate the lives of people
trying to compromise systems.) Further, HAVING the privilege is not
sufficient, it must be enabled, which is another way to trip naïve
applications up.
But I agree that ensuring he has appropriate access to the exe directory
makes sense.
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com http:
-----Original Message-----
From: David J. Craig [mailto:xxxxx@yoshimuni.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:23 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
I would have him check to see if he has create and write access to the
location where the executable is located. He also needs administrator group
access to start the driver.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi mailto:xxxxx
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers mailto:xxxxx Interest List
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:48 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
Hi,
I am out of the office right now, so I can’t look into the problem.
However, another engineer at OSR, is looking into it and some other problems
and he’ll figure out what is happening. I’ll have him get back to you
ASAP.
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com http:
“Andrew Sloven” mailto:xxxxx > wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev
news:xxxxx …
That’s the point. I run it from the local drive. And the problem persists…
When I just run it, It gives no errors nor any output. When I press ‘New’
button, I gives errors that I posted earlier.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi mailto:xxxxx
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers mailto:xxxxx Interest List
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error
saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run
it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If
you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com http:
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Absolutely. In the best of all possible worlds the documentation would
describe all possible error conditions and how to rectify them. The reality
is that such documentation would be vast - you’d need a terabyte disk array
to keep track of it all.
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Sloven [mailto:xxxxx@amurshipyard.ru]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:51 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
This is not obvious though… There can be many problems that don’t let the
application to run. I think that user at least should be notified regarding
these errors…
/regards/
----- Original Message -----
From: “Tony Mason”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
One needs “SeLoadDriver” privilege to load a device driver, which can be
assigned independent of “administrator group”. In fact, one can GUT the
“Admin” group by removing all of its privileges (there are models of
securing systems that encourage this, to complicate the lives of people
trying to compromise systems.) Further, HAVING the privilege is not
sufficient, it must be enabled, which is another way to trip na?ve
applications up.
But I agree that ensuring he has appropriate access to the exe directory
makes sense.
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com http:
-----Original Message-----
From: David J. Craig [mailto:xxxxx@yoshimuni.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:23 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
I would have him check to see if he has create and write access to the
location where the executable is located. He also needs administrator group
access to start the driver.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi mailto:xxxxx
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers mailto:xxxxx Interest List
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:48 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
Hi,
I am out of the office right now, so I can’t look into the problem.
However, another engineer at OSR, is looking into it and some other problems
and he’ll figure out what is happening. I’ll have him get back to you
ASAP.
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com http:
“Andrew Sloven” mailto:xxxxx > wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev
news:xxxxx …
That’s the point. I run it from the local drive. And the problem persists…
When I just run it, It gives no errors nor any output. When I press ‘New’
button, I gives errors that I posted earlier.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi mailto:xxxxx
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers mailto:xxxxx Interest List
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error
saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run
it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If
you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com http:
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Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.But I agree that ensuring he has appropriate access to the exe directory
makes sense.
Maybe it isn’t the best idea to extract driver to exe directory which can be
RO or network. What about TEMP directory? (GetTempPath)
Best regards,
Michal Vodicka
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[michal.vodicka@st.com, http:://www.st.com]
Sounds slightly maximalistic
----- Original Message -----
From: “Tony Mason”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
Absolutely. In the best of all possible worlds the documentation would
describe all possible error conditions and how to rectify them. The reality
is that such documentation would be vast - you’d need a terabyte disk array
to keep track of it all.
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Sloven [mailto:xxxxx@amurshipyard.ru]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:51 PM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
This is not obvious though… There can be many problems that don’t let the
application to run. I think that user at least should be notified regarding
these errors…
/regards/
----- Original Message -----
From: “Tony Mason”
To: “NT Developers Interest List”
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
One needs “SeLoadDriver” privilege to load a device driver, which can be
assigned independent of “administrator group”. In fact, one can GUT the
“Admin” group by removing all of its privileges (there are models of
securing systems that encourage this, to complicate the lives of people
trying to compromise systems.) Further, HAVING the privilege is not
sufficient, it must be enabled, which is another way to trip naïve
applications up.
But I agree that ensuring he has appropriate access to the exe directory
makes sense.
Regards,
Tony
Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com http:
-----Original Message-----
From: David J. Craig [mailto:xxxxx@yoshimuni.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:23 AM
To: NT Developers Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
I would have him check to see if he has create and write access to the
location where the executable is located. He also needs administrator group
access to start the driver.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi mailto:xxxxx
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers mailto:xxxxx Interest List
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:48 AM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
Hi,
I am out of the office right now, so I can’t look into the problem.
However, another engineer at OSR, is looking into it and some other problems
and he’ll figure out what is happening. I’ll have him get back to you
ASAP.
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com http:
“Andrew Sloven” mailto:xxxxx > wrote in message news:xxxxx@ntdev
news:xxxxx …
That’s the point. I run it from the local drive. And the problem persists…
When I just run it, It gives no errors nor any output. When I press ‘New’
button, I gives errors that I posted earlier.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cariddi mailto:xxxxx
Newsgroups: ntdev
To: NT Developers mailto:xxxxx Interest List
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Missing dbgsys.sys in Debug monitor.
The driver is embedded in the application. Usually, when you get an error
saying the driver cannot be found, it is because the user is trying to run
it from a network drive. debugmon must run from the local disk. If
you problem persists, let me know…
–Mark Cariddi
www.osr.com http:
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