IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Hi All,

We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model and hp
also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).

Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …

We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And it
should be MS 64bit OS compatible …

Thanx in adv
prokash

I am not sure using it in Intel lab is your option. If you want to save $
you must be local to whereever the lab is.

Has anyone tired of the Dell dude guy. My view is don’t buy anything from
Dell, even if it is a little bit cheaper. Dell contributes nothing to
computer industry. Since when anyone see any technology developed from Dell
that benefited the industry in general? Dell is no more than leaches and
take advantage of others R&D and innovations. I would rather buy from HP
since at least it has R&D lab that is contributing (the very IA64 EPIC
itself and so many other things) and will continue to contribute to the
industry.

I don’t hold a single share of either HP or Dell.

Bi

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From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@zonelabs.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Hi All,

We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model and hp
also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).

Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …

We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And it
should be MS 64bit OS compatible …

Thanx in adv
prokash

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Thanx Bi,

My google search showed up HP, Dell, and Silicon Graphics. Also it would be
an ongoing effort, so we are not really looking for intel lab…

I was thinking if there are some who does cloans, just like ia32 PCs, also I
am not sure if there is MotherBoard available, so that we can build it if
needed.

Yes you are right about HP, since they are active participant of this
architecture…

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Bi Chen [mailto:xxxxx@AppStream.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:14 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I am not sure using it in Intel lab is your option. If you want to save $
you must be local to whereever the lab is.

Has anyone tired of the Dell dude guy. My view is don’t buy anything from
Dell, even if it is a little bit cheaper. Dell contributes nothing to
computer industry. Since when anyone see any technology developed from Dell
that benefited the industry in general? Dell is no more than leaches and
take advantage of others R&D and innovations. I would rather buy from HP
since at least it has R&D lab that is contributing (the very IA64 EPIC
itself and so many other things) and will continue to contribute to the
industry.

I don’t hold a single share of either HP or Dell.

Bi

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From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@zonelabs.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
Hi All,

We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model and hp
also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).

Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …

We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And it
should be MS 64bit OS compatible …

Thanx in adv
prokash

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I don’t think you will find a new machine in your price range,
if my memory serves me correctly Intel is charging close to
that for the chip.

Don Burn
Egenera, Inc
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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Thanx Bi,

My google search showed up HP, Dell, and Silicon Graphics. Also it would be an ongoing effort, so we are not really looking for intel lab…

I was thinking if there are some who does cloans, just like ia32 PCs, also I am not sure if there is MotherBoard available, so that we can build it if needed.

Yes you are right about HP, since they are active participant of this architecture…

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Bi Chen [mailto:xxxxx@AppStream.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:14 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I am not sure using it in Intel lab is your option. If you want to save $ you must be local to whereever the lab is.

Has anyone tired of the Dell dude guy. My view is don’t buy anything from Dell, even if it is a little bit cheaper. Dell contributes nothing to computer industry. Since when anyone see any technology developed from Dell that benefited the industry in general? Dell is no more than leaches and take advantage of others R&D and innovations. I would rather buy from HP since at least it has R&D lab that is contributing (the very IA64 EPIC itself and so many other things) and will continue to contribute to the industry.

I don’t hold a single share of either HP or Dell.

Bi

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From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@zonelabs.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Hi All,

We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model and hp also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).

Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …

We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And it should be MS 64bit OS compatible …

Thanx in adv

prokash


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I think you are too negative on Dell. They may not have an R&D lab (then again, they might), but they do invest in companies that are developing software and hardware products. /TomH
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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:14 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I am not sure using it in Intel lab is your option. If you want to save $ you must be local to whereever the lab is.

Has anyone tired of the Dell dude guy. My view is don’t buy anything from Dell, even if it is a little bit cheaper. Dell contributes nothing to computer industry. Since when anyone see any technology developed from Dell that benefited the industry in general? Dell is no more than leaches and take advantage of others R&D and innovations. I would rather buy from HP since at least it has R&D lab that is contributing (the very IA64 EPIC itself and so many other things) and will continue to contribute to the industry.

I don’t hold a single share of either HP or Dell.

Bi

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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Hi All,

We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model and hp also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).

Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …

We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And it should be MS 64bit OS compatible …

Thanx in adv
prokash

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I just threw in some numbers, I don’t see much options I have !

-prokash

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From: Don Burn [mailto:xxxxx@acm.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:07 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I don’t think you will find a new machine in your price range,
if my memory serves me correctly Intel is charging close to
that for the chip.

Don Burn
Egenera, Inc
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To: File Systems mailto:xxxxx Developers
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Thanx Bi,

My google search showed up HP, Dell, and Silicon Graphics. Also it would be
an ongoing effort, so we are not really looking for intel lab…

I was thinking if there are some who does cloans, just like ia32 PCs, also I
am not sure if there is MotherBoard available, so that we can build it if
needed.

Yes you are right about HP, since they are active participant of this
architecture…

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Bi Chen [mailto:xxxxx@AppStream.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:14 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I am not sure using it in Intel lab is your option. If you want to save $
you must be local to whereever the lab is.

Has anyone tired of the Dell dude guy. My view is don’t buy anything from
Dell, even if it is a little bit cheaper. Dell contributes nothing to
computer industry. Since when anyone see any technology developed from Dell
that benefited the industry in general? Dell is no more than leaches and
take advantage of others R&D and innovations. I would rather buy from HP
since at least it has R&D lab that is contributing (the very IA64 EPIC
itself and so many other things) and will continue to contribute to the
industry.

I don’t hold a single share of either HP or Dell.

Bi

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From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@zonelabs.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
Hi All,

We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model and hp
also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).

Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …

We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And it
should be MS 64bit OS compatible …

Thanx in adv
prokash

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Before investing that kind of cash I’d play wait-on-see. It’s looking to
me like IA64 is not going to make it in the marketplace. My bet is that
the market will coalesce around AMD’s 64-bit x86 compatible line and
Intel will be forced to match it with its not-so-secret Yamhill ‘Plan B’
chip. It would certainly make our lives as driver developers that much
easier. But who asked me…

  • Nicholas Ryan

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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:37 AM
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Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I just threw in some numbers, I don’t see much options I have !

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Burn [mailto:xxxxx@acm.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:07 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I don’t think you will find a new machine in your price range,
if my memory serves me correctly Intel is charging close to
that for the chip.

Don Burn
Egenera, Inc
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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Thanx Bi,

My google search showed up HP, Dell, and Silicon Graphics. Also it would
be an ongoing effort, so we are not really looking for intel lab…

I was thinking if there are some who does cloans, just like ia32 PCs,
also I am not sure if there is MotherBoard available, so that we can
build it if needed.

Yes you are right about HP, since they are active participant of this
architecture…

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Bi Chen [mailto:xxxxx@AppStream.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:14 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I am not sure using it in Intel lab is your option. If you want to save
$ you must be local to whereever the lab is.

Has anyone tired of the Dell dude guy. My view is don’t buy anything
from Dell, even if it is a little bit cheaper. Dell contributes nothing
to computer industry. Since when anyone see any technology developed
from Dell that benefited the industry in general? Dell is no more than
leaches and take advantage of others R&D and innovations. I would rather
buy from HP since at least it has R&D lab that is contributing (the very
IA64 EPIC itself and so many other things) and will continue to
contribute to the industry.

I don’t hold a single share of either HP or Dell.

Bi

-----Original Message-----
From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@zonelabs.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
Hi All,

We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model
and hp also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).

Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …

We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And
it should be MS 64bit OS compatible …

Thanx in adv
prokash

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Last night I was searching and found (opi*, cant remember the spelling)
chips, and found that they are available during the 1st Qtr onward next
year.

I think we need to wait a bit to see what is catching up…

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:29 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Before investing that kind of cash I’d play wait-on-see. It’s looking to me
like IA64 is not going to make it in the marketplace. My bet is that the
market will coalesce around AMD’s 64-bit x86 compatible line and Intel will
be forced to match it with its not-so-secret Yamhill ‘Plan B’ chip. It would
certainly make our lives as driver developers that much easier. But who
asked me…

  • Nicholas Ryan

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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:37 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
I just threw in some numbers, I don’t see much options I have !

