Difference between Debug build OS and retail build OS with symblos

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Hi,

How does debug build OS helps over retails build OS with symbols.

Any information is helpful.

Thanks,
Kedar.

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Symbols have NOTHING to do with debug versus retail build. The debug
build of the OS has additional internal consistency checking (e.g,
ASSERT() is used throughout, parameters are validated more thoroughly,
with a goal of catching bugs early in the development cycle) but this is
a compile time difference (is DBG defined or not) and has nothing to do
with how the compiler and linker emit symbol information into the OBJ
and PDB files.

Another difference is that checked builds are built without
optimization, making debugging easier (the optimizer will eliminate
local variables, for example, which can be confusing when debugging -
and there are numerous other little details like how code is reorganized
with the optimizer). But again, this doesn’t change the fact they both
have PDB files with pertinent information contained within them.

Regards,

Tony

Tony Mason
Consulting Partner
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osr.com

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Hi,

How does debug build OS helps over retails build OS with symbols.

Any information is helpful.

Thanks,
Kedar.

Questions? First check the IFS FAQ at
https://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=17

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Take a look at
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/resources/MVP/xtremeMVP_giveup.mspx#EBAA for
one viewpoint on the checked build

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Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
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Take a look at
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/resources/MVP/xtremeMVP_giveup.mspx#EBAA for
one viewpoint on the checked build

Nice article. It reminded me the old story when a video driver from respectable vendor always crashed on checked build during boot. I filed a bug as you suggested and guess what. They told me they don’t support checked build and ignored the bug :slight_smile:

Best regards,

Michal Vodicka
UPEK, Inc.
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