This one’s addressed to the disk driver gurus: if I have an old PII
motherboard and that motherboard barfs with a new 80Gb hard drive, is it a
feasible proposition to get rid of all IDE drives, install a 1394 drive and
card, and install and boot windows into it ? Thanks,
Alberto.
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> This one’s addressed to the disk driver gurus: if I have an old PII
> motherboard and that motherboard barfs with a new 80Gb hard drive, is it a
> feasible proposition to get rid of all IDE drives, install a 1394 drive
and
> card, and install and boot windows into it ? Thanks,
Only if the 1394 card has an int13 handler. You should know, however, that
every 1394 drive I’ve looked at (which is admittedly, very few) is an ATA
drive with a tailgate 1394->ATA bridge attached. So you have all the
limitations of ATA, overlaid with the limitations of 1394.
What, specifically is the “barf” on your 80 GB drive? If your hardware
isn’t broken, a BIOS upgrade is likely to fix it, if it’s available…
However, IIRC, the ATA adapters in PII generation chipsets were probably
Multi-Word DMA Mode 4 (16.7 MB/s burst) or (maybe) if you got one of the
last ones, Ultra-DMA 33. So you will probably get the best results by
adding a new PCI-IDE HBA. The vanilla ones cost about the same as a 1394
card, maybe less, and the performance and reliability will be better.
Phil
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Alberto,
I would spend 20-30 bucks on a new PCI-IDE controller card. I did this with
an old Pentium Pro system that would not recognize anything past 8.4 GB. I
disabled the motherboard IDE controller in the BIOS settings and plugged a
modern disk drive into the new controller. It works great and the computer
is noticably faster when running Windows 2000, IDE drives have come a long
way since this computer was state of the art.
Jim
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>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:15:28 -0500
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>This one’s addressed to the disk driver gurus: if I have an old PII
>motherboard and that motherboard barfs with a new 80Gb hard drive, is it a
>feasible proposition to get rid of all IDE drives, install a 1394 drive and
>card, and install and boot windows into it ? Thanks,
>
>
>Alberto.
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The issue is probably the motherboard Bios with its 8Gb boot partition
limitation. Assuming that there’s no upgraded Bios available, you’re
probably right that buying a separate ATA disk controller card is a more
sensible way to go than to move up to 1394. Thanks for the info !
Alberto.
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“Moreira, Alberto” wrote in message
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>
>
> This one’s addressed to the disk driver gurus: if I have an old PII
> motherboard and that motherboard barfs with a new 80Gb hard drive, is it a
> feasible proposition to get rid of all IDE drives, install a 1394 drive
and
> card, and install and boot windows into it ? Thanks,
Only if the 1394 card has an int13 handler. You should know, however, that
every 1394 drive I’ve looked at (which is admittedly, very few) is an ATA
drive with a tailgate 1394->ATA bridge attached. So you have all the
limitations of ATA, overlaid with the limitations of 1394.
What, specifically is the “barf” on your 80 GB drive? If your hardware
isn’t broken, a BIOS upgrade is likely to fix it, if it’s available…
However, IIRC, the ATA adapters in PII generation chipsets were probably
Multi-Word DMA Mode 4 (16.7 MB/s burst) or (maybe) if you got one of the
last ones, Ultra-DMA 33. So you will probably get the best results by
adding a new PCI-IDE HBA. The vanilla ones cost about the same as a 1394
card, maybe less, and the performance and reliability will be better.
Phil
–
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Seagate Technology, LLC
(720) 684-1842
As if I need to say it: Not speaking for Seagate.
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Thanks for the suggestion ! It makes sense.
Alberto.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:09 PM
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Alberto,
I would spend 20-30 bucks on a new PCI-IDE controller card. I did this with
an old Pentium Pro system that would not recognize anything past 8.4 GB. I
disabled the motherboard IDE controller in the BIOS settings and plugged a
modern disk drive into the new controller. It works great and the computer
is noticably faster when running Windows 2000, IDE drives have come a long
way since this computer was state of the art.
Jim
From: “Moreira, Alberto”
>Reply-To: “NT Developers Interest List”
>To: “NT Developers Interest List”
>Subject: [ntdev] Childish question on Firewire Drives
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:15:28 -0500
>
>
>This one’s addressed to the disk driver gurus: if I have an old PII
>motherboard and that motherboard barfs with a new 80Gb hard drive, is it a
>feasible proposition to get rid of all IDE drives, install a 1394 drive and
>card, and install and boot windows into it ? Thanks,
>
>
>Alberto.
>
>
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If this is a machine with a standard ATX style motherboard, why not spend
about $60 for a new motherboard? I realize it will cost a little, but for
about $200, you can have a new MB, new AMD CPU, & one memory chip. The
other option of buying a good EIDE controller is good, but not be as
compatible.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:32 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Re: Childish question on Firewire Drives
> Thanks for the suggestion ! It makes sense.
>
> Alberto.
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:09 PM
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> Subject: [ntdev] Re: Childish question on Firewire Drives
>
>
>
> Alberto,
>
> I would spend 20-30 bucks on a new PCI-IDE controller card. I did this
with
> an old Pentium Pro system that would not recognize anything past 8.4 GB. I
> disabled the motherboard IDE controller in the BIOS settings and plugged a
> modern disk drive into the new controller. It works great and the computer
> is noticably faster when running Windows 2000, IDE drives have come a long
> way since this computer was state of the art.
>
> Jim
>
> >From: “Moreira, Alberto”
> >Reply-To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> >To: “NT Developers Interest List”
> >Subject: [ntdev] Childish question on Firewire Drives
> >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:15:28 -0500
> >
> >
> >This one’s addressed to the disk driver gurus: if I have an old PII
> >motherboard and that motherboard barfs with a new 80Gb hard drive, is it
a
> >feasible proposition to get rid of all IDE drives, install a 1394 drive
and
> >card, and install and boot windows into it ? Thanks,
> >
> >
> >Alberto.
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> >
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Download the BIOS update from the vendor’s site. This can help.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: [ntdev] Childish question on Firewire Drives
>
> This one’s addressed to the disk driver gurus: if I have an old PII
> motherboard and that motherboard barfs with a new 80Gb hard drive,
is it a
> feasible proposition to get rid of all IDE drives, install a 1394
drive and
> card, and install and boot windows into it ? Thanks,
>
>
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