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Burn [mailto:xxxxx@acm.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:07 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I don’t think you will find a new machine in your price range,
if my memory serves me correctly Intel is charging close to
that for the chip.

Don Burn
Egenera, Inc
----- Original Message -----
From: Prokash Sinha mailto:xxxxx
To: File Systems mailto:xxxxx Developers
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Thanx Bi,

My google search showed up HP, Dell, and Silicon Graphics. Also it would be
an ongoing effort, so we are not really looking for intel lab…

I was thinking if there are some who does cloans, just like ia32 PCs, also I
am not sure if there is MotherBoard available, so that we can build it if
needed.

Yes you are right about HP, since they are active participant of this
architecture…

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Bi Chen [mailto:xxxxx@AppStream.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:14 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I am not sure using it in Intel lab is your option. If you want to save $
you must be local to whereever the lab is.

Has anyone tired of the Dell dude guy. My view is don’t buy anything from
Dell, even if it is a little bit cheaper. Dell contributes nothing to
computer industry. Since when anyone see any technology developed from Dell
that benefited the industry in general? Dell is no more than leaches and
take advantage of others R&D and innovations. I would rather buy from HP
since at least it has R&D lab that is contributing (the very IA64 EPIC
itself and so many other things) and will continue to contribute to the
industry.

I don’t hold a single share of either HP or Dell.

Bi

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From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@zonelabs.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
Hi All,

We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model and hp
also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).

Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …

We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And it
should be MS 64bit OS compatible …

Thanx in adv
prokash

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Admittedly I haven’t done it with any “down and dirty” drivers, but I have
tested quite a number of drivers on IA64. All but one compiled first time
and worked as expected. The exception only needed a small edit.

I’d hand that as a testament to the MS DDK guys in spending all that time
over the last few years ensuring such a compatible environment. Unless you
need to touch native assembler, it shouldn’t matter what the target
environment is, the DDK just builds it.

Right now, all my sources, kernel and user mode are truly single source for
32 and 64 bit platforms. I expect that if the next Platform SDK or DDK
includes an AMD64 build environment that I will still compile and run first
time out.

Of course there will be exceptions, but right now the only time I need
wonder what kind of chip is underneath me is in the install code so I pick
the right binaries.

Mark.

At 11:29 22/10/2002 -0700, Nicholas Ryan wrote:

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“urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word” xmlns:st1 =
“urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags”>
Before investing that kind of cash I’d play wait-on-see. It’s looking to
me like IA64 is not going to make it in the marketplace. My bet is that
the market will coalesce around AMD’s 64-bit x86 compatible line and Intel
will be forced to match it with its not-so-secret Yamhill ‘Plan B’ chip.
It would certainly make our lives as driver developers that much easier.
But who asked me…

  • Nicholas Ryan

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com] On Behalf Of Prokash Sinha
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:37 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I just threw in some numbers, I don’t see much options I have !

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Burn [mailto:xxxxx@acm.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:07 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I don’t think you will find a new machine in your price range,
if my memory serves me correctly Intel is charging close to
that for the chip.

Don Burn
Egenera, Inc
----- Original Message -----
From: mailto:xxxxxProkash Sinha
>To: mailto:xxxxxFile Systems Developers
>Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:26 PM
>Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
>
>Thanx Bi,
>
>My google search showed up HP, Dell, and Silicon Graphics. Also it would
>be an ongoing effort, so we are not really looking for intel lab…
>
>I was thinking if there are some who does cloans, just like ia32 PCs, also
>I am not sure if there is MotherBoard available, so that we can build it
>if needed.
>
>Yes you are right about HP, since they are active participant of this
>architecture…
>
>-prokash
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bi Chen [mailto:xxxxx@AppStream.com]
>Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:14 PM
>To: File Systems Developers
>Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
>
>I am not sure using it in Intel lab is your option. If you want to save $
>you must be local to whereever the lab is.
>
>Has anyone tired of the Dell dude guy. My view is don’t buy anything from
>Dell, even if it is a little bit cheaper. Dell contributes nothing to
>computer industry. Since when anyone see any technology developed from
>Dell that benefited the industry in general? Dell is no more than leaches
>and take advantage of others R&D and innovations. I would rather buy from
>HP since at least it has R&D lab that is contributing (the very IA64 EPIC
>itself and so many other things) and will continue to contribute to the
>industry.
>
>I don’t hold a single share of either HP or Dell.
>
>Bi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@zonelabs.com]
>Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
>To: File Systems Developers
>Subject: [ntfsd] IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
>Hi All,
>
>We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model and
>hp also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).
>
>Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …
>
>We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And
>it should be MS 64bit OS compatible …
>
>Thanx in adv
>prokash
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When you tested, have you used one of those from HP or DELL ?

If so, any recommendation, insight as to its performance etc…

-prokash

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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:53 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Admittedly I haven’t done it with any “down and dirty” drivers, but I have
tested quite a number of drivers on IA64. All but one compiled first time
and worked as expected. The exception only needed a small edit.

I’d hand that as a testament to the MS DDK guys in spending all that time
over the last few years ensuring such a compatible environment. Unless you
need to touch native assembler, it shouldn’t matter what the target
environment is, the DDK just builds it.

Right now, all my sources, kernel and user mode are truly single source for
32 and 64 bit platforms. I expect that if the next Platform SDK or DDK
includes an AMD64 build environment that I will still compile and run first
time out.

Of course there will be exceptions, but right now the only time I need
wonder what kind of chip is underneath me is in the install code so I pick
the right binaries.

Mark.

At 11:29 22/10/2002 -0700, Nicholas Ryan wrote:

“urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml” xmlns:o =
“urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office” xmlns:w =
“urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word” xmlns:st1 =
“urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags”>
Before investing that kind of cash I’d play wait-on-see. It’s looking to me
like IA64 is not going to make it in the marketplace. My bet is that the
market will coalesce around AMD’s 64-bit x86 compatible line and Intel will
be forced to match it with its not-so-secret Yamhill ‘Plan B’ chip. It would
certainly make our lives as driver developers that much easier. But who
asked me…

  • Nicholas Ryan

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com
mailto:xxxxx ] On Behalf Of Prokash Sinha
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:37 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
I just threw in some numbers, I don’t see much options I have !

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Burn [mailto:xxxxx@acm.org mailto:xxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:07 AM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I don’t think you will find a new machine in your price range,
if my memory serves me correctly Intel is charging close to
that for the chip.

Don Burn
Egenera, Inc
----- Original Message -----
From: Prokash Sinha mailto:xxxxx
To: File Systems Developers mailto:xxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

Thanx Bi,

My google search showed up HP, Dell, and Silicon Graphics. Also it would be
an ongoing effort, so we are not really looking for intel lab…

I was thinking if there are some who does cloans, just like ia32 PCs, also I
am not sure if there is MotherBoard available, so that we can build it if
needed.

Yes you are right about HP, since they are active participant of this
architecture…

-prokash

-----Original Message-----
From: Bi Chen [mailto:xxxxx@AppStream.com mailto:xxxxx]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:14 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] RE: IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please

I am not sure using it in Intel lab is your option. If you want to save $
you must be local to whereever the lab is.

Has anyone tired of the Dell dude guy. My view is don’t buy anything from
Dell, even if it is a little bit cheaper. Dell contributes nothing to
computer industry. Since when anyone see any technology developed from Dell
that benefited the industry in general? Dell is no more than leaches and
take advantage of others R&D and innovations. I would rather buy from HP
since at least it has R&D lab that is contributing (the very IA64 EPIC
itself and so many other things) and will continue to contribute to the
industry.

I don’t hold a single share of either HP or Dell.

Bi

-----Original Message-----
From: Prokash Sinha [mailto:xxxxx@zonelabs.com mailto:xxxxx
]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:59 PM
To: File Systems Developers
Subject: [ntfsd] IA64 - machine - Suggestion Please
Hi All,

We are looking for IA64 workstation. It seems like dell has one model and hp
also, but they are bit pricy ( around 7500 bucks !!!).

Could anyone pls suggest any model that we can get under 3000 bucks …

We just need the base station, other we can plug in along the way… And it
should be MS 64bit OS compatible …

Thanx in adv
prokash

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