Latest debugger release is still a pre-release?

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I just downloaded the 6.7.5.1 debugger package and in the installation I
noted that it has a “pre-release license agreement.” Is the 6.7.5.1
considered to be an unsupported pre-release version? Should I conclude
from this that it isn’t release quality and that I should stick with the
older 6.6.7.5 release I’ve been using for the past year?

Tony

Tony Mason

Consulting Partner

OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.

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On a related topic there was an earlier 6.7.5.0 that is not listed on the
WinDBG page at all anymore. What changed from 6.7.5.0 to 6.7.5.1?

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Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
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“Tony Mason” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
I just downloaded the 6.7.5.1 debugger package and in the installation I
noted that it has a “pre-release license agreement.” Is the 6.7.5.1
considered to be an unsupported pre-release version? Should I conclude
from this that it isn’t release quality and that I should stick with the
older 6.6.7.5 release I’ve been using for the past year?

Tony

Tony Mason

Consulting Partner

OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.

http://www.osr.com http:</http:>

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“Don Burn” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
> On a related topic there was an earlier 6.7.5.0 that is not listed on the
> WinDBG page at all anymore. What changed from 6.7.5.0 to 6.7.5.1?

Even more annoying is that 6.7.5.0 is not on the “What’s New” page, and
there is no difference in the “What’s New” for 6.7.5.0 and that for 6.7.5.1
(I did a DIFF). That’s not very helpful…

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Is this an opportunity to complain to MS about the quality of the DDK
(including WDF) releases?

I was recently asked to review someone else’s work on a driver I started,
but needed the latest DDK. After some time searching the morass of downloads
on MS site I gave up due to lack of time and was not able to review the
code.

As the world’s leading OS, how about a high quality of support for driver
development? Quick, easy access to latest DDK with overview and detailed
revision histories, quickly searchable accurate documentation etc.

If we continue with this system of trying to deduce function parameters from
(a) other people’s code, (b) non working examples, (c) what someone in Asia
once tried, (d) the “average” and “sum” of several conflicting partial
documents, we will never emerge into a driver safe world, and the BSOD will
be one day etched on the corporate tombstone of MS (…and every corporation
in the past has eventually fallen).

In my experience quality issues like this are top down, and stem from a
basic failure in top management. Maybe that’s what the beckoning yacht does
for you.

BTW, Just noticed this is a rant:- No! It is a reasoned overview by someone
who has has to dabble in drivers from time to time but the rest of the time
can just shake his head in sorrow at the situation…

BTW2: I pay for MSDN, why?

M

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I don’t know the answer to either, except to say that I believe that the
connection issue I found in 6.7.5.0 on day one of it’s release (halted
target but wouldn’t break in with -b) was officially deemed a bug; maybe
this is why it was pulled.

mm

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On a related topic there was an earlier 6.7.5.0 that is not listed on
the
WinDBG page at all anymore. What changed from 6.7.5.0 to 6.7.5.1?

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Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
Website: http://www.windrvr.com
Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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“Tony Mason” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
I just downloaded the 6.7.5.1 debugger package and in the installation I
noted that it has a “pre-release license agreement.” Is the 6.7.5.1
considered to be an unsupported pre-release version? Should I conclude
from this that it isn’t release quality and that I should stick with the
older 6.6.7.5 release I’ve been using for the past year?

Tony

Tony Mason

Consulting Partner

OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.

http://www.osr.com http:</http:>

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6.7.5.0 was released on 26th april i read the announcement here

http://www.osronline.com/showThread.cfm?link=108600

(i installed it on Saturday, April 28, 2007, 9:45:14 PM)

after that i read one post where some one from ms stated that they
have rereleased it but i havent bothered to redownload it

http://www.osronline.com/showThread.cfm?link=108817

probably bug fixes like mm states and like in thread above

but no news of whats changed and my installation didnt bork till now so i
didnt bother to check

sure some heads up would be good

raj

On 7/9/07, Martin O’Brien wrote:
> I don’t know the answer to either, except to say that I believe that the
> connection issue I found in 6.7.5.0 on day one of it’s release (halted
> target but wouldn’t break in with -b) was officially deemed a bug; maybe
> this is why it was pulled.
>
> mm
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> On a related topic there was an earlier 6.7.5.0 that is not listed on
> the
> WinDBG page at all anymore. What changed from 6.7.5.0 to 6.7.5.1?
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> noted that it has a “pre-release license agreement.” Is the 6.7.5.1
> considered to be an unsupported pre-release version? Should I conclude
> from this that it isn’t release quality and that I should stick with the
> older 6.6.7.5 release I’ve been using for the past year?
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