Debugging over USB

Hi,

I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in this case?

Regards
Abhijit

Abhijit wrote:

I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial
port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in
this case?

WinDbg will reputedly work over USB V2 (though I have personally never
seen it done). It works only on USB V2, it requires a special cable,
and it MAY only work on certain USB cards.

I’d advise getting a firewire card,

Peter
OSR

Abhijit,

Both your computers are USB hosts. You cannot have two hosts on a USB bus,
unless you play some trick, like using a special cable such as this one (
USB Link Cable - Custom Sensors, Inc. ). The thing in the middle will act on
both computers as a network adapter.

Once this is done, you can use DbgMon to send the debug trace output over
that network. But you can't use WinDbg here.

Do you have a 1394 port on that laptop? Otherwise, I believe it is
impossible to debug that computer. Have you considered SoftIce?

Mat


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Subject: [ntdev] Debugging over USB

Hi,
?
I want to debug?my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial port,
but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in this case?
?
Regards
Abhijit

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Use WinDbg over 1394.

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Subject: [ntdev] Debugging over USB

Hi,

I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in this case?

Regards
Abhijit

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May be you can get a USB to Serial adapter

— Abhijit wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop
> (not having serial port, but has USB instead). How
> to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in this case?
>
> Regards
> Abhijit
> —
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> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
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Won’t work, the kernel code for serial debugging requires a standard legacy
serial port. As others have said, at present you may be able to get 1394 to
work, otherwise you are out of luck.


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> May be you can get a USB to Serial adapter
>
> — Abhijit wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop
> > (not having serial port, but has USB instead). How
> > to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in this case?
> >
> > Regards
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But having a USB to serial adapter won’t make your kernel debugger output on
the USB port.

Mat

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May be you can get a USB to Serial adapter

— Abhijit wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop
> (not having serial port, but has USB instead). How
> to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in this case?
>
> Regards
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That won’t work. The kernel requires serial port hw resources to do
serial debugging.

d

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May be you can get a USB to Serial adapter

— Abhijit wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop
> (not having serial port, but has USB instead). How
> to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in this case?
>
> Regards
> Abhijit
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The kernel debugger accesses the serial port’s I/O ports directly. It
doesn’t try to go through a driver, so serial over USB won’t be an
option.

I don’t suppose your laptop has 1394 in it - you can debug over 1394. I
don’t know if it will work over a 1394 card-bus controller, but it
might.

-p

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May be you can get a USB to Serial adapter

— Abhijit wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial
> port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in

> this case?
>
> Regards
> Abhijit
> —
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> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
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Buy a new laptop with either a serial port or a firewire port. It’s a
requirement.

=====================
Mark Roddy

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:28 PM
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Won’t work, the kernel code for serial debugging requires a standard legacy
serial port. As others have said, at present you may be able to get 1394 to
work, otherwise you are out of luck.


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>
> — Abhijit wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial
> > port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used
> > in this case?
> >
> > Regards
> > Abhijit
> > —
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Most docking stations have serail port. Check if there's one available for
your laptop.

Calvin Guan Software Engineer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Abhijit [mailto:xxxxx@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:32 AM
To: Windows System Software Devs Interest List
Subject: [ntdev] Debugging over USB

Hi,

I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial port,
but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in this case?

Regards
Abhijit

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1394 cardbus controllers work as long as the BIOS happens to set them up in
a way that can be easily discovered by the 1394 debugger code.


Jake Oshins
Windows Kernel Group

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“Peter Wieland” wrote in message
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The kernel debugger accesses the serial port’s I/O ports directly. It
doesn’t try to go through a driver, so serial over USB won’t be an
option.

I don’t suppose your laptop has 1394 in it - you can debug over 1394. I
don’t know if it will work over a 1394 card-bus controller, but it
might.

-p

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [ntdev] Debugging over USB

May be you can get a USB to Serial adapter

— Abhijit wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial
> port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in

> this case?
>
> Regards
> Abhijit
> —
> Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
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I might be missing something here, but I have a usb2serial cable connecting
to my laptop, and the kernel debugger works like a charm.

Ta

From: “Peter Wieland”
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>
>To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
>Subject: RE: [ntdev] Debugging over USB
>Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:36:05 -0700
>
>The kernel debugger accesses the serial port’s I/O ports directly. It
>doesn’t try to go through a driver, so serial over USB won’t be an
>option.
>
>I don’t suppose your laptop has 1394 in it - you can debug over 1394. I
>don’t know if it will work over a 1394 card-bus controller, but it
>might.
>
>-p
>
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>Subject: Re: [ntdev] Debugging over USB
>
>May be you can get a USB to Serial adapter
>
>— Abhijit wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial
> > port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used in
>
> > this case?
> >
> > Regards
> > Abhijit
> > —
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Windbg /kd will use any serial port b/c it talks to a handle and runs in
user mode. That means any real or virual serial port will work. The
machine being *debugged* requires real serial hardware.

d

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Subject: RE: [ntdev] Debugging over USB

I might be missing something here, but I have a usb2serial cable
connecting
to my laptop, and the kernel debugger works like a charm.

