Hi,
i have two computers on a lan . one of them the laptop is accessing the lan
through wireless card and the desktop is accessing it through a cable.
can i kernel debug on these two computers without any explicit 1394 or
COM port cable connections.
kutty
That depends on what you are debugging. Kernel debug requires either a
serial or a 1394 connection.
–
Gary G. Little
Seagate Technologies, LLC
“Kutty Banerjee” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
> Hi,
> i have two computers on a lan . one of them the laptop is accessing the
lan
> through wireless card and the desktop is accessing it through a cable.
> can i kernel debug on these two computers without any explicit 1394
or
> COM port cable connections.
>
> kutty
>
>
>
“Gary G. Little” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
> That depends on what you are debugging. Kernel debug requires either a
> serial or a 1394 connection.
>
> –
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> “Kutty Banerjee” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
> > Hi,
> > i have two computers on a lan . one of them the laptop is accessing the
> lan
> > through wireless card and the desktop is accessing it through a cable.
> > can i kernel debug on these two computers without any explicit 1394
> or
> > COM port cable connections.
> >
> > kutty
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Hi,
can i use a modem to connect to the target computer?
kutty
Well, yes and no. I have successfully used digiboard serial port
servers, usb serial port adapters, and ttl eliminators to connect to the
machines being debugged. As long as the target machine doesn’t need to
initiate the modem connection, this might work, but I’d be a little
concerned about the flow control issues. YMMV, I haven’t ried using a
modem in the loop.
But this would be a brutal slow way to debug (even if you managed to get
a 56k connection). You want the fastest possible connection between you
and the debug target machine; there can be a lot of data flowing across
the connection…
…dave
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Subject: Re:[windbg] kernel mode debug without 1394/com?
“Gary G. Little” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
> That depends on what you are debugging. Kernel debug requires either a
> serial or a 1394 connection.
>
> –
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> “Kutty Banerjee” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
> > Hi,
> > i have two computers on a lan . one of them the laptop is accessing
> > the
> lan
> > through wireless card and the desktop is accessing it through a
cable.
> > can i kernel debug on these two computers without any explicit
> > 1394
> or
> > COM port cable connections.
> >
> > kutty
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Hi,
can i use a modem to connect to the target computer?
kutty
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On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 11:47, Kutty Banerjee wrote:
“Gary G. Little” wrote in message
> news:xxxxx@windbg…
> > That depends on what you are debugging. Kernel debug requires either a
> > serial or a 1394 connection.
> can i use a modem to connect to the target computer?
The easiest way to make that work is to use an external modem connected
to a serial cable. Internal modems will have varying levels of success,
as many of them (most? all?) are winmodems now days.
Go get an external USR modem, like the router guys use.
-sd
“Dave Beaver” wrote in message news:xxxxx@windbg…
Well, yes and no. I have successfully used digiboard serial port
servers, usb serial port adapters, and ttl eliminators to connect to the
machines being debugged. As long as the target machine doesn’t need to
initiate the modem connection, this might work, but I’d be a little
concerned about the flow control issues. YMMV, I haven’t ried using a
modem in the loop.
But this would be a brutal slow way to debug (even if you managed to get
a 56k connection). You want the fastest possible connection between you
and the debug target machine; there can be a lot of data flowing across
the connection…
…dave
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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Kutty Banerjee
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:48 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] kernel mode debug without 1394/com?
“Gary G. Little” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
> That depends on what you are debugging. Kernel debug requires either a
> serial or a 1394 connection.
>
> –
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> “Kutty Banerjee” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
> > Hi,
> > i have two computers on a lan . one of them the laptop is accessing
> > the
> lan
> > through wireless card and the desktop is accessing it through a
cable.
> > can i kernel debug on these two computers without any explicit
> > 1394
> or
> > COM port cable connections.
> >
> > kutty
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Hi,
can i use a modem to connect to the target computer?
kutty
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Hi dave,
can you please give me a link or a head start on how to debug using usb
connections. coz after using puter to puter usb cable bw two comps what d i
tell kd or windbg (since the options only include com, 1394, local).
kutty
There is no USB support for debugging yet, AFAIK, although I believe
I’ve seen some statement somewhere (this list? WinHEC - yeah, that’s it
something about a USB 2.0 debug beta test) that it’s planned for the
future. The method I was talking about was using a (4-port)
usb-to-serial adapter on the debug machine to talk to the serial port on
the target machine.
For me, doing work on cluster file systems, running on very noisy
hardware you don’t want to be anywhere near, this works very well. I can
use terminal server or TCP remote debugging to the machine with the
USB/serial adapters on it, and I can STAY OUT OF THE MACHINE ROOM (sorry
for the shout, but you’d be half-deaf too if you spent any time next to
the noisy storage array and blade servers with 90 dB fans…)
…dave
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Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:23 PM
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Subject: Re:[windbg] kernel mode debug without 1394/com?
“Dave Beaver” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
Well, yes and no. I have successfully used digiboard serial port
servers, usb serial port adapters, and ttl eliminators to connect to the
machines being debugged. As long as the target machine doesn’t need to
initiate the modem connection, this might work, but I’d be a little
concerned about the flow control issues. YMMV, I haven’t ried using a
modem in the loop.
But this would be a brutal slow way to debug (even if you managed to get
a 56k connection). You want the fastest possible connection between you
and the debug target machine; there can be a lot of data flowing across
the connection…
…dave
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx@lists.osr.com
[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Kutty Banerjee
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:48 AM
To: Kernel Debugging Interest List
Subject: Re:[windbg] kernel mode debug without 1394/com?
“Gary G. Little” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
> That depends on what you are debugging. Kernel debug requires either a
> serial or a 1394 connection.
>
> –
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> “Kutty Banerjee” wrote in message
news:xxxxx@windbg…
> > Hi,
> > i have two computers on a lan . one of them the laptop is accessing
> > the
> lan
> > through wireless card and the desktop is accessing it through a
cable.
> > can i kernel debug on these two computers without any explicit
> > 1394
> or
> > COM port cable connections.
> >
> > kutty
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Hi,
can i use a modem to connect to the target computer?
kutty
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dave, can you please give me a link or a head start on how to debug
using usb connections. coz after using puter to puter usb cable bw two
comps what d i tell kd or windbg (since the options only include com,
1394, local).
kutty
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Kutty Banerjee wrote:
can i use a modem to connect to the target computer?
Yes. Search for “modem” in the current “Debugging Tools for Windows”
help file. One of the topics found will be “Choosing Kernel Debugging
Settings”. It states:
Before you can begin kernel debugging, you must choose your connection
settings.
The debuggers support four different kinds of kernel debugging:
* Target computer and host computer connected through the COM ports
* Target computer and host computer connected by a 1394 cable
* Target computer and host computer communicating through a modem
* Local kernel debugging on a single computer
It then goes on to tell you exactly how to do it.
(Dislaimer: I’ve never actually tried this. I bet it’s almost unusably
slow.)
KM