Ta

From: “Peter Wieland”
>Reply-To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
>
>To: “Windows System Software Devs Interest List”
>Subject: RE: [ntdev] Debugging over USB
>Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:36:05 -0700
>
>The kernel debugger accesses the serial port’s I/O ports directly. It
>doesn’t try to go through a driver, so serial over USB won’t be an
>option.
>
>I don’t suppose your laptop has 1394 in it - you can debug over 1394.
I
>don’t know if it will work over a 1394 card-bus controller, but it
>might.
>
>-p
>
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>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:24 PM
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>Subject: Re: [ntdev] Debugging over USB
>
>May be you can get a USB to Serial adapter
>
>— Abhijit wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial
> > port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used
in
>
> > this case?
> >
> > Regards
> > Abhijit
> > —
> > Questions? First check the Kernel Driver FAQ at
> > http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=256
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All new laptops known to me have a 1394 port.

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:41 PM
Subject: RE: [ntdev] Debugging over USB

> Buy a new laptop with either a serial port or a firewire port. It’s a
> requirement.
>
>
> =====================
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Burn [mailto:xxxxx@acm.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:28 PM
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> Subject: Re:[ntdev] Debugging over USB
>
> Won’t work, the kernel code for serial debugging requires a standard legacy
> serial port. As others have said, at present you may be able to get 1394 to
> work, otherwise you are out of luck.
>
>
> –
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> >
> > — Abhijit wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial
> > > port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used
> > > in this case?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Abhijit
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Maxim S. Shatskih wrote:

All new laptops known to me have a 1394 port.

(Oh, I just can’t resist: You must not know many new laptops then.
Consider the best selling laptop line from IBM, the Thinkpad T Series.
Most recent T-series laptop introduced: No 1394 connector. 1394
connections on laptops are FAR from ubiquitous. Pullleeezzz…)

I do have an USB2Serial, I know it worked with Active synch, and if I could
recall I worked with Windbg. Now I pulled it out of the rug, since I need to
debug again, will know soon if it works or not ( not looking at the usb
version(s) yet )

-pro

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Maxim S. Shatskih wrote:

All new laptops known to me have a 1394 port.

(Oh, I just can’t resist: You must not know many new laptops then.
Consider the best selling laptop line from IBM, the Thinkpad T Series.
Most recent T-series laptop introduced: No 1394 connector. 1394
connections on laptops are FAR from ubiquitous. Pullleeezzz…)


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Not to rub it in, but DS can debug over a TCP/IP connection.

Alberto.

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Buy a new laptop with either a serial port or a firewire port. It’s a
requirement.

=====================
Mark Roddy

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:28 PM
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Subject: Re:[ntdev] Debugging over USB

Won’t work, the kernel code for serial debugging requires a standard legacy
serial port. As others have said, at present you may be able to get 1394 to
work, otherwise you are out of luck.


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>
> — Abhijit wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to debug my driver installed on the laptop (not having serial
> > port, but has USB instead). How to achieve this? Can WinDbg be used
> > in this case?
> >
> > Regards
> > Abhijit
> > —
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Ouch, now I think it does not work, that is why I had to use an old laptop.
An easy, almost, would have been to check some sym files been downloaded
from sym server, to have a
first level verification, but it came from a repair shop, since then I did
not do debug using it.

Sorry for my “crapy thinking” thrown here …

-pro

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I do have an USB2Serial, I know it worked with Active synch, and if I could
recall I worked with Windbg. Now I pulled it out of the rug, since I need to
debug again, will know soon if it works or not ( not looking at the usb
version(s) yet )

-pro

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Maxim S. Shatskih wrote:

All new laptops known to me have a 1394 port.

(Oh, I just can’t resist: You must not know many new laptops then.
Consider the best selling laptop line from IBM, the Thinkpad T Series.
Most recent T-series laptop introduced: No 1394 connector. 1394
connections on laptops are FAR from ubiquitous. Pullleeezzz…)


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That is surely a convenience, but where is the beef ( GUI front end :).
Philips recently reported that a rollable (almost like photo print paper )
display device is on the making, and these days some of the laptops are
having 19" screen ( only on the width :). Windbg really helps on this
respect .

-pro

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Moreira, Alberto
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 7:34 AM
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Subject: RE: [ntdev] Debugging over USB

Not to rub it in, but DS can debug over a TCP/IP connection.

Alberto.

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[mailto:xxxxx@lists.osr.com]On Behalf Of Roddy, Mark
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [ntdev] Debugging over USB

Buy a new laptop with either a serial port or a firewire port. It’s a
requirement.

=====================
Mark Roddy

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From: Don Burn [mailto:xxxxx@acm.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:28 PM
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Subject: Re:[ntdev] Debugging over USB

Won’t work, the kernel code for serial debugging requires a standard legacy
serial port. As others have said, at present you may be able to get 1394 to
work, otherwise you are out of luck.


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> May be you can get a USB to Serial adapter